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14-12-2016 10:31pm#1
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At the risk of derailing this thread why are so many people hating on the "POLITE" vests?Amelia Wailing Police wrote: »People who wear them are utter bellends.
What
? Am I missing something?
Of the couple of people I've talked to about wearing them both wore vests before and they just felt that the "POLITE" would give people another reason to take notice of them. Nothing unreasonable or bellendy about that
Personally if I was trying to look like a Gardai I'd have the white helmet with a full hi-vis jacket and some black trousers. That would definitely make people look twice before cutting you off0 -
At the risk of derailing this thread why are so many people hating on the "POLITE" vests?
What ? Am I missing something?
Of the couple of people I've talked to about wearing them both wore vests before and they just felt that the "POLITE" would give people another reason to take notice of them. Nothing unreasonable or bellendy about that
Personally if I was trying to look like a Gardai I'd have the white helmet with a full hi-vis jacket and some black trousers. That would definitely make people look twice before cutting you off
You have one dont ya
Scarrrlaahh0 -
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listermint wrote: »You have one dont ya
Scarrrlaahh
No way man, this is the only thing I'd use. Cost me absolutely nothing and provides the additional visibility where I want it. Not a hope I'd shell out €20-30 on anything like a POLITE vest. :pac:Max Headroom wrote: »Be honest here..if you wear a "POLITE" vest, do you wear it because people/drivers might think youre a "POLICE" motorcyclist and therefore makes you feel safer,by guilting them into getting out of your way.. or are you trying to get some message across that bikers are "POLITE"....i'm thinkin the former if im honest...
Personally I wouldn't wear one for either of those reasons. I'd assume their biggest benefit would be somebody seeing you, mistaking the POLITE for POLICE (if your lucky) and them getting an instant wake up call - "There is a policeman behind me, he's on a motorcycle, pay attention". Honestly Id rather rely on my own skill/ability to keep the rubber down. I was just saying I can understand why somebody would wear one, some people like to try and stack the odds, taking any small edge they can get.0 -
No way man, this is the only thing I'd use. Cost me absolutely nothing and provides the additional visibility where I want it. Not a hope I'd shell out €20-30 on anything like a POLITE vest. :pac:
Personally I wouldn't wear one for either of those reasons. I'd assume their biggest benefit would be somebody seeing you, mistaking the POLITE for POLICE (if your lucky) and them getting an instant wake up call - "There is a policeman behind me, he's on a motorcycle, pay attention". Honestly Id rather rely on my own skill/ability to keep the rubber down. I was just saying I can understand why somebody would wear one, some people like to try and stack the odds, taking any small edge they can get.
Totally agree with you there..I ride with the idea that no one can see me, even with the headlight on..and i'd assume that if i did wear one ,it would make me easier to see...i NEVER assume..it makes an ass out of u and me...:o
BTW...are'nt the RSA the ones that are trying to get car drivers to drive with lights on ALL the time...makes me feel even less important on the road..0 -
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macplaxton wrote: »Nah, it's rather yellow. :pac:
I've been codding myself for 22 years, crashed aplenty. I'll carry on codding myself until my numbers up thanks.
I'd say reflective bits have their uses in the dark.
Don't thank me. You're just validating my point by sounding somewhat offended. It's ridiculous TBH
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I don't wear hi-viz myself. I have some but it's very very rare that I put them on.
I choose not to wear one as I have assessed the pros/cons myself, as we all can.
But that doesn't mean I'm silly enough to say they are not more eye-catching than a dark jacket, for instance. Or that just because I've not had any accidents, that somehow means hi-viz is not actually "higher visibility" or more eye-catching, or else I "should have had an accident for not wearing one by now", etc...
The fact that a bright colour is more noticeable than a dark colour, in dark conditions, doesn't change regardless of whether there are reflectors on it or not. Reflectors improve it again.
And the argument that "oh, I have a big light on the front, if they can't see that then they're not gonna see me hi-viz" -- which is all too common amongst some of the more challenged here -- is also dumb, if someone stops and thinks about it for two seconds (i.e., there are countless opportunities that other road users would have had to notice another road user, at a time when a light isn't pointing anywhere near them).
Again, it doesn't matter that all road users SHOULD be fully observant; they're not and never will me, and it's your life. It's about probability. If hi-viz clothing means some lazy half-observant road user noticed you in a case whereas they otherwise would not have, then hi-viz has helped that particular road situation.
I'm not pro hi-viz at all, I just despise the mental gymnastics excuses people come up with here for not wearing one. Just don't wear one and be quiet, rather than saying they don't make one more eye-catching on the road.0 -
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