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Cork City Marathon 2017
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You put in a bleeding sprint right at the end! Beat me by 10 metres. Love the way we didn't exchange a single word for those milesinnuendo141 wrote: »Jesus, the last 10kms were rough alright. I was glad you were there too, not just the pacer. It was great to have someone else going for it. Massive congratulations as I know exactly what you felt and went through for those few miles!
Same! It was good knowing someone else was suffering with me! The last stretch along the street seemed to go on forever. It's a marathon I wont forget i can tell you that.
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You put in a bleeding sprint right at the end! Beat me by 10 metres. Love the way we didn't exchange a single word for those miles
Jeeckust, I was sure I came in after you! The last stretch is a complete blur- I even threw my hands in the air like an eejit, I remember that much! The pacer spoke enough for both of us, the focus on not choking was too strong!0 -
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Name|Bib No:|Event|PB|Target|Finish Time
hot buttered scones||Full|03:21:45|03:14:59|3:29:24
corkladd||Half|01:39:03|01:29:59|
overthebridge||Half|01:35:14|01:34:30|
TheBigGreen||Full|-|03:29:59|
Itziger||Full|03:03:28|02:59:30|
Jakey Rolling ||Full|3:36:00|3:2x:xx|3:27:15|
CR 7||Full|3:03:45|2:59:59|
robinph||Half|1:19:15|<1:22|
sixpack's little hat||Half|1:22:0x|1:19:59|
Race report
Licking my wounds a bit today.0 -
hot buttered scones wrote: »Name|Bib No:|Event|PB|Target|Finish Time
hot buttered scones||Full|03:21:45|03:14:59|3:29:24
corkladd||Half|01:39:03|01:29:59|
overthebridge||Half|01:35:14|01:34:30|
TheBigGreen||Full|-|03:29:59|
Itziger||Full|03:03:28|02:59:30|
Jakey Rolling ||Full|3:36:00|3:2x:xx|3:27:15|
CR 7||Full|3:03:45|2:59:59|
robinph||Half|1:19:15|<1:22|
sixpack's little hat||Half|1:22:0x|1:19:59|
Race report
Licking my wounds a bit today.
HBS, you'll have better days. Put it down in the ledger and move on. Think about what went wrong but don't be beating yourself up either. Most of us are in it for the long term and it's with years of decent training that the improvements come. I first targeted 2.59 in Frankfurt 2014 and failed gloriously, or ingloriously in fact. Had another few cracks at it and last year injury/illness put paid to any attempt. So almost 3 full years after giving it a lash I got what I wanted. Not everyone is as slow a learner as me but I think most of us do have to go back for a couple of cracks. Keep up the training and you'll reap the benefits one day.0 -
hot buttered scones wrote: »Name|Bib No:|Event|PB|Target|Finish Time
hot buttered scones||Full|03:21:45|03:14:59|3:29:24
corkladd||Half|01:39:03|01:29:59|
overthebridge||Half|01:35:14|01:34:30|
TheBigGreen||Full|-|03:29:59|
Itziger||Full|03:03:28|02:59:30|
Jakey Rolling ||Full|3:36:00|3:2x:xx|3:27:15|
CR 7||Full|3:03:45|2:59:59|
robinph||Half|1:19:15|<1:22|
sixpack's little hat||Half|1:22:0x|1:19:59|
Race report
Licking my wounds a bit today.
Did you still set a pb for cork though? If so mark it as progress. You suffered and did sub 3:30- an amazing time by anyone's standard. You will absolutely smash Dublin.0 -
Name|Bib No:|Event|PB|Target|Finish Time
hot buttered scones||Full|03:21:45|03:14:59|3:29:24
corkladd||Half|01:39:03|01:29:59|
overthebridge||Half|01:35:14|01:34:30|
TheBigGreen||Full|-|03:29:59|
Itziger||Full|03:03:28|02:59:30|
Jakey Rolling ||Full|3:36:00|3:2x:xx|3:27:15|
CR 7||Full|3:03:45|2:59:59|3:20.xx
robinph||Half|1:19:15|<1:22|
sixpack's little hat||Half|1:22:0x|1:19:59|
Had a bit of a lesson on how attempting 2:59 without training hard enough isn't such a good idea. Worked hard to stay with the 3hr pace group up to about 16 miles and then walked/ran the rest in a bit of pain. I actually thought the new course still felt easier than Dublin, but then again I was walking for a lot of the harder 2nd half. That's it for marathon attempts for 2017, so I might be back to try for 2:59 again in Cork 2018(With a bit more mileage in the legs, hopefully).0 -
Name|Bib No:|Event|PB|Target|Finish Time
hot buttered scones||Full|03:21:45|03:14:59|3:29:24
corkladd||Half|01:39:03|01:29:59|
overthebridge||Half|01:35:14|01:34:30|
TheBigGreen||Full|-|03:29:59|
Itziger||Full|03:03:28|02:59:30|2:59:10|
Jakey Rolling ||Full|3:36:00|3:2x:xx|3:27:15|
CR 7||Full|3:03:45|2:59:59|3:20.xx
robinph||Half|1:19:15|<1:22|
sixpack's little hat||Half|1:22:0x|1:19:59|
It would be wrong not to update the table. As I've said already and will say again, although it should be kinda obvious, super happy with the time, result and run.0 -
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Did you still set a pb for cork though? If so mark it as progress. You suffered and did sub 3:30- an amazing time by anyone's standard. You will absolutely smash Dublin.
