Londonderry

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly

I had cause to visit Londonderry once and found the history and the intact walls fascinating. However, the natives appeared as inbred scavengers. It's as if the entire place has been used as a sink estate.

Who is to blame for this?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

This is the worst attempt at trolling in the whole of 2016.

deco nate

Never heard of it, but I've been up north to derry a few times. Twas grand.. .

Ferrari3600

Is Roger Mellie Peter Hitchens or perhaps AA Gill has risen from the dead.

Jayop

I think the official name is Derry-Londonderry

me_irl

Ah, the 007 of counties.

Omackeral

The first six letters are silent OP, according to Dara O' Brien... or LondonDara, as he's known in some places.

judeboy101

Hugh Mungus wrote: »

This is the worst attempt at trolling in the whole of 2016.

You obviously haven't paid attention to the winner of the US presidential elections twitter account.

Omackeral

Jayop wrote: »

I think the official name is Derry-Londonderry

Derry-Londonderry-Doire-Stroke City

The Backwards Man

The Maiden City, finest city in the whole of Ireland.
Or the UK if that's what floats your boat.

darkpagandeath

Never really got this. Any idea how many Liverpools and such like are around the world. New England in the USA they seem to have not a care.

RayM

I like referring to it as 'Londonderry', just to see if people are petty enough to correct me.

hairyprincess

Hard to beat for the shopping

darkpagandeath

RayM wrote: »

I like referring to it as 'Londonderry', just to see if people are petty enough to correct me.

I hear some of the lads in the MU jerseys get fierce up tight about it.

Skommando

There majority of Derry is Catholic, and therefore pretty neglected and badly treated by those in power over the years, to their own determent.
For good reason, the Civil rights movement was at its strongest there, until eventually hijacked by the provos.

Richard Hillman

Derry-Londonderry is a dive. Excessively run down with nobody from police or the council wanting to enter large parts of the City.

The Backwards Man

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Derry-Londonderry is a dive. Excessively run down with nobody from police or the council wanting to enter large parts of the City.

Bollocks

osarusan

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Bollocks

Brandywell area is not safe on match nights. A few supporters' club busses have had a window or two smashed in.

darkpagandeath

osarusan wrote: »

Brandywell area is not safe on match nights. A few supporters' club busses have had a window or two smashed in.

Would that not be true of Scotland though in some areas when Celtic and rangers play.

boardsuser1

osarusan wrote: »

Brandywell area is not safe on match nights. A few supporters' club busses have had a window or two smashed in.

You've obviously never been to Dundalk's home games.

J Mysterio

RayM wrote: »

I like referring to it as 'Londonderry', just to see if people are petty enough to correct me.

It's not petty to be correct

Skommando

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Derry-Londonderry is a dive. Excessively run down with nobody from police or the council wanting to enter large parts of the City.

what planet do you people make these stories up on ?

For a small Island, you really have no clue what happens a few hours up the road do you ?

Derry was European city of Culture in 2013, hosts the tall ships race every year, and has hosted Fleadh Cheoil na hÉireann recently as well.

biko

I had cause to visit Londondublin once and found the history and the intact walls fascinating.
However, the natives appeared as inbred scavengers.

Skommando

biko wrote: »

However, the natives appeared as inbred scavengers.

I'm afraid that opinion reveals you to be exactly what you are accusing others of.

schizo1014

RayM wrote: »

I like referring to it as 'Londonderry', just to see if people are petty enough to correct me.

That's fairly petty in itself

J Mysterio

biko wrote: »

I had cause to visit Londondublin once and found the history and the intact walls fascinating.
However, the natives appeared as inbred scavengers.

You should take the Dort to Queenstown.

biko

Skommando wrote: »

I'm afraid that opinion reveals you to be exactly what you are accusing others of.

I just repeated what OP said

road_high

Visited Derry on a very wet miserable September day a few years ago and to be honest I was actually taken aback about how deprived it and the people appeared. There was definitely a very working class element, id say there must be a huge proportion on disability. Struggled to find anywhere nice lunch for lunch (it was raining). Eventually had pizza on plastic trays in the shopping centre. TBH I said my own little city of Kilkenny was streets ahead in terms of being a nice place to visit.
It's full of bookies, pawn shops, pound shops - not a great combination.
I'd love to go back though as I feel missed a lot of it or something.

