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Wicklow 200 2017

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    #302
    lissard
    Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭lissard


    I think people on this thread have a very valid point about the W200 organisations lack of response to their genuine queries. I had exactly this experience last year when trying to return a jersey. To be honest I'm not sure they respond to email. I would recommend instead posting directly on their Facebook page, from what I can see they do respond to that.


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    #303
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    And what's wrong with that? What cyclist doesn't like going into a bike shop?

    Ones who had other plans for that Saturday morning, given they'll be cycling all day Sunday.


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    #304
    py
    Registered Users Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭py


    I think them not posting out this year is a bit dud tbh, particularly with the price increase. Sure, it suits me to go to CSS on the Saturday morning but would obviously prefer not to. I'd say it's more of a pain for those travelling outside of Dublin as it means they've more to organise for that weekend.


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    #305
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users Posts: 8,248 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    smacl wrote: »
    Ones who had other plans for that Saturday morning, given they'll be cycling all day Sunday.

    So pick it up in Bray on Sunday Morning. (Mountain/molehill comes to mind)


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    #306
    Wishbone Ash
    Registered Users Posts: 24,995 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    smacl wrote: »
    Ones who had other plans for that Saturday morning....
    ...like those doing the Boards.ie Evil ride!


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    #307
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    So pick it up in Bray on Sunday Morning. (Mountain/molehill comes to mind)

    TBH, it is the lack of communication that irks*. I'd sent an email wanting to know when/whether the usual number / card etc... would be posted out and got no response. First I heard it wouldn't was on this thread. Had to post on their facebook page to find out whether it would be possible to do this on the morning. This is something they should be communicating to those taking part, not something participants discover or not based on their use of social media, particularly since this is a change to the way they've run the event in recent years. The cost they're saving themselves on postage seems to be at the expense of those taking part.

    (* also a bit grumpy at the mo due to a chest infection keeping me off the bike, so jumping at any opportunity to bitch about things. Should be grand on the day!)


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    #308
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users Posts: 8,248 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    smacl wrote: »
    TBH, it is the lack of communication that irks*. I'd sent an email wanting to know when/whether the usual number / card etc... would be posted out and got no response. First I heard it wouldn't was on this thread. Had to post on their facebook page to find out whether it would be possible to do this on the morning. This is something they should be communicating to those taking part, not something participants discover or not based on their use of social media, particularly since this is a change to the way they've run the event in recent years. The cost they're saving themselves on postage seems to be at the expense of those taking part.

    (* also a bit grumpy at the mo due to a chest infection keeping me off the bike, so jumping at any opportunity to bitch about things. Should be grand on the day!)


    TBH, I think the whole "Card" thing is silly. why the organisers cant use the sign up process and simply email a receipt with a number and/or a bar code on it when you pay. no need then for any "Pack", no postage etc.

    On the day, people would be able to arrive, have their barcode scanned (i.e. sign in), then they could have these "Packs" on a table and volunteers could simply give one to those who want one.

    Has anyone mentioned Medals yet? :p


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    #309
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    Has anyone mentioned Medals yet? :p

    Don't mention the war, youngest was raging that year not to have a new medal for her collection. Told in no uncertain terms to go faster next year ;)


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    #310
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Just got this. Someone somewhere maybe reads boards.

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    #311
    terrydel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    Crocked wrote: »
    terrydel wrote: »
    IF thats true it can only be about getting people into the shop and trying to patr them from some of their hard earned cash. Terribly cynical if thats the case, it gets harder and harder to have any respect for some of these sportives. Some of them are starting to become blatant money gougers.

    Whilst I'm sure the sponsor wants to get something back from their investment it could also be a case of making things a little easier for the participants.

    Not having to drive to Bray the day before or an extra 15 mins in the bed on the morning of the event seems like something that will be of use to a lot of people.

    Postage costs are not insignificant these days after the last price increase. Win win as far as I can see.
    Respectfully disagree. Understand postage costs are not insignificant, but the cost has gone up, and cyclesuperstore doesnt suit a lot of people location wise (its very handy for me I must say).
    Fair enough if they want to get something back for their investment, in retrospect I cant begrudge them that.
    But this will now be chip timed and personally I think that money is far better spent on things like posting out these packs. Chip timing is a waste of time on sportives in this day and age, everyone has garmin type devices that do the job better anyway. And it is for me at least against the spirit of sportives, and a mere gimmick. Posting out was hugely helpful to all participants, there simply is no argument that this has made things worse in that regard. and its unneccesary given the increase in cost. Just my opinion.


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    #312
    terrydel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    smacl wrote: »
    TBH, it is the lack of communication that irks*.  I'd sent an email wanting to know when/whether the usual number / card etc... would be posted out and got no response.  First I heard it wouldn't was on this thread.  Had to post on their facebook page to find out whether it would be possible to do this on the morning.  This is something they should be communicating to those taking part, not something participants discover or not based on their use of social media, particularly since this is a change to the way they've run the event in recent years.  The cost they're saving themselves on postage seems to be at the expense of those taking part.

    (* also a bit grumpy at the mo due to a chest infection keeping me off the bike, so jumping at any opportunity to bitch about things.  Should be grand on the day!)


    TBH, I think the whole "Card" thing is silly. why the organisers cant use the sign up process and simply email a receipt with a number and/or a bar code on it when you pay. no need then for any "Pack", no postage etc.  

    On the day, people would be able to arrive, have their barcode scanned (i.e. sign in), then they could have these "Packs" on a table and volunteers could simply give one to those who want one.

    Has anyone mentioned Medals yet? :p
    Most sportives these days seem to use the likes of eventbrite which works well. Scanned on the day and off you go.
    Any that dont use this method should move it imho. Im sure theres a cost attached but its worth it I think.