My previous Cork time was 3:49:29 on the old course. My wife reminded me yesterday that I'd having taken someone's arm off for a sub 3:30 this time last year, and she was quite right (she always is
). I'm still feeling bit sheepish though because I talked a good game, but failed to deliver on the day. You live and learn, I suppose. 0 -
hot buttered scones wrote: »My previous Cork time was 3:49:29 on the old course. My wife reminded me yesterday that I'd having taken someone's arm off for a sub 3:30 this time last year, and she was quite right (she always is ). I'm still feeling bit sheepish though because I talked a good game, but failed to deliver on the day. You live and learn, I suppose.
You had a very similar experience to me HBS, you feel hard done by for a few days and replay the race over & over again in your head. But it's done now, let it go and learn from it cause it will stand to you in your next marathon. You gutted it out and finished it out, that's something to be very proud of, there's mental toughness there in buckets. Enjoy some down time and let the appetite come back to you.0 -
Name|Bib No:|Event|PB|Target|Finish Time
hot buttered scones||Full|03:21:45|03:14:59|3:29:24
corkladd||Half|01:39:03|01:29:59|
overthebridge||Half|01:35:14|01:34:30|
TheBigGreen||Full|-|03:29:59|
Itziger||Full|03:03:28|02:59:30|
Jakey Rolling ||Full|3:36:00|3:2x:xx|3:27:15|
CR 7||Full|3:03:45|2:59:59|3:20.xx
robinph||Half|1:19:15|<1:22|
sixpack's little hat||Half|1:22:0x|1:19:59|
Had a bit of a lesson on how attempting 2:59 without training hard enough isn't such a good idea. Worked hard to stay with the 3hr pace group up to about 16 miles and then walked/ran the rest in a bit of pain. I actually thought the new course still felt easier than Dublin, but then again I was walking for a lot of the harder 2nd half. That's it for marathon attempts for 2017, so I might be back to try for 2:59 again in Cork 2018(With a bit more mileage in the legs, hopefully).
It's all a matter of perspective - in 2015 I ran a good race in Cork and not so good (albeit faster) one in Dublin and I reckoned Cork was the easier course. Then I had a cracking day at DCM 16 and a crap day yesterday and I reckon Dublin is easier - if you run it properly that is and don't blow it on the hills in the first 10 miles. I was like you - walking for a lot of the 2nd half yesterday. 16 miles is out by the South Ring - there's a nasty drag on that section alright - I was reduced to a walk there just before the off ramp up to Turners Cross. I think a lot of people had a tough day yesterday going by the splits, although that's small consolation I know. I was actually wondering would Cork be better if they ran it backwards? The course that is - not backwards running! You'll get the worst of the hills over in the first half and you'll really only have the climb out of the tunnel to cope with in the second half.0 -
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CCM 2017. Coffee/Tea/Whiskey/Wine…… you’ll need something, trust me.
So, 12th marathon, first one in Ireland, my home town of Cork to boot and 4th attempting the old sub 3. Training had gone fairly well although a serious coach would have a good bit to say. Myself, I was happy. Nice run of 3 or 4 months without injury, getting out 6 or 7 days a week and a few decent Long Runs with MP stuff. Felt the couple of progression runs I did in the last 3 weeks had sharpened me too.
