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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Do you pause your benching?

    Now this is just an n=1 thing, though I'd be surprised if I was the only one, but pausing helped clean up my technique.

    I don’t pause but I totally agree with you. I find my technique feels much better when I do partial bench simply because I’m stopped on the safety’s for a second. I think I’ll introduce more paused in cycle 8. Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,588 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Might need dropping back the weight or just accepting you'll get fewer reps with a given weight but you should find yourself getting better at controlling the bar on the way down and getting it back and up to lockout. Hopefully.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Cycle 7 Deload Deadlift

    Paused 1” off floor to 100kg

    120 x 2
    140 x 1
    160 x 1
    180 x 1

    Squats
    80 x 3
    90 x 3
    100 x 3

    Core
    Crunches +20kg x 3 x 20
    Side plate lifts 20kg x 3 x 20
    Leg raise twists x 3 x 20

    Again another timid enough day. I probably shouldn’t have went for 180 but was curious how it would feel. Slow and heavy was the answer.

    I just did normal squats today. In flats, great depth so a big thanks to toe squats for that.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭BossArky


    Dtp1979 wrote: »

    I just did normal squats today. I’m flats, great depth so a big thanks to toe squats for that.

    What is a toe squat? Toes elevated on plates to stretch out calves/achieve depth before getting to main worksets?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    BossArky wrote: »
    What is a toe squat? Toes elevated on plates to stretch out calves/achieve depth before getting to main worksets?

    Yep pretty much yeah. I find them great


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Cycle 8 SQUAT week 1
    Repeating cycle 7

    Toe squats to 60kg

    77.5 x 5
    87.5 x 5
    100 x 5 (+2)

    Paused at knee DL 120kg x 3 x 6

    Core
    Plank x 90sec x 3
    Leg raise x 3 x 20
    Russian twist 3 x 20

    Toe squats
    60 x 4
    80 x 4
    90 x 3
    100 x 2
    Noramal squat beltless 120 x 1

    Can’t believe it’s 2 weeks since I did anything. It wasn’t all out of laziness. I had a wedding in Italy, failed a landing in the airport due to the storm so of to Newcastle for an extra day too. Glad to be back at it.

    All sets were fine except the final 4 reps on the last. Balance was all over the place so I decided to rack it. 1 less rep than cycle 7 but not too bothered. The weight wasn’t feeling heavy which is good.

    Deadlifts took a 20kg jump in weight. I felt technique slipping on the last rep of each set

    No leg machines free so I went back to the rack and did toe squats. 120 beltless was reasonably easy. Considering it was my old 1rm with a belt, that makes me a happy boy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Cycle 8 week 1 repeating cycle 2

    Paused Deadlift
    52.5 x 5
    60 x 5
    67.5 x 5
    60 x 8

    Pull ups bw 8,8,5

    Pin press 60kg x 3 x 8

    Shrugs 100kg x 3 x 15

    BW dips x 3 x 10

    Rev flys

    Pausing the bench is.....different. Definitely more aware of bar path. Weight feels alot heavier. I’m gonna scrap amrap and just do an extra set

    Pull ups were dreadful. The 2 week break must the to blame. Either that or I’m shjt at pull ups

    Everything else was meh at best. Feelin sick today didn’t help. Get through week 1 and I’ll be grand


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,588 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Pausing the bench is.....different. Definitely more aware of bar path. Weight feels alot heavier. I’m gonna scrap amrap and just do an extra set

    You should be able to get more from leg drive, which you won't get any benefit from with TnG.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    You should be able to get more from leg drive, which you won't get any benefit from with TnG.

    It’s somethinh I seriously need to work on too


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,588 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    It’s somethinh I seriously need to work on too

    It comes with time spent pausing yizzer bench.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Cycle 8 Deadlift week 1

    Paused 1” from floor up to 100kg

    110kg x 5
    120kg x 5
    140kg x 3 x 5

    Anderson squat 95kg x 3 x 5

    Core
    Crunches +20kg x 3 x 25
    Side plate raise 20kg x 3 x 20
    Leg raise twist x 2 x 20

    Leg extension 62.5 x 3 x 10

    Leg curl 49 10,9,8

    Deadlifts felt pretty good today considering it’s week 1. I think the 3 x 5 at the end was a good idea.

    Anderson squats seem to get easier as the sets go on. Perhaps I should do a warm up set before doing them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Cycle 8 week 1 OHP repeat cyc 2

    35kg x 5
    40kg x 5
    45kg x 5 (+2)
    35kg x 10

    Lat pulldown 75 10,10,8

    Seated OHP 40kg x 3 x 8

    1 arm seated cable row 25 x 4(8R, 12L)

    Shrugs 125kg x 3 x 10

    Rev cable fly/triceps/biceps

    3 less reps than cycle 2 in the main. That a lot. Added in more volume at the end. OHP always seamed to be better when I was doing seated version for assistance. Time will tell.