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    #313
    bbolger
    Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭bbolger


    smacl wrote: »
    Just got this. Someone somewhere maybe reads boards.

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    So assuming you "sign on" at option 1 or 2, what's actually required on the Sunday morning then, just get your card scanned to start the clock ticking?

    Longer queues than normal even last year so l'll definitely be getting there early as imagine there'll be added hassle with the new sign on and location move.


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    #314
    Wishbone Ash
    Registered Users Posts: 24,995 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    bbolger wrote: »
    So assuming you "sign on" at option 1 or 2, what's actually required on the Sunday morning then, just get your card scanned to start the clock ticking?
    I'm assuming that after doing 1 or 2, you would be in the same position as having received the pack in the post in previous years - just get scanned in on the morning of the ride itself.


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    #315
    Unknown Soldier
    Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭Unknown Soldier


    BTW, when you get scanned at the start, the clock starts ticking, so when you finish, get scanned again asap. Don't be hanging around lording in your awsome'ness! Which you are more than entitled too tbh.

    That's how it was in 2015, can't actually recall any "times list" for last year!


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    #316
    Wishbone Ash
    Registered Users Posts: 24,995 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Unknown Soldier wrote: »
    BTW, when you get scanned at the start, the clock starts ticking, so when you finish, get scanned again asap. Don't be hanging around lording in your awsome'ness! Which you are more than entitled too tbh....
    Leaving aside those who are just interested in getting to the finish line, those who are interested in their time will probably be using the details on their Garmins etc. rather than official times.


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    #317
    Macy0161
    Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Wishbone Ash wrote: »
    Leaving aside those who are just interested in getting to the finish line, those who are interested in their time will probably be using the details on their Garmins etc. rather than official times.
    Strava time is the only time that matters, and the only proof of actually doing it anyway!


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    #318
    terrydel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    Unknown Soldier wrote: »
    BTW, when you get scanned at the start, the clock starts ticking, so when you finish, get scanned again asap. Don't be hanging around lording in your awsome'ness! Which you are more than entitled too tbh.

    That's how it was in 2015, can't actually recall any "times list" for last year!

    Dont get the fascination with the official event time at all, the only one that matters is the one on your bike, actual cycling time.
    Anything else can be affected by numerous factors so means sod all really.


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    #319
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users Posts: 8,248 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    An extra 200 entries available...


    http://www.wicklow200.ie/extra-entries/


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    #320
    dahat
    Registered Users Posts: 16,788 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Anyone got a set of W200 Garmin 520 friendly settings? I'd go mad if it dies near the end...

    Bluetooth off
    Screen at 40%
    Backlight off????

    Anything else I'm missing?


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    #321
    terrydel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    dahat wrote: »
    Anyone got a set of W200 Garmin 520 friendly settings? I'd go mad if it dies near the end...

    Bluetooth off
    Screen at 40%
    Backlight off????

    Anything else I'm missing?

    Get a garmin 200 instead :)
    Ridiculous those devices cant last long enough to do an event like that.


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    #322
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users Posts: 8,248 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    terrydel wrote: »
    Get a garmin 200 instead :)
    Ridiculous those devices cant last long enough to do an event like that.

    They can! I've a 520 and get 10 hours out of it.


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    #323
    dahat
    Registered Users Posts: 16,788 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    terrydel wrote: »
    Get a garmin 200 instead :)
    Ridiculous those devices cant last long enough to do an event like that.

    Nah, no fancy **** on a 200!
    I'll tweak it and turn off the bells n whistles and hope for the best.


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    #324
    bbolger
    Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭bbolger


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    An extra 200 entries available...


    http://www.wicklow200.ie/extra-entries/

    So how many are doing it now... 3,000?


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    #325
    terrydel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    dahat wrote: »
    Nah, no fancy **** on a 200!
    I'll tweak it and turn off the bells n whistles and hope for the best.

    That to me is a plus.
    Its nice to get away from all that nonsense when out on the bike imho.


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    #326
    dahat
    Registered Users Posts: 16,788 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    terrydel wrote: »
    That to me is a plus.
    Its nice to get away from all that nonsense when out on the bike imho.

    This is true but I do like to look at some of the nonsense during a spin.


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    #327
    DS2013
    Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭DS2013


    Can anyone tell me where the food stops are on the 200 route. Doing the 200 for the first time and need to try to work out where to stop and how much food to carry.


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    #328
    terrydel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    DS2013 wrote: »
    Can anyone tell me where the food stops are on the 200 route. Doing the 200 for the first time and need to try to work out where to stop and how much food to carry.

    Its a new route so God knows, and possibly the organisers too :P
    I think Rathangan (?) was the first main one, then Rathnew (?) previously.
    Im **** with place names.


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    #329
    Euro Fred
    Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭Euro Fred


    DS2013 wrote: »
    Can anyone tell me where the food stops are on the 200 route. Doing the 200 for the first time and need to try to work out where to stop and how much food to carry.
    Not up yet, last year's are available but I'm not sure myself where they will be.

    Someone has asked on their FB page so maybe that will give them a reminder to let people know.

    Hopefully this year they don't run out of water like last year.......... Yes that happened at a water stop. They ran out of water


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    #330
    cjonesy1
    Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭cjonesy1


    Is there anything stopping you starting out very early if you've collected your number on Sat?
    I know some of the food stations might not be open, but other than that...?
    Not too worried about the 'official' time either.


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    #331
    lissard
    Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭lissard


    DS2013 wrote: »
    Can anyone tell me where the food stops are on the 200 route. Doing the 200 for the first time and need to try to work out where to stop and how much food to carry.

    Food: Baltinglass (90k) and Rathdrum (150)
    Water: Wicklow Gap and Sliamh Maan

    That's what the old route had, can't see it changing.


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