GW 16 transfers

FHFC

FHFC wrote: »

Forgetting about non FPL tactics for now, its still the case that for now Firmino is a pretty dud Fantasy asset as things stand. It seems unlikely that will change as Origi is scoring goals up front. Is holding Firmino not flogging a dead horse a bit, with the way the team is set up and likely to remain set up till Coutinho returns.

Non FPL ?

Firmino is probably Klopp's first name on the teamsheet followed by Lallana.

So worst case scenario you have a midfielder playing one of the front 3 roles guaranteed a start.

Origi seemed to be a fav of Klopp's early in his reign and is currently scoring goals. My biggest mistake was not bringing Origi in sooner.

I didn't piece the puzzle together quick enough when Coutinho got injured. By the time Coutinho gets back then Mane will be gone. I think Origi stays in the team now until Coutinho, Mane and Firmino are all available and even then, if he keeps scoring, he could be a mainstay by seasons end.

manual_man

Firmino to Payet as planned (damn you Payet for scoring against 'pool and getting in to people's minds). No points hit (for a change). Seriously tempted to Payet(C) but will probably do Kane(C) against hapless Hull

COH

Worth doing a -8 for the following? Have seen red arrows the past couple gameweeks.

Lovren > Alonso
Pedro > Payet
Deeney > Origi

Or could do Pedro > Spurs mid and upgrade Deeney to Benteke or someone <8mil

caviardreams

Gonna take a punt on Jones - finally getting rid of Kingsley!

bantee

Cartman78 wrote: »

My day long pontificating has come down to Payet vs Pogba (to replace Firmino).

Is bringing in the world's most expensive player considered a punt?? ;-)

Not convinced by Payet this season, and Pogba is almost 1m cheaper. ManU are surely going to seriously batter someone soon and have easy looking fixtures from now until February (apart from Liverpool).

Any United fans/watchers care to advise me? Have really only seen them on motd

I'm a United fan and watched all the recent games, he's very busy in each without much end product, has a chance of a goal or assist but not too regularly (also hit the post from a great free kick v Spurs).
When Mhkytarian is back after this GW, he's a much better option if you're looking at a United midfielder. He plays to the right of a front 3 and looks to have serious assist/goal potential.
Pogba plays in MF and won't have as big returns IMO, so if it's between him and Payet for you, I'd go Payet.

How Soon Is Now

caviardreams wrote: »

Gonna take a punt on Jones - finally getting rid of Kingsley!

Ya know that might be a great idea!!

Looked very good over last few games and they have some what handier fixtures coming up. to.

Plus hes only 4.7. Could be worth it as he looks the type of player Jose likes in there.

manual_man

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Ya know that might be a great idea!!

Looked very good over last few games and they have some what handier fixtures coming up. to.

Plus hes only 4.7. Could be worth it as he looks the type of player Jose likes in there.

+1 though a caveat he has a history of breaking down and getting injured so if getting him in look to have a full compliment of playing defenders (especially useful over the festive fixture period anyway)

DJIMI TRARORE

Mustafi out,Jones in

How Soon Is Now

Is Zaha going to be playing in ACON in January?

Potential Underachiever

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Is Zaha going to be playing in ACON in January?

A quick wiki tells me this.....On 27 November 2016, the Ivorian Football Federation confirmed that Zaha had sent correspondence to FIFA to switch his international football allegiance from England to the Ivory Coast. In response to this development, Gareth Southgate indicated he would try to persuade Zaha from changing allegiance due to his consistent club form

I guess it's still unclear, though it does look likely

iroced

Eriksen or Alli or Payet or Antonio? Or trust Firmino again?...

iroced

iroced wrote: »

Eriksen or Alli or Payet or Antonio? Or trust Firmino again?...

I wouldn't sell Firmino yet but I did sell Walcott for Alli.

Scorpion Sting

Williams out for Phil Jones.

2nd Row Donkey

This will be my next FT.

Hardly worth a - 4 this week is it, do you think?

mectavba

Firmino & Pedro > Payet & Antonio done. I already have Walker and Kane, so all my eggs are in a Spurs/Hammers shaped basket.

I'm in a money league which finishes on the first weekend of Jan...need a differential or two to make up some ground...I'm hoping West Ham will give me that.

