Executive Officer Campaign 2016

BlueCandle

The new EO campaign has launched - information booklet to follow...

mansize

Registered interest

Samsgirl

Just applied.. here we go again with a campaign ;-)

Areas

Same. I've been a Clerical officer for a year and I regretted not applying for the EO competition in 2014.

Crunchymomma

Just applied!! Was getting antsy wondering when this would come up

ruadh

Weekly working hours of 43 hours and 15mins and A/L starting at 23 days is pretty crap considering the grade, no?

osullic

Here we go again

Copper_pipe

Applied there

Yummymummy83

ruadh wrote: »

Weekly working hours of 43 hours and 15mins and A/L starting at 23 days is pretty crap considering the grade, no?

Think it's standard. That is inclusive of your breaks. 23 AL is good starting point IMO, after all it's considered a trainee role.

splendid101

ruadh wrote: »

Weekly working hours of 43 hours and 15mins and A/L starting at 23 days is pretty crap considering the grade, no?

43.25 hours per week includes 1.25 hours for lunch per day. The clocked-in hours are 37 per week.

I think 23 days is a standard enough amount of leave for a relatively junior position.

ruadh

I'm a CO and my starting AL is more than that.
Sorry, the hours make sense now. My contract obviously has the lunch deducted so just states 37 hours.

Areas

I'm a CO as well and my starting AL is 22 days.

dextero

splendid101 wrote: »

43.25 hours per week includes 1.25 hours for lunch per day. The clocked-in hours are 37 per week.

I think 23 days is a standard enough amount of leave for a relatively junior position.

Eo is not a junior position in most departments. They are expected to carry quite a high workload and manage staff which is never easy.

eimaj18

Great! Have submitted application. It's so easy to put in - the recent HEO one was a huge form with quite detailed questions.

Halpenny

Here's the link for those who want it : https://www.publicjobs.ie/publicjobs/campaignAdvert/47960.htm

Wheety

eimaj77 wrote: »

Great! Have submitted application. It's so easy to put in - the recent HEO one was a huge form with quite detailed questions.

You will be asked to complete a more detailed form before any interview. I think they're doing it this way because when they call people in a year and a half, their form will be out of date if they submit it now.

splendid101

ruadh wrote: »

I'm a CO and my starting AL is more than that.
Sorry, the hours make sense now. My contract obviously has the lunch deducted so just states 37 hours.

Clerical Officers start on 22 days annual leave per year. You were obviously a glitch in the system if you started on 24+ days.

Eo is not a junior position in most departments. They are expected to carry quite a high workload and manage staff which is never easy.

EO is the second rung of the administrative ladder. It's a junior manager. I think 23 days sounds about right for the level. I suppose it's up to prospective applicants to determine if it is suitable or not I suppose.

c0rk3r

I made a balls of the last EO maths portion last time around. I was too confident having sailed through previous AO competitions. This time around I not only intend to pass it but score highly. Im willing to spend a bit of money on pre-tests if anyone knows exactly which one will be used. I also need to improve on the work place scenarios. Is there somewhere that explains each one and gives the correct answer ?

Cheers

starlit

Hi I tried to apply and having trouble selecting the locations I want. I type in 1, 2 and I can't click on anything to say I want to pick those two locations. Will I need to contact public jobs office about this? Had anyone else trouble with selecting their location or have I missed something?

starlit

It ticks for all the other items on the online form but not for the locations. I've tried two different browsers.

mansize

doovdela wrote: »

It ticks for all the other items on the online form but not for the locations. I've tried two different browsers.

I typed in 1 & 2

starlit

I did that and my application form wouldn't go through said it didn't recognise the numbers and that I hadn't chosen my location(s). I sent public jobs an email just in case there is a glitch with it. Thanks I try that again.

misslemon

Brilliant! Another campaign

jaffusmax

Does anyone know if being a clerical officer in the HSE would count towards having 2 plus years service requirement for applying?

starlit

Application finally worked for me thanks!

BRYAN Is Ainm Dom

Folks, does anyone know if you are an existing EO, can you apply for this, I couldn't see it in the booklet. The reason I ask is I recently got promoted as an EO and in the department I am in, one of the other EO's told me that they are not letting anyone transfer out of the department.

I am located in Dublin but live outside of Dublin and would like to transfer eventually to be closer to home.

splendid101

splendid101 wrote: »

Clerical Officers start on 22 days annual leave per year. You were obviously a glitch in the system if you started on 24+ days.

CO a/l and other conditions can vary across public and civil service, local authority leave was higher but salary scale didnt go nearly as high when i was a co transferring between

monday monday

Hi all
I am currently 10 years in a semi state company. We have our own pay scales but have seen on some documentation 'EO' even though our scale is slightly higher than EO scale. Do you automatically go to bottom of pay scale?
Im nearer the top of my own scale so would be a good pay drop. I have a very long commute though and would apply anyway in the hope of getting closer to home.

starf1sh

BRYAN Is Ainm Dom wrote: »

Folks, does anyone know if you are an existing EO, can you apply for this, I couldn't see it in the booklet. The reason I ask is I recently got promoted as an EO and in the department I am in, one of the other EO's told me that they are not letting anyone transfer out of the department.