Richard Hillman

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Would that not be true of Scotland though in some areas when Celtic and rangers play.

And they are kips too.

The Brandywell area of Derry-Londonderry is notoriously bad for attacking any group of fans. And it's not Derry fans, it's the locals that don't take kindly to outsiders.

The PSNI can not protect people going into the area because they won't go in at night and the place is completely run down because nobody from the council go in either

Skommando

biko wrote: »

I just repeated what OP said

Are you not capable of an independent opinion ?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Reads like a Gerald of Wales diary entry.

DrPhilG

I live in Donegal and work in Derry and I don't know what you're all talking about.

Of course it has its crap areas but its far from the hell hole some of you think it is. No better or worse than any city.

biko

Derry did have the largest gathering of Father Christmases once back in 2007

osarusan

KC161 wrote: »

You've obviously never been to Dundalk's home games.

Been there a good few times with Limerick.

Never had a problem myself, but Dundalk and Limerick have a good relationship since the Colin Scanlon goal.

But i have heard that there has been aggro at times.

Not sure what that (or matches in Scotland) has to do with the Brandywell though.

magentis

road_high wrote: »

Visited Derry on a very wet miserable September day a few years ago and to be honest I was actually taken aback about how deprived it and the people appeared. There was definitely a very working class element, id say there must be a huge proportion on disability. Struggled to find anywhere nice lunch for lunch (it was raining). Eventually had pizza on plastic trays in the shopping centre. TBH I said my own little city of Kilkenny was streets ahead in terms of being a nice place to visit.
It's full of bookies, pawn shops, pound shops - not a great combination.
I'd love to go back though as I feel missed a lot of it or something.

And lets face it,there is nothing salubrious about Kilkenny.

Is Kilkenny a city?I thought it was a town.

Beanntraigheach

RayM wrote: »

I like referring to it as 'Londonderry', just to see if people are petty enough to correct me.

At least you acknowledge that it's a correction.

Capt'n Midnight

Jayop wrote: »

I think the official name is Derry-Londonderry

It's Stroke City.

Derry / Londonderry

dd972

You're surnames not Lundy by any chance OP...

road_high

DrPhilG wrote: »

I live in Donegal and work in Derry and I don't know what you're all talking about.

Of course it has its crap areas but its far from the hell hole some of you think it is. No better or worse than any city.

I don't think it's a hell hole but I do think it's a lot worse than Cork, Limerick or Galway for example. My opinion is entirely subjective but I've no bias or prejudice for or against any of these places.
Setting that aside, I'd also rate my home city Kilkenny streets ahead of Derry.

road_high

magentis wrote: »

And lets face it,there is nothing salubrious about Kilkenny.

Is Kilkenny a city?I thought it was a town.

Who cares? It's leagues ahead of Derry whatever you want to call it. Kilkenny is not rough by any measure, the people generally don't all look like extras from benefits street, and it's not full of pawn shops and cash converters 😉. Oh and it's also full of lovely restaurants and bars. Unlike Derry.

twill

Richard Hillman wrote: »

And they are kips too.

The Brandywell area of Derry-Londonderry is notoriously bad for attacking any group of fans. And it's not Derry fans, it's the locals that don't take kindly to outsiders.

The PSNI can not protect people going into the area because they won't go in at night and the place is completely run down because nobody from the council go in either

There's an interesting article on the historical context to the violence at the Brandywell...

It's not a reflection on the rest of Derry, though. It's run-down in areas but perfectly safe, though I would avoid the Waterside, the loyalist enclave.

The Backwards Man

The Waterside is not a 'loyalist enclave', it has a majority Unionist population, and the dickhead that is Gregory Campbell (he'll probably sue me for this:pac:) lives there, but it is just as hospitable as the any other residential area in Ireland.
I attend football matches all over the world, and the yobos that throw stones at the Brandywell pale in comparison to most, if you want people to judge a town on its worst elements, then no one would ever visit Dublin.