AnneFrank

on pogba, i think he is getting close to banging in a couple of goals, utd are turning a corner for sure.
Harry Kane for for C

caviardreams

manual_man wrote: »

+1 though a caveat he has a history of breaking down and getting injured so if getting him in look to have a full compliment of playing defenders (especially useful over the festive fixture period anyway)

Yeah, that was my thinking - could see him rested for the early new year game for example. But he should start more than Kingsley hopefully!

The injury threat is a BIG worry with Jones, though he has actually started 7 games I think now which is a decent spell for him so fingers crossed.

I think Jones' attitude in stepping up/coming in with no prep when United were having an injury crisis in defence will have done him the world of good in Jose's eyes and he might stick by him over Smalling if he stays fit.

NabyLadistheman

Think I am going to get in Rose for Williams. Leaves me with 3 Spurs & some nice fixtures

FHFC

I've had a look again at a trademark FHFC ridiculously top heavy team with Ibra, Costa and Kane up front, and with Lallana as Liverpool mid enabler, and Pedro as Chelsea mid enabler it doesn't look half bad.

3 transfers away, so my well bank it and do that next week. Or would Firmino to Lallana this week be likely to see a gain?

FHFC

FHFC wrote: »

I've had a look again at a trademark FHFC ridiculously top heavy team with Ibra, Costa and Kane up front, and with Lallana as Liverpool mid enabler, and Pedro as Chelsea mid enabler it doesn't look half bad.

3 transfers away, so my well bank it and do that next week. Or would Firmino to Lallana this week be likely to see a gain?

I'd be careful with Lallana as he's played 30 and then 90 minutes coming back from injury.

He might not get 90 in next 2 matches. In fact I've just had a look at his minutes all season. Only played 90 on 5 occasions. I think he's looking at a few 70 minute spots over the next few games especially because of recent injury.

COH

Deeney (FINALLY) and Fletcher out for a -4 ... Alli and Carroll in

I hate Andy Carroll, fully expect him to burn me, but red arrows the past couple of gameweeks so time to start taking some risks

raiders11

raiders11 wrote: »

Capoue to Antonio,

Firmino gets another chance...

No, he doesn't....swapped him for Eriksen last night, so -4 hit and am away now til 9pm, thank God, will be no more tinkering

km79

Isn't Antonio on 4 bookings ?

manual_man

km79 wrote: »

Isn't Antonio on 4 bookings ?

He is yeah

Father Hernandez

Firmino, should he stay or should he go?

If he goes for who, Eriksen, Alli or Payet?

West Ham and Spurs have two nice fixtures coming up

caviardreams

km79 wrote: »

Isn't Antonio on 4 bookings ?

If Costa has taught us anything.....

PARlance

Mané & Pedro out for KDB & Lallana

Oh lord save us!

PARlance

PARlance wrote: »

Mané & Pedro out for KDB & Lallana

Oh lord save us!

The fplord works in mysterious ways... went back into team and hadn't confirmed.

So did
Mané, Pedro, (my beloved) Benteke to
KDB, Philips, Vardy

Let's get this party started. Up to 490k from 1.3M 3 weeks ago and this move will either see me plummet again or push on.

El festino

Considering Firmino and Can out - Alli or Eriksen and Antonio in.
Feels a bit knee jerk though but unless a change of formation tomorrow night, I can see Firmino struggling again.

Cantona's Collars

Tempted to bank my transfer,Mata was for the chop but now Mkhitaryan is out I reckon Mata will play.

The other choice if I use a transfer is Pedro to Antonio,the only Spurs mid I can afford is Son.

The real mccoy 91

At the moment have a front 7 of moses payet mane sanchez with Costa benteke and nacho up front had to dump cech for this week's free transfer half thinking of getting kane and siggy in for sanchez and benteke for the weekend

Green&Red

zerks wrote: »

Tempted to bank my transfer,Mata was for the chop but now Mkhitaryan is out I reckon Mata will play.

The other choice if I use a transfer is Pedro to Antonio,the only Spurs mid I can afford is Son.

I would keep Mata

Green&Red

Has anyone else considered Randolph?
Looks like he'll be enabling my Firmino->Payet transfer

manual_man

Green&Red wrote: »

Has anyone else considered Randolph?
Looks like he'll be enabling my Firmino->Payet transfer

Didn't he make a howler for one of the Liverpool goals in the last game?

