SNOW AND ICE 2016/2017

Weepsie

Sugarlumps wrote: »

If he had a genuine reason to stop, why not pull over to the side where there's plenty of room. It's akin to pulling up to a dead stop on the motorway instead of using the hard shoulder. I've been cycling the same the same route for the last eight years without incident.

Perhaps I should of given more space, due to the conditions. I wasn't riding his coattails. Nor was going I going to jam on the brakes either, causing myself damage.

Sorry, you're wrong here. Had you hit him, it would have been your fault. Why pull out to the side when there could be a cyclist in his blind spot too which IMO is more dangerous.

Anyway, Northwood in Santry was fairly Icy, but main roads grand. Cycle lanes sketchy in parts so gave myself more space. Left later, went slower. Took the CX bike too which helped. Estates around Drumcondra and Whitworth road had some black ice which could've seen me undone.

Noticeably fewer people out on bikes this morn, but I did leave 20 mins later than normal as I wanted it to thaw a bit more

Parchment

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

That's a hell of a generalisation to make. The other day while in a cycle lane and nothing in front of me, a car suddenly passed me and pulled into the lane, the slowed and stopped. As a result, I had to slam on to avoid hitting the car....should I have left more braking distance too?

I see it a lot on this forum - everything becomes an excuse to correct/chastise people be it a cyclist or car driver. Everyone is holier than thou and its not nice.

magicbastarder

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

That's a hell of a generalisation to make. The other day while in a cycle lane and nothing in front of me, a car suddenly passed me and pulled into the lane, the slowed and stopped. As a result, I had to slam on to avoid hitting the car....should I have left more braking distance too?

that's not the same situation. in the scenario detailed earlier, the car was already in front.

Weepsie

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

That's a hell of a generalisation to make. The other day while in a cycle lane and nothing in front of me, a car suddenly passed me and pulled into the lane, the slowed and stopped. As a result, I had to slam on to avoid hitting the car....should I have left more braking distance too?

decided for no reason to stop in the middle of Shelbourne road.

How is it a generalisation when the poster said this....

Weepsie

Parchment wrote: »

I see it a lot on this forum - everything becomes an excuse to correct/chastise people be it a cyclist or car driver. Everyone is holier than thou and its not nice.

Add Kaiser Sose here is now guilty of chastising someone as they hadn't bothered reading the post properly

tomasrojo

Took the kids to school in the bakfiets, with some misgivings. It was fine in the end, but the school run went from fifty-five minutes to one hour and twenty minutes because the second leg is through housing estates and there was undisturbed ice everywhere.

Sugarlumps

I didn't mean too cause a ruckus in this forum. I won't post in here again, sorry!

Kaisr Sose

It's conditions like this that make me leave the bike at home. I can control and have confidence in my cycling, but I can't control the fact that others will not adjust their driving to take account of the conditions. They drive everywhere like they are on an open, deserted road, the sky is blue, it's warm and the road is dry....

Planet X

Took a leisurely ride with CIE.

seamus

Totally wimped it this morning. Glad I did though, very slippery out there this morning and a lot of my commute now involves housing estates and small roads.

Kaisr Sose

Weepsie wrote: »

How is it a generalisation when the poster said this....

You were not there (and neither was I), so yes, it's a generalisation. Not worth arguing about though ...

Weepsie

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

You were not there (and neither was I), so yes, it's a generalisation. Not worth arguing about though ...

I read the post. It's detailed enough. Van stopped. Bike was behind him. Stopping distance are at least doubled in conditions like this morning. It's not a generalisation, it was an educated guess given the facts to hand.

Pinch Flat

Took the train this morning, estate paths and road was like an ice rink. I'm guessing the phoenix park would have been tricky. I'm on blood thinning meds at the moment, one of the side effects is uncontrolled bleeding from an injury :eek:. Not worth the risk.

magicbastarder

i'll get cracking on calculating how fast you could travel based on cycling with a power output of 200W.

https://what-if.xkcd.com/130/

CramCycle

Sugarlumps wrote: »

If he had a genuine reason to stop, why not pull over to the side where there's plenty of room. It's akin to pulling up to a dead stop on the motorway instead of using the hard shoulder. I've been cycling the same the same route for the last eight years without incident.

Possibly concerned about the road surface, maybe it was not easy for some unknown reason. Not having a go but what ever his reasons, he did have them.

Perhaps I should of given more space, due to the conditions. I wasn't riding his coattails. Nor was going I going to jam on the brakes either, causing myself damage.

And your dead right, regardless of my earlier post, it's not like any real damage was done, presumably both of you were going at a low enough speed. No one was hurt, he might think again before dropping anchor, hopefully take a better look around and vice versa, you might give a few extra meters space in bad weather.

Parchment wrote: »

I see it a lot on this forum - everything becomes an excuse to correct/chastise people be it a cyclist or car driver. Everyone is holier than thou and its not nice.

Not really, I have done far worse in my youth. I hit the side of a van when I was in my teens doing an overtake because despite the driver not indicating, it was a stupid place to overtake and I was going to fast on my bike. No damage done to the van and all settled on the spot. Same with a small VW polo, I was coming down Bird Avenue and he stopped suddenly and I was too close. Hit the brakes but I still hit his bumper and very nearly went over the roof of the car. I admitted fault and thankfully no damage or physical harm. It's not judgmental, it is just I have experience of making a similar mistake and in my opinion, blaming the driver, while a natural reaction, is a bit harsh. Maybe done it on purpose because he knew he would get the poster to hit him which is a whole other ball game but alas one that cannot be proven without admission I fear.

