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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,591 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Deficits are smaller plates so 20mm lower than I’m used to.
    No not that strict yet. Just trying to build up some level of cardio at the moment. So the first 300m I go around 38-40m/s, the second 300m I do 40/42m/s and for the last I just keep over 42

    Well you're keeping an eye on the time it takes. It's very easy to make any distance take the time you allow yourself to take it :)

    Pick a time in the middle and allow yourself no more than that for each 300m so that in time you can build up the number of 300m rows you can do inside that time with X rest....it just makes the improvement more measurable for your own sake.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    5/3/1 cycle 14 OHP

    35kg x 5
    40kg x 5
    45kg x 5

    40kg 5, 5, 10

    Lat pulldown
    40 x 3 x 10
    50 x 8
    60 x 5
    70 x 3

    Core
    Russian twist x 4 x 20

    Db Bench.......not happening
    Db shrugs 40kg x 4 x 13

    Lat raises 4kg x 4 x 20

    Db Biceps curls 14kg x 4 x 12
    Tricep pulldowns 19kg x 4 x 10

    1,000m row 4m 40

    The shoulder was a bit sore starting off but soon shook it off and all was good. Felt good on the last drop set so went to 10
    Lat pulldown was testing the waters. Once I went up to 60/70 it started to hurt a little.
    Db Bench was hurting with 14kg dumbbells so I left well enough alone.
    I’m gonna alternate the rowing from 1,000m straight to days with intervals. Try and bring down the 1,000m time each session. 4.40 was leisurely enough. I think my best was 3.20.....alonnnggg time ago


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,591 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Is it a Concept 2 rower you use?

    If it is, try use the stroke rate or the time/500m to keep a steady pace in line with a time you're aiming for. It just makes it easier to assess what you can do for 1000m+.

    Even for 500m splits its good to gauge


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Is it a Concept 2 rower you use?

    If it is, try use the stroke rate or the time/500m to keep a steady pace in line with a time you're aiming for. It just makes it easier to assess what you can do for 1000m+.

    Even for 500m splits its good to gauge

    It’s a concept 2 yea.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,591 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    It’s a concept 2 yea.

    Perfect so. Again, it just makes measuring progress easier if you want to build to 3:20 for 1000m but realistically you're capable of 3:50 at the minute. That gives you a 1:55 split for 500m so 57s/250m. Keep it consistent for 750m and then gauge how much more there is to give in the last 250m. Over time you'll get a better feel for how to decrease splits/increase pace.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    5/3/1 cycle 14 week 2 Squat

    Toe squats to 90kg x 3

    107.5kg x 3
    122.5kg x 3
    137.5kg x 3

    112.5kg x 3 x 5

    RDL
    125kg x 5
    130kg x 5
    135kg x 5

    Sit-ups +10kg x 3 x 20
    Leg extension 62.5 x 3 x 10
    Leg curl 49 x 3 x 10

    Rower 300m x 3 x 50sec rest

    Squats were a delight today. The last 137.5 was slower but never ever in doubt. I felt all drop sets were clinical. Thanks for that too Alf.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    5/3/1 cycle 14 week 2 Benchpress pause

    55kg x 3
    62.5kg x 3
    70kg x 3

    60kg x 3 x 5

    B.B. row 62.5kg x 4 x 8

    Core
    Leg raises x 4 x 16

    Db OHP.......not today chief
    Db shrugs 40kg x 4 x 13 (pause at top)

    Cable overhead pull 18 x 4 x 15
    Bicep curls 14kg x 4 x 13


    Shoulder wasn’t as good as last week. Discomfort on the push and a bit sore in between.
    Rows were comfortable enough.
    Db OHP was a no goer. Sharp pain even using 12kg dumbbells.
    Rower busy at the end so no cardio


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    5/3/1 cycle 14 week 2 Deadlift deficit 20mm

    132.5kg x 3
    150kg x 3
    165kg x 3 PB :)

    145kg x 3 x 5

    Front squats
    60kg x 5
    75kg x 5
    90kg x 5

    Core
    Side plank raises +10kg x 4 x 12

    Leg extension 62.5 x 3 x 10
    Leg curl 45 x 3 x 11

    Deadlifts were good today. After the 165 triple I felt tired and wondered why. Turns out it was a new PB, that’s why. The drop sets actually got easier as they went on. The last 5 were probably as close to a perfect 5 (for me) as I’ll ever get.