Of course you can apply, it's an open competition.

Crunchymomma

I am so glad they are allowing for location preference this time!!

splendid101

monday monday wrote: »

Hi all
I am currently 10 years in a semi state company. We have our own pay scales but have seen on some documentation 'EO' even though our scale is slightly higher than EO scale. Do you automatically go to bottom of pay scale?
Im nearer the top of my own scale so would be a good pay drop. I have a very long commute though and would apply anyway in the hope of getting closer to home.

I'm not 100% sure if it is the same coming from the Public Sector, but for existing Civil Servants, you don't take a pay cut but you "mark time". That is, you wouldn't get an increment until the scale catches up with what you are currently paid.

You have to weigh up whether you'd be happy to stay on the same money for the next few years with no increments.

It all depends on your current pay, how long until you reach the top, how long from retirement, etc., etc.

monday monday

splendid101 wrote: »

I'm not 100% sure if it is the same coming from the Public Sector, but for existing Civil Servants, you don't take a pay cut but you "mark time". That is, you wouldn't get an increment until the scale catches up with what you are currently paid.

You have to weigh up whether you'd be happy to stay on the same money for the next few years with no increments.

It all depends on your current pay, how long until you reach the top, how long from retirement, etc., etc.[

thanks for that. id have to wait 12 years so for an increment. but im nearly at the top of my own pay scale and its very difficult to get promoted where I currently am so might be on that pay for 12 years anyway.
thanks for the info

Guffy

It says "or leaving cert" in the criteria.


Is there any point without a degree?

Pudsy33

gufc21 wrote: »

It says "or leaving cert" in the criteria.


Is there any point without a degree?

Absolutely. It may be you have to do an aptitude test before anyone even looks at your CV. Apply, there's nothing to lose

Gael23

I have a masters degree in management. Would I be seen as too qualified

yabadabado

Gael23 wrote: »

I have a masters degree in management. Would I be seen as too qualified

They wont care .

One question though,why would you go for this position if you have a masters ?

Crunchymomma

I only have a LC and have applied. I cont see why it would suffice. If we are good enough to get through aptitude tests, etray and interview then what difference does it make whether you have a degree or not

eimaj18

Does anyone know anything about the aptitude tests - particularly who the provider is? The HEO one recently was Cut-e whereas the AP one seems to be SHL. I'm much better at the Cut-e one so here's hoping!

Guffy

Are they similar to the CO ones? The maths and language ones were simple but i trip myself up in the situation one. I keep trying to think of what they would look for rather than what i would do

Pudsy33

gufc21 wrote: »

Are they similar to the CO ones? The maths and language ones were simple but i trip myself up in the situation one. I keep trying to think of what they would look for rather than what i would do

Yeah I'd imagine so. The AO one was anyway

Halpenny

From the current EO application form:

Eligible candidates NOT currently working in the Civil Service may apply for the Open position.
Eligible candidates working in the Civil Service may apply for the Open and Interdepartmental positions.

So going by this I'm thinking even TCO working in the CS can apply for the Interdepartmental positions??

Slydice

Halpenny wrote: »

From the current EO application form:


So going by this I'm thinking even TCO working in the CS can apply for the Interdepartmental positions??

I think so. Just check for other requirements like 2 years service etc..

Monife

Jelly Freddy wrote: »

What's the cash like?

Approximately €27,700.

Halpenny

Slydice wrote: »

I think so. Just check for other requirements like 2 years service etc..

Thank for reply.
Just reading over the booklet again. Could be wrong but isn't the 2 years service needed if you don't fulfill (i) / (ii) / (iii) / (iv) requirements eg don't have a degree/qualification etc?

Slydice

well, I can't find this years advertisement, see if you can attach it to a reply here

anyway, here's the one from 2014:
http://circulars.gov.ie/pdf/circular/per/2014/04.pdf

The bit about promotions is on page 2:

Candidates for
promotion to Executive Officer must:
a) be serving in an established, unestablished or acting (see para 5.b) below) capacity in the Civil Service in a grade below that of Executive Officer,
and
b) on or before the closing date of 8th January, 2015, and have not less than two years service in the Civil Service. Unestablished officers and officers serving in an acting capacity in the eligible grades may compete in the competition provided they fulfil the eligibility requirements set out above.

It's where they use the word "and" to mean both a and b above. b says "not less than two years service"

Maybe it changed in this years competition.

sister bliss

I'm currently a CO. As I only have 6 months done in civil service, i'm not eligible for the internal competition but can I still apply through the open competition??

Areas

Yeah you can still apply for the open.

Wheety

sister bliss wrote: »

I'm currently a CO. As I only have 6 months done in civil service, i'm not eligible for the internal competition but can I still apply through the open competition??

If you meet the qualification requirements.

o Fiac

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Guffy

Whats the difference during the application between the Irish stream and the regular one. I have good irish but wouldn't dream of sitting an interview in one. I've been told by an existing civil servant that you only have to hold a quick conversation but I'm sceptical tbh

Monife

ó Fíach wrote: »

Im a CO have about 15 months now and established now, it's 1 year for internal competitions is it?

2 years as far as I know but you can apply for the open.