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Have you ever used any "illegal" narcotics?

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  • #52
    Commotion Ocean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Commotion Ocean


    Shocking that almost 14% of users consider drug users to be scum.


  • #53
    learn_more
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭learn_more


    dfeo wrote: »
    Shocking that almost 14% of users consider drug users to be scum.

    Your right. I find that attitude totally bazaar.

    For those that voted 'scum' did you really mean it and if so can you tell us why?


  • #54
    Stasi 2.0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 295 ✭✭Stasi 2.0


    Most of the drugs on the O/P's list are not "narcotics". Its one of the most misused terms about.
    twowheelsonly wrote: »
    Cannabis is a gateway drug no matter what you think.
    Ask any addict what the first drug they ever took was and the answer for 99.99999% will be .

    Tobacco or maybe alcohol
    twowheelsonly wrote: »
    On the second point, Heroin is actually probably a safer drug than Ecstasy - subject to it not being cut with poisonous substances. Ecstasy is far from safe. It's a man made .

    Heroin is just as "man made" as MDMA both are synthetic compounds derived from naturally occurring precursors. In any case "natural" does not equate with being somehow less harmful. It is true that (addictiveness and risk of overdose aside) pure heroin is fairly benign but outside of a medical/pharmaceutical setting pure heroin doesn't exist anywhere this side of Helmand province.
    Zaph wrote: »
    So you're saying that a heroin or crack addict will be able to consistently function at a level where they could hold down a well enough paying job to fund their habit?.


    Youd be surprised. -Not saying that its the case in the majority of instances but it does happen.


  • #55
    Commotion Ocean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Commotion Ocean


    learn_more wrote: »
    Your right. I find that attitude totally bazaar.

    For those that voted 'scum' did you really mean it and if so can you tell us why?

    Do you know what else I find bazzar?

    Flea markets in the Middle East.


  • #56
    Vic_08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    Zaph wrote: »
    Even if their narcotic of choice was legal, the habit still has to be funded. Sure you might have some who somehow manage to hold down a job for a while, but being a habitual drug user and gainful employment generally don't go hand in hand and so it's inevitable that they will eventually resort to crime. That has nothing at all to do with the drugs themselves being illegal.

    You could easily fund a heroin habit off the dole if it were legally supplied through legitimate sources, it is a cheap drug to produce.

    The symptoms of illegal drug supply and use are far more damaging to society at large. The entire chain from users committing crimes to fund their habit through criminal gangs to entire countries destroyed by cartels producing and distributing the stuff.

    It would be cheaper and less destructive for substance abuse to be decriminalised and provide a controlled provision of addictive and harmful drugs to addicts at a cost low enough to make criminal distribution unprofitable.

    The war on drugs is just a pointless clusterfuk that developed countries are funding both sides of while ignoring the millions of lives across the globe that are being destroyed in the process.


  • #57
    Jerome77
    Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Jerome77


    I have been clean off all drugs eight years. Weed did more damage to me than smack ever did.


  • #58
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,325 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    I have tried both to no effect. Think I must be just be naturally stoned. :-)

    The problem with weed is that so many strains have completely different effect.

    It's like buying alcohol but not knowing if you're ordering a vodka red bull or a shot of beer.

    If you could walk into one of the weed shops in the US they have strains for everything. Get something that relaxes you but keeps your head clear. Get something that makes you giggly. Or philosophical. Here it's just random.


  • #59
    Vic_08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    twowheelsonly wrote: »
    Cannabis is a gateway drug no matter what you think.
    Ask any addict what the first drug they ever took was and the answer for 99.99999% will be...........

    Crap.

    In the US the biggest source of new heroin users is now people who got addicted to legally prescribed painkillers. Once the legal supply dries up and the cost gets too high they end up turning to heroin.


    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/29/health/gupta-unintended-consequences/


  • #60
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Thread title reminds me of...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW8OkSJvhvE


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