    Lat pulldown is always steadily improving. I’ve dropped back the weight a tad and increased the reps.

    1 arm cable rows. I’m doing 8-10 on my right and 12 in left arm. Simply because I’m stronger on my right side and my left later is visibly smaller too. Anytime I’ve encountered a weakness in a press it’s always the left side failing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,588 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    You're probably right to add in more volume in drop-back sets. You won't get stronger at a lift if you just do the same level of volume time after time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Cycle 8 week 2 SQUAT

    Toe squats to 60kg

    82.5kg x 3
    95kg x 3
    105kg x 5
    115kg x 3
    120 x 3
    130 x 2

    Deadlift
    100kg x 2
    110kg x 2
    130kg x 2
    140kg x 2
    160kg x 1
    170kg x 1

    Leg curl
    49.5 10,10,9

    Leg extension
    70 x 4 x 10

    Kinda went off track today. I was too busy playing with my new lever belt. Happy enough with it. Happy enough with the 130 x 2. Happy enough with the 170 Deadlift too. Happy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Cycle 8 week 2 Bench Press paused

    55kg x 3
    65kg x 3
    70kg x 3 (+2)
    65kg x 3 x 5

    Deadlift
    100 x 3
    110 x 3
    120 x 3
    140 x 1

    Pin press 65kg x 3 x 5

    Shrugs 100kg x 3 x 12

    Dips +15kg x 3 x 8

    One arm seated cable row
    Biceps
    Rev flys

    Bench is starting to feel a lot more comfortable since I switched to paused. I actually prefer paused to TNG.

    Decided to deadlift simply cause I was already using the platform for bench, the gym was busy so I didn’t want to lose my spot. Plus I was in no humour for pull ups since I was digging holes and mixing cement for the best part of yesterday.

    Again I did extra reps on my left side and an extra set with the one arm rows


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Cycle 8 week 2 Deadlift

    Paused 1” off floor up to 100kg

    115kg x 3
    130kg x 3
    147.5kg x 3 x 3

    Anderson squat 95kg x 3 x 6

    Core
    Ab wheel rollout x 3 x 10
    Side plate raise x 2 x 20

    Leg curl 49 10, 10, 9, 8

    Leg extension 65 x 3 x 10

    Calf raises

    I had zero energy this morning. Probably from eating no dinner last night and filling up on shjt from a kids party. Got through the session. Recorded the final set and saw my hips are still rising a bit on the initial lift.

    Anderson squats were comfortable enough. It was prob RPE 8 as yee powerlifters call it. Will go for 100kg next. Video to follow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Hopefully video works. I’m a disaster uploading videos
    https://youtu.be/4DsVAzFh-JE


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Cycle 8 week 2 OHP

    37.5kg x 3
    42.5kg x 3
    47.5kg x 3 (+2)
    40kg x 3 x 6

    Seated cable row 70 x 3 x 10

    Seated OHP 42.5kg 8,8,6

    Shrugs 100kg x 4 x 12

    1 arm cable row 3x8R. 4x12L

    Rev fly/biceps/triceps

    Still scratching me head as to why the reps have fallen away so much. My technique feels good, moves well but I just don’t have the strength to get anywhere near the reps I was doing months ago. Although I’m confident I’d still have my 1rm in me

    Lat pulldown was occupied so I did seated cable rows

    Time seemed to go slow today so I got plenty of pumpy excersises in.

    Best of luck to all who are lifting today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Cycle 8 week 3 Squat

    Toe squats to 60kg

    87.5kg x 5
    100kg x 3
    120kg x 1(+4)
    130kg x 1
    130kg x 1 (video)
    90kg x 6
    100kg x 5
    100kg x 8

    Core
    Crunches +20kg x 3 x 20
    Ab wheel rollout x 3 x 10
    Russian twist 3 x 20

    Leg curl 49 x 3 x 10

    Leg extension 65 x 3 x 10

    Calf raises

    I was looking forward to squatting today. They all felt great. My first 130x1 was surprisingly easy. Depth is borderline on the video. I recorded it after only 30 second rest from my first 130 x 1 so it’s a bit grindy. Any advice welcome as always.

    No time for deadlift as I did a good bit on squats.
    https://youtu.be/RBzJtFOWiRQ


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,588 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Cycle 8 week 3 Squat

    Toe squats to 60kg

    87.5kg x 5
    100kg x 3
    120kg x 1(+4)
    130kg x 1
    130kg x 1 (video)
    90kg x 6
    100kg x 5
    100kg x 8

    Core
    Crunches +20kg x 3 x 20
    Ab wheel rollout x 3 x 10
    Russian twist 3 x 20

    Leg curl 49 x 3 x 10

    Leg extension 65 x 3 x 10

    Calf raises

    I was looking forward to squatting today. They all felt great. My first 130x1 was surprisingly easy. Depth is borderline on the video. I recorded it after only 30 second rest from my first 130 x 1 so it’s a bit grindy. Any advice welcome as always.