I made more of an effort at carb loading this time around. Didn’t do it all kosher with wholemeal this and wholemeal that, but I ate a good few hundred grams of carbs for sure and not rubbish either. Flew into Cork on Saturday morning, picked up the number (10!!) which freaked me out a bit, but otherwise all good. Had an old bottle of beer with dinner cos I didn’t want to have a 100% break with the demon….. the body might have reacted badly to 0%.
So, massive advantage of the small number marathons is you can go in with 30 minutes to go and no hassle. I wind myself up a bit when I have to queue and jostle and stand in a pen for an extended period. None of that. Very rudimentary warm up and I take my place. Quick little chat with the 2 sub 3 pacers. I tell them that a mere 38 years ago I ran with their club for a bit; strangely they didn’t seem to remember me
One of my few concerns at this stage was the bleeding sun and about the only thing I’d forgotten was my trusty cap. Ah, well, shouldn’t be a major problem. (It nearly was).
We settle into a decent pace although it wasn’t exactly flat and consistent. Felt good and we were a group of about 20 or 25. Very little to say about the first 8k. The tunnel is the first mental test I think and it was a fair old drag out of it and up into Mahon. The sun was warm enough and already the water was going over the head. Good camaraderie in the group with plenty of water sharing and so on. I only encountered one fella who used the elbow on one occasion and I avoided him after that. One other minor concern was that I’d lost 2 of the 4 gels stupidly; they slipped out of the belt. I took one earlier than I would have and held onto the second, and last!, in my hand.
The younger of the pacers was advising people on relaxing and breathing and so on, telling us not to bate up the hills yet, that we’d make up the few seconds on the downhill. Approaching the Half, I was feeling comfortable and relatively confident but I knew the fun was yet to begin, as always. Like many before me, my problem has been the old ‘fade’ in the last 10 to 12k. Is it psychological? Physical? A mixture of the two? So I wasn’t exactly brimming with confidence yet!!
We hit the 25k mark and the group has definitely thinned out a bit. We’re down to a dozen I’d say. Nice bit of support around the ‘central’ bit before we head South and start the tough section. I’d read a fair bit about this but I didn’t want to make a big deal of the drags. On a good day you hardly notice ‘em.
(I probably should point out that the pacers had swapped with a pair of mates at Halfway but the first two kept going till km 25 approx as that was where they could drop out and get their shower and gear. By then also we had ‘got used to’ the new lads, also from the Barrs.)
As we hit the drags I can feel the old fatigue increasing and the workload goes up for the first time. Group is 8 or 10 now. Then at about km 31 or 32 I start for the first time to drop 5 or 10 metres off the pacers. No biggie but it’s a long way to go and a real psychological point. I have a drop of flat Coca Cola and hit the last longish pull upwards. I know that if I get over this in decent shape I have a good chance, or maybe more accurately, I’m giving myself a good chance. This is where the pacer lad really starts giving it some. ‘Last climb, lads (there were no females), all the training ye’ve done, glory miles after this…….’ And a fruity bit of gee up every now and again.
And here we go, last 8k. I’m on target – pacer says we’re 30 seconds up – I’m tired and the legs are in ‘pre-cramping’ mode, a few darts and twitches but thanks be to baby jeebus the full cramps don’t hit home. I know there’s a km or so to a turn and then another right that will take us back to the finish with a tail breeze. Small moment of diversion when ‘our’ (that’s me and a fella who turns out to be another Boardie, innuendo 141) pacer's balloon goes POP when it hits a thorn bush on Inchagaggin Lane. Right to the finish now this pacer hangs back with us and encourages us all the way home. We’re 50 metres or so behind the small remnant sub 3 group, one pacer and maybe 4 or 5 runners. I’m working really hard and struggling to keep the demons at bay. Once or twice I think, 3.01 would be a 2 minute + PB. But that’s $hite talk and I shut it out. I also notice that we’re maintaining the gap to the lads in front and though no words are spoken and I barely glance at the lad, I am feeding off innuendo and I think we tried to run together as much as the concentration allowed.
At this stage I’m really thinking, c’mon 3 or so kms to go. I’ve actually recovered a tiny bit in that the cramps have stayed away and the breeze is helping and it’s pancake flat. Pacer says we still have 30 seconds in hand with 2 miles to go. I go to the arms now (I love that expression for some reason ) and the breathing is a bit manic. Puffing and blowing rather than anything controlled. Down the Mardyke and into the funny narrow path there before emerging onto the North Mall. How many times did I walk this in my 8 years at UCC? No time to get emotional though yet. I glance at the watch at what I reckon from someone’s Strava post is 1k to go. 2.55. I know I’m not running that slowly. I know now that if I can keep the form and rhythm I’m home. Now it’s more a case of ‘Don’t fcuk up, ya dope’.