Derry is vibrant, stimulating and welcoming, if anyone that has visited here thinks otherwise, the problem lies with them, not Derry.

kidneyfan

road_high wrote: »

I don't think it's a hell hole but I do think it's a lot worse than Cork, Limerick or Galway for example. My opinion is entirely subjective but I've no bias or prejudice for or against any of these places.
Setting that aside, I'd also rate my home city Kilkenny streets ahead of Derry.

Kilkenny is barely a town and there isn't a looker in the county. The county should be its own province as it isn't fit to be in Leinster.

The Backwards Man

Jesus, it's a sure sign the world has gone to pot when an Inishowen person has to stand up for the muckers

road_high

kidneyfan wrote: »

Kilkenny is barely a town and there isn't a looker in the county. The county should be its own province as it isn't fit to be in Leinster.

Zzzzzz...I'm loathe to get into some county point scoring rubbish just because Derry isn't very good, but facts speak for themselves second most visited county in Leinster after Dublin and 9th in the country. Apart from Wicklow, Wexford the rest of Leinster is a no go zone as regards visitors 😉.

twill

The Backwards Man wrote: »

The Waterside is not a 'loyalist enclave', it has a majority Unionist population, and the dickhead that is Gregory Campbell (he'll probably sue me for this:pac:) lives there, but it is just as hospitable as the any other residential area in Ireland.
I attend football matches all over the world, and the yobos that throw stones at the Brandywell pale in comparison to most, if you want people to judge a town on its worst elements, then no one would ever visit Dublin.

Derry is vibrant, stimulating and welcoming, if anyone that has visited here thinks otherwise, the problem lies with them, not Derry.

You're right, it's not an enclave, I was thinking of somewhere else. I know someone who lived there for a few years, and it was understood that it wasn't a good idea to go to certain parts of the Waterside if you had a southern accent. It may be nice, but I personally would stay clear.

Look up incidents at the Brandywell, they're not exactly a few people throwing stones. Derry has its good sides, but it can be a bit grim. Less of the dour, grim effect than some other places in the north, but it has its problems. On the other hand, there's a great spirit there too.

ChikiChiki

Hugh Mungus wrote: »

This is the worst attempt at trolling in the whole of 2016.

It's a late entry but I think it's a winner of said worst entry award.

you should all go up to 'London'derry for Halloween, best spot ever!

twill

bubblypop wrote: »

you should all go up to 'London'derry for Halloween, best spot ever!

I've heard it's brilliant. The person I knew who lived there talked about people going around with balaclavas and fake guns and no-one, including the PSNI, batting an eye. Lots of nuns too.

Fozzie Bear

RayM wrote: »

I like referring to it as 'Londonderry', just to see if people are petty enough to correct me.

Think the majority of the locals wouldn't find it petty to correct you.

DrPhilG wrote: »

I live in Donegal and work in Derry and I don't know what you're all talking about.

Of course it has its crap areas but its far from the hell hole some of you think it is. No better or worse than any city.

What he said^^. I have family living in Fahan in Donegal and take a trip up there 7/8 times a year (was up there this weekend as it happens) and always end up going into Derry. Always found it to be a fine spot to eat/shop or have a pint in while herself melts the credit card. I have driven (or been driven) through the majority of it. Just like anywhere else it has its good and its bad but overall there is far more of the good.

Utter boll0x to brand it a sink estate.

bubblypop wrote: »

you should all go up to 'London'derry for Halloween, best spot ever!

They LOVE halloween up there. Love it. If you want to stand out from the crowd at Halloween just wear your normal clothes. Everyone else is in costume.

Goya

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Never really got this. Any idea how many Liverpools and such like are around the world. New England in the USA they seem to have not a care.

What do you mean? How does that relate to it being called Derry or Londonderry?

RayM wrote: »

I like referring to it as 'Londonderry', just to see if people are petty enough to correct me.

The pettiness is by you sir.

I don't see how the Brandywell being rough means Derry is rough.