    No time for deadlift as I did a good bit on squats.
    https://youtu.be/RBzJtFOWiRQ

    Doesn't look grindy at all. Hard angle to tell from but it looks just about in.

    For the benefit of having a good idea of what it's like, try record from the side. Even stand it against the smith machine that no one is using.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Doesn't look grindy at all. Hard angle to tell from but it looks just about in.

    For the benefit of having a good idea of what it's like, try record from the side. Even stand it against the smith machine that no one is using.

    Will do thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,588 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Will do thanks.

    It's just better not only to see depth but to look at coming out of the hole....are your hips coming up too quickly? Is your upper back not tight enough and letting itself get pushed down and putting you in the position of having to good morning up. You'd be surprised what you become conscious of by looking at it side on.

    That squat moved quickly though


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Cycle 8 week 3 Bench Press

    60kg x 5
    67.5kg x 3
    75kg x 1(+2)
    62.5kg x 3 x 6

    Barbell rows 62.5kg x 3 x 8

    Pin bench 62.5kg 8,8,6

    BB shrugs 100kg x 3 x 15

    Dips BW x 3 x 10
    S/S
    1 arm cable rows R3x8. L4x12

    Rev fly/biceps/triceps

    I won’t say Bench is getting easier cause it’s not but it’s startibg to feel a lot more comfortable, not because of the reduced weight, simply because of pausing. Bar path has improved an awful lot. If I can match my current 90kg 1RM paused by Xmas I’d be very happy.

    Decided to give pull-ups a break. Switched to BB rows. Started light today. I only used 62.5 because it was already on the bar from benching. Comfortable enough.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,588 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    I won’t say Bench is getting easier cause it’s not but it’s startibg to feel a lot more comfortable, not because of the reduced weight, simply because of pausing. Bar path has improved an awful lot. If I can match my current 90kg 1RM paused by Xmas I’d be very happy.

    The leg press will come with time and will help bring up the bench.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    The leg press will come with time and will help bring up the bench.

    Ye it’s something I need to start focusing on more. Find it very hard to keep it in my head doing reps


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Cycle 8 week 3 Deadlift

    Paused 1” off floor up to 100kg

    120kg x 5
    140kg x 3
    155kg x 2
    160kg x 1

    Pin squat 100kg x 3 x 6

    Leg curl 49 x 4 x 8

    Core

    ‘Twas a meh session at best. Pain in the left side of my lower back really put me off deadlifting much so I really concentrated on form. I think I figured out why my ass was rising though....keep the bar dug in to my shins. I was unknowingly straightening my legs slightly and as a result, ass rose up.

    Happy to finally get 100 on the squats. I feel I could go a bit heavier on them too


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Cycle 8 week 3 OHP

    40kg x 5
    45kg x 3
    50kg x 1(+2)
    42.5kg x 3 x 6

    Lat pulldown 75 x 3 x 10

    Seated OHP 42.5kg x 3 x 8

    DB shrugs 40kg x 3 x 15

    1 arm seated row R3x8. L4x10

    Rev fly/biceps/triceps

    I’m not putting 100% into the final set anymore due to the drops sets I’ve to do after. They’re moving ok so I’ll build on that

    Lat pulldown is a pb for reps on that weight I’m pretty sure

    I’m finally gonna get to use my micro plates or whatever they’re called next week


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Cycle 8 Deload

    Squat

    Toe squats to 80kg

    100kg x 3
    110kg x 3
    120kg x 1
    130kg x 1
    135kg x 1

    Loads of core and mobility

    Nearly fell forward on the 130. A scary moment I wasn’t expecting but I got it up. 135 was heavier than I expected and heavier than I should’ve been lifting on a Deload


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Cycle 8 Deload Bench Press

    All paused
    60kg x 4
    70kg x 3
    75kg x 2
    80kg x 1

    Barbell row parallel 60kg x 3 x 8

    Bw dips 3 x 5

    1 arm seated cable row 35 x R3x8/L4x10

    Rev flys/biceps/triceps

    I’m starting to get a feel for the Bench Press now. 80kg paused wasn’t too difficult so it’s looking good for 90 1rm.

    Everything else was just going through the motions


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Cycle 8 Deload Deadlift

    60kg x 5
    80kg x 5
    100kg x 3
    120kg x 2
    140kg x 1
    150kg x 1

    Squats 60kg x 3 x 5

    Core

    Calf raises/leg curls

    I kept everything to a minimum today. I usually put the belt on around 130 on deadlifts but decided against it today. Felt grand. No issues and all moving well


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