Down North Main St. I notice the little speed bumps and yes they are a bit of a pain but they’re not going to stop me now. One fella from the ‘real’ sub 3 group has started to come back to us and so does the other pacer. In fact, the dropper is sporting a Galway Tri top and for a mad fleeting moment I think it might be the Bitter Lemon himself. Around Washington St, Daunt’s Square into Patrick St. A few hundred metres to go. Oh, man. Big crowds now obviously and a huge number of my family await at the end. I try to raise the tempo but have no idea if I’ve succeeded. Slightly bizarrely one of the pacers puts his hand on my back, the kidney area, and kind of guides me home; maybe I looked worse than I like to think. Last bend, Innuendo, the bollix, sprints away but more importantly I see the clock. 2’59 and a few seconds.. 10 or 15 or so. The relief is just indescribable. At long last I relax and manage a smile I think. Some kind of clenched fist but it’s all a blur. I stop the watch at 2.59.09 and get wobbly but nothing too drastic. Just the usual! Thank the pacers, look for the gang (we’re a big extended family) and finally the emotions run over but I control the sobbing episode after a few secs and stroll on. Water, banana and a fantastic pic with Mam (88 years young). I’m so proud of the achievement it’s hard to explain. I don’t really show it but I feel it deep down. I hung in there for 8k of pain and anguish. After all those fades, 3.03, 3.04, 3.05, 3.09, 3.12, 3.13 (that was a sub 3 attempt!!) I am a sub 3 marathon runner. 4 minute pb, 8 days off the 52nd birthday. And all in sunny Cork. Sure what else would ya be doing on a Sunday morning?
Apologies for rambling.0 -
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Thanks lad. Great result for me. 12th marathon and first sub 3. Went with the pacers and started to hurt/fatigue with about 10k to go. One of the lads dropped back to encourage us - I think there were only 2 of us, 3 max, and he did a great job getting us home. Will obviously write a report later at some stage but just to say. Lovely day, almost too much sun, tough enough in places, hello km 34, but I can't complain!!!!
Had to go home to the town of my birth and family to nail the ould sub 3 and in the last tough bit that was definitely a help.
Great run D.
Well done but it's about feckin time
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Name|Bib No:|Event|PB|Target|Finish Time
hot buttered scones||Full|03:21:45|03:14:59|3:29:24
corkladd||Half|01:39:03|01:29:59|
overthebridge||Half|01:35:14|01:34:30|
TheBigGreen||Full|-|03:29:59|03:42:30
Itziger||Full|03:03:28|02:59:30|2:59:10|
Jakey Rolling ||Full|3:36:00|3:2x:xx|3:27:15|
CR 7||Full|3:03:45|2:59:59|3:20.xx
robinph||Half|1:19:15|<1:22|
sixpack's little hat||Half|1:22:0x|1:19:59|
Tough but great day on Sunday, knew early on that my target was not going to happen, started to slow down after mile 18, no power in the legs!0 -
CCM Innuendo flying by Itziger, on Flickr
Trying to post a pic or two. Here's Innuendo blasting home. Pacers still don't trust me on my own!!! Even though I had 50 seconds in hand.0 -
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Name|Bib No:|Event|PB|Target|Finish Time
hot buttered scones||Full|03:21:45|03:14:59|3:29:24
corkladd||Half|01:39:03|01:29:59|
overthebridge||Half|01:35:14|01:34:30|
TheBigGreen||Full|-|03:29:59|03:42:30
Itziger||Full|03:03:28|02:59:30|2:59:10|
Jakey Rolling ||Full|3:36:00|3:2x:xx|3:27:15|
CR 7||Full|3:03:45|2:59:59|3:20.xx
robinph||Half|1:19:15|<1:22|1:21:27
sixpack's little hat||Half|1:22:0x|1:19:59|
I'm sure that was hillier than when I did the last two legs of the relay before. Was also fairly windy, but thankfully a tail wind for the exposed straight road. Happy enough with that though as the last part of my weekends racing which also included being 1st finisher, and pushing a buggy, around Clarisford parkrun, then an hour later getting 3rd in the Lough Derg 10km and then 4th old bloke in the Cork Half on the Sunday.
Perfect preparation for a marathon next weekend... isn't it?0 -
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