Sugarlumps wrote: »

I didn't mean too cause a ruckus in this forum. I won't post in here again, sorry!

Not really a ruckus, nice to have a talking point, it doesn't sound like too much came of it in the end anyway. Certainly wouldn't let that stop you posting, always good to get different views and stories on a forum like this.

cython

Took the train myself as well this morning, though to be honest due to iciness on the edge of platform 5 in Connolly I still incurred the same fate as I might have had I cycled by hitting the deck while changing trains. Fortunately the gap there was too narrow to drop down into, but still a bit sore after it. Conditions were deceptive as the rest of the platform was fine, but on the train side of the yellow line it was very slippery

terrydel

jon1981 wrote: »

Dropped a few psi on the aul 4 seasons before i set off this morning. The housing estate was abit icy around killester, was grand on the main roads into town.

Just took my time, read ahead for any of the shiny black stuff

Still alot of dare devils on BSO's hugging the kerb...

Whats a BSO?

tomasrojo

terrydel wrote: »

Whats a BSO?

Low-quality bike: "bike-shaped object"

CramCycle

terrydel wrote: »

Whats a BSO?

Bike Shaped Object. Generally refers to very cheap bikes from Argos or halfords that cost under 150euro, have a giant steel spring somewhere in the frame for no reason and weigh something close to a bag of coal or cement in weight as a minimum.

buffalo

cython wrote: »

Took the train myself as well this morning, though to be honest due to iciness on the edge of platform 5 in Connolly I still incurred the same fate as I might have had I cycled by hitting the deck while changing trains. Fortunately the gap there was too narrow to drop down into, but still a bit sore after it. Conditions were deceptive as the rest of the platform was fine, but on the train side of the yellow line it was very slippery

http://www.injury-solicitors.ie/injury-solicitors-news/25-000-compensation-for-falling-between-a-train-and-platform/


...just sayin'.

tomasrojo

CramCycle wrote: »

Bike Shaped Object. Generally refers to very cheap bikes from Argos or halfords that cost under 150euro, have a giant steel spring somewhere in the frame for no reason and weigh something close to a bag of coal or cement in weight as a minimum.

The spring in the middle is a perennial favourite! Apollo seems to be a brand that specialises in BSOs.

It's sometimes regarded as a snobby term, but not all cheap bikes are BSOs. Similarly, not all bikes with old-fashioned components, such as screw-on freewheels, are BSOs. It's really a bike that doesn't work reliably as a bike without constant maintenance (and usually not even then).

magicbastarder

tomasrojo wrote: »

It's sometimes regarded as a snobby term, but not all cheap bikes are BSOs.

the cheap bike is possibly one of humanity's greatest inventions.

tomasrojo

Plenty of cheap bikes (acutually, genuine BSOs) helping people get by in California:

http://www.bicycling.com/culture/advocacy/how-low-income-cyclists-go-unnoticed?utm_content=buffer37ed2&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Danbo!

Left before 6.30am and had to walk out of the estate, was like glass. Some of the main roads were ropey as it was still so early and -2C, but lots and lots of patience from drivers with me plodding along in the middle of the road away from the kerb, which was nice.

Unrelated, I saw a truck at the canal, The Barge junction, indicating left to turn towards town. It was in the right hand lane as it needed the space to make the turn. But, it had a recording playing from a speaker mounted back left "Caution, this truck is turning left". Thought it was great. 4 Cyclists with over-ear headphones sitting unphased along side it tho

Fuzzytrooper

Anyone try the Royal Canal run in Dublin today?

buffalo

Fuzzytrooper wrote: »

Anyone try the Royal Canal run in Dublin today?

I cycled from the new bridge at Ashtown to Phibsboro, was fine by 9am. The missus did the same at 8am and survived. Only real hazard was a sheet of ice just beside Des Kelly's at Phibsboro.

CramCycle

Fuzzytrooper wrote: »

Anyone try the Royal Canal run in Dublin today?

I didn't think that it would be cold enough to walk on the canal yet, certainly wouldn't try cycling :pac:

Wishbone Ash

Fuzzytrooper wrote: »

Anyone try the Royal Canal run in Dublin today?

CramCycle wrote: »

I didn't think that it would be cold enough to walk on the canal yet, certainly wouldn't try cycling :pac:

He/she wants to run on it, not cycle!

Seaswimmer

Deansgrange to Santry was fine on the main roads. Bit of ice/frost around Santry but nothing major. Industrial estate was a bit icy but again it was safe once you took it easy

This was my first frosty/icy run on Tannus 23c tyres but they seem fine. No worse than anything else I have had over the years.

jon1981

Seaswimmer wrote: »

Deansgrange to Santry was fine on the main roads. Bit of ice/frost around Santry but nothing major. Industrial estate was a bit icy but again it was safe once you took it easy

This was my first frosty/icy run on Tannus 23c tyres but they seem fine. No worse than anything else I have had over the years.

That's a monster commute, fair play!