Liverpool V West Ham 4:30 Sky S1 & Internet.

TitianGerm

murpho999 wrote: »

A one on one, attacker is always favourite as he has the options and can make the keeper react.

People are just knee jerking reacting and having a go at Karius as it's easy to do so whilst ignore other errors that put him in that situation in the first place.

Look over my posts regarding Karius and you'll see no knee jerk reaction.

All I'm saying in relation to the second is come and commit or stay on your line. Karius came half way and hesitated.

Liam O

Really not sure what Matip was at for the second there. Was he trying to backheel it?

Dirty Dingus McGee

I think Karius could have done better for both goals.

The free kick wasn't right in the corner and at a savable height and he should have stood up better for the second goal.

shamrock55

1 up after 5 mins and been shocking since,learned **** all from last wkend,that trip to barce has certainly worked hasn't it,FIRMINHO,mane and origi have been rubbish in fact FIRMINHO has been ****e for quite a few games now

noodler

Christ.

I couldn't personally blame Marius for the second.

Well be doing well to win this now tho.

Christ.

martyos121

razorblunt wrote: »

Congrats on the worst post so far.

I didn't see an awful lot wrong with his post. Bit of hyperbole sure, but it's a valid point. Karius doesn't have the tools to be a solid PL keeper, that's abundantly clear already. He's also showing no signs of improving, instead he's going the other way.

Vicxas

Passing has been poor all half

Utopia Parkway

Even though Mignolet is not the long term answer in goal he actually does make saves in between the odd mistake. Just a better option right now.

Hammer Archer

Jaysus Antonio got one and didn't use his head!!!
We're gonna screw it up Pool fans so no need to panic.

corwill

Augeo wrote: »

He is in central areas plenty today.
Klopp doesn't mandate wide players to stay on the wing.

He's simply off form IMO but as with any striker a goal is never far off.

But getting into those central areas from a start out wide seems not to suit him. We've seen it in enough games now that I think it's a factor with him. It's up to him to cope better with it, rather than everyone else having to accommodate this limitation of his.

Fromvert

razorblunt wrote: »

Congrats on the worst post so far.

It's obviously exaggerated but has he ever saved us, where you think that was a good save?

Just give me something, anything, to show he might have it.

Our front 3 have goals in them. We could easily score 2+ in the second half .... could concede more 2 unfortunately.

Our defense is as bad as ever IMO, 6 conceded in last 3 halves of PL football against teams not far from relegation.

fyfe79

martyos121 wrote: »

I didn't see an awful lot wrong with his post. Bit of hyperbole sure, but it's a valid point. Karius doesn't have the tools to be a solid PL keeper, that's abundantly clear already. He's also showing no signs of improving, instead he's going the other way.

As someone said, even when DeGea was making errors in his first season, he was at least making saves either side of those mistakes. Karius is just leaving everything in. Not everything is his fault, but a few saves are to be expected even when it isn't his fault. I could leave everything in for 20 grand (or whatever) a week, no bother.

mada999

shamrock55 wrote: »

1 up after 5 mins and been shocking since,learned **** all from last wkend,that trip to barce has certainly worked hasn't it,FIRMINHO,mane and origi have been rubbish in fact FIRMINHO has been ****e for quite a few games now

it's my fault i have him in my FF for the last 5 weeks or so

shamrock55

That trip to barce has worked wonders for us

LuckyLloyd

Karius isn't good enough, bottom line. We can get into the details of the second goal till the cows come home, but the macro level reality is that the opposition has to get very few quality shots on target to score goals - at least, they have to get relatively far fewer than we do. Additionally, that has to be creating confidence issues for the defenders infront of him.

corwill

corwill wrote: »

But getting into those central areas from a start out wide seems not to suit him. We've seen it in enough games now that I think it's a factor with him. It's up to him to cope better with it, rather than everyone else having to accommodate this limitation of his.

You are correct.
Lots of our players play slightly out of position in Klopp's team. I reckon firmino is just a tad off form though. He did tremendously well for first quarter of season, unrealistic to expect that to continue all season.

Coutinho missing is big factor too perhaps.

larrymiller

What's wrong with lovren?

shamrock55

This is a massive half now

Charlie19

Origi and Firmino very quiet today.

martyos121

Averigi to the rescue.

BorneTobyWilde

YES YES YES YES !!!
YES
YES
YES !!!!!!

LuckyLloyd

That's a dream start to the half anyway.

Its a real battle of 2 goalkeepers

noodler

Feel bad for Randolph but thank god.

murpho999

Somebody putting keepers off in that end.

larrymiller

larrymiller wrote: »

What's wrong with lovren?

Who knows.
Thankfully it's not Lucas who came on anyway.

Great finish from origi. Over average return lately from him.

Hammer Archer

Ffs Randolph!

shamrock55

Well well game on

LuckyGent88

Awful mistake from Randolf. More goals to come in this game for definite.

murpho999

We need to keep this intensity up for 45 minutes.

blueser

Any of you guys interested in putting in bid for Claudio Bravo?

martyos121

Klopp's team talks have clearly improved massively since the EL final.

corwill

blueser wrote: »

Any of you guys interested in putting in bid for Claudio Bravo?

I hear we're scouting Abu Hamza.

Minderbinder

Randolph is a disaster waiting to happen. Don't think he has the required quality to play consistently in the PL. Remember he left in a shocker against United last season too.

Utopia Parkway

Not a vintage weekend for goalkeepers.

BorneTobyWilde

Randolph the red gloved keeper
Has a very shiny goal
And if you ever saw it
You would even say it glowed
Then one balmy Sunday Eve
Liverpool came to play
Randolph with your goal so bright..
..won't you let 4 in tonight

Then all the other keepers
Laughed at him with glee
Randolph the red gloved keeper
You'll go down in history

Rayne Wooney

It's very lazy the De Gea comparisons, he showed glimpses of being special even though he was very suspect under crosses.

Karius is terrible full stop

Utopia Parkway

Carroll coming on for his inevitable headed goal.

BorneTobyWilde

Great carrol is coming on

Can see headlines tomorrow

''Christmas Carroll For Slaven ''

Faith could be in Carrolls side here..

Liam O

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

It's very lazy the De Gea comparisons, he showed glimpses of being special even though he was very suspect under crosses.

Karius is terrible full stop

I don't remember all of the missed saves from De Gea back then too. Even being much younger than Karius.

mada999

we waste a fierce lot of chances in fairness

mada999

we need to get 3pts here big time...

mada999

Origi fierce greedy....

murpho999

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

It's very lazy the De Gea comparisons, he showed glimpses of being special even though he was very suspect under crosses.

Karius is terrible full stop

I thought all Liverpool players, past and present are terrible?

murpho999

mada999 wrote: »

Origi fierce greedy....

He's a striker.

BorneTobyWilde

what a goal that would ahve been !!!

Mars Bar

That's a fantastic save

livinginkorea

Some shot

ollie1

Incredible save by Randolph