Lucas Hood

manual_man wrote: »

Didn't he make a howler for one of the Liverpool goals in the last game?

Redeemed himself with this
https://streamable.com/v3th

Rikand

manual_man wrote: »

Didn't he make a howler for one of the Liverpool goals in the last game?

A misjudgment really but he pulled out a worldy of a save to stop henderbus later in the game

manual_man

I remember that save alright :mad: Would be pretty harsh if he was dropped but you never know, I kind of expect Adrian to regain the number one jersey at some stage anyway

Dearg81

Does everyone getting Jones in know that Bailly is fit again? Mourinho has said he's going to be rotating the 3 centre backs so I think Valencia might be a better bet after this week if you have the funds.

http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/mourinho-man-utd-will-manage-jones-rojo-bailly-in-two-centre-back-roles-4159158

Scorpion Sting

Dearg81 wrote: »

Does everyone getting Jones in know that Bailly is fit again? Mourinho has said he's going to be rotating the 3 centre backs so I think Valencia might be a better bet after this week if you have the funds.

http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/mourinho-man-utd-will-manage-jones-rojo-bailly-in-two-centre-back-roles-4159158

Ah feck, not what I wanted to see. That's bad enough but my defence is cheap as chips and full of injury prone players like Jones, Evans and Friend. The festive period could be hell for my backline. I was going to get Danny Rose in but someone on FFS said he might be rested for one of the upcoming games which put me off him.

Dearg81

Scorpion Sting wrote: »

Ah feck, not what I wanted to see. That's bad enough but my defence is cheap as chips and full of injury prone players like Jones, Evans and Friend. The festive period could be hell for my backline. I was going to get Danny Rose in but someone on FFS said he might be rested for one of the upcoming games which put me off him.

Yea Spurs will almost definitely rotate their full backs and it's usually for the easier fixtures so I went with Alderweireld instead. I'd say Jones will probably only be rested for 1 match given his good form so it could still work out for you.

AnneFrank

jones is a cert to start lads he hasn't made one mistake, either has rojo. Bailly is off in january aswell so will only play if one of the others makes a mistake. Think about it, Jones is Mourinho's John Terry.Delighted for the chap he's got a chance at last

2nd Row Donkey

Not that many were considering him but dembele is out of the match against Hull... may have a knock on effect on the role of Alli/Erikson and Son.

patmac

Is Milner to Antonio for -4 a bit mad? I could also do Mane or Hazard to Payet instead.

Ziegler1988

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

Not that many were considering him but dembele is out of the match against Hull... may have a knock on effect on the role of Alli/Erikson and Son.

Would Winks come in straight swap? Will be a test of the "Dembele Theory" on FFS that Kane struggles withouth him

Trimm Trabb

I think selling Firmino may be a mistake - this is probably his worst run in 18 months - don't think it will be long before he is back among the points.

FHFC

Green&Red wrote: »

Has anyone else considered Randolph?
Looks like he'll be enabling my Firmino->Payet transfer

Have been considering him for a while, just havn't had time or reason to make the move. He rotates quite well with Pickford for those that have him already and gives 2 keepers for 8.4 if you got Pickford at 4.0

He's good for save points and West Ham defence should improve.

Randolph is actually in the FFS Scout picks this week, which is kinda odd!!

2nd Row Donkey

Ziegler1988 wrote:

Would Winks come in straight swap? Will be a test of the "Dembele Theory" on FFS that Kane struggles withouth him

Id expect so. Unless Dier comes back into mid field alongside Wanyama but that would be a very defensive set up against Hull at home.

Inspector Coptoor

Vardy and Zaha in for Hazard and Anichibe.

Armband for Vardy.

Front 7 of
Siggy
Sanchez
Marney
Zaha
Vardy
Lukaku
Ibra

km79

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

Vardy and Zaha in for Hazard and Anichibe.

Armband for Vardy.

Front 7 of
Siggy
Sanchez
Marney
Zaha
Vardy
Lukaku
Ibra

no Chelsea ?????

Fant11

Suarezistheman wrote: »

Think I am going to get in Rose for Williams. Leaves me with 3 Spurs & some nice fixtures

Word of warning for Spurs full backs this week; reckon poch will rotate at least one of them for either match this week. Would hold off bringing rose in till sat.