    Front squats were a mixed bag. The squats themselves were handy. Weight not an issue at all......but, my left wrist would not co operate. Sharp shooting pain of it even moved a mm left or right. Plus the weight on my shoulders was sore which never really happens to me with front squats.

    I may drop a leg accessory cause I’m running outa time at the end and rowing is suffering because of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,591 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    If I was to drop one, I'd drop leg extensions. Deficit pulls work quads a bit harder than without deficit and then front squats....so leg extensions


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    If I was to drop one, I'd drop leg extensions. Deficit pulls work quads a bit harder than without deficit and then front squats....so leg extensions

    That was my thinking too. Drop leg extensions on deadlift day and drop leg curls on squat day


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,591 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Superset the leg exercises with the core work to free up a but more time


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    5/3/1 cycle 14 week 2 OHP

    37.5kg x 3
    42.5kg x 3
    47.5kg x 3

    42.5kg 5, 5, 8

    Lat pulldown
    45 x 7
    50 x 7
    60 x 5
    70 x 5
    80 x 5
    90 x 5

    Core
    Russian twists +12kg x 4 x 20

    Db shrugs 40kg x 4 x 14

    Lat raises 6kg x 4 x 12
    Db rev flys 6kg x 3 x 15

    Rower 300m x 3 x 50sec rest

    No problems today. Press moved well, very little soreness. Glad to be back at the lat pulldown. Neutral grip bar this time. Some discomfort but not a lot. Dropped the Db Bench for now


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    5/3/1 cycle 14 week 3 squats

    Toe squats to 100kg x 1

    115kg x 5
    130kg x 3
    145kg x 1

    115kg x 3 x 5

    Core
    Sit-ups +20kg x 3 x 20

    Squats were a little slow to start off today but they all went pretty good. Felt a weird pain in my left trap on the warm ups. Buy the time I got to the end of the squats, pain had travelled to my right ass cheek and down to my right toes. Not bad pain but enough to stop me doing any RDL’s. Did some sit-ups and spent the rest of the session rolling out everything that was bothering me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    5/3/1 cycle 14 week 3 Bench Press

    40kg x 8
    50kg x 5

    57.5kg x 5
    65kg x 3
    72.5kg x 1

    62.5kg x 3 x 5

    B.B. row 65kg x 4 x 8

    Core
    Leg raises x 4 x 20

    Db OHP 12kg x 4 x 12
    Db shrugs 40kg x 4 x 15

    Overhead cable pulldown 21 x 3 x 10
    Biceps curls 16kg x 3 x 10
    Tricep pushdowns 19 x 3 x 12

    Bench wasn’t as comfortable as I would’ve hoped today. The weight wasn’t the issue. Still have pain in the shoulder so it’s throwing me off big time.

    Rows were grand.

    I had no idea how the Db press would go. First set were half reps. The last 3 sets were grand full reps. Zero pain.

    Overhead pull downs fry my triceps.

    1 rower broke and 1 occupied so no rowing today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,591 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Is the shoulder actually getting any better?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Is the shoulder actually getting any better?

    It is yes. It’s just sooo slow and up and down. Last week I couldn’t do Db OHP at all. A couple of months I couldn’t bench at all. Progress is slow and frustrating.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,547 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Smolov. Not even once.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    5/3/1 cycle 14 week 3 Deadlift deficit 20mm

    140kg x 5
    160kg x 3
    177.5kg x 1

    150kg x 3 x 5

    Front Squats
    60kg x 5
    80kg x 5
    95kg x 5

    Core
    Side plank raises +12kg x 4 x 12
    Leg curl 45 x 4 x 12 PB i think

    Rower
    300m @41s/m
    300m @44s/m
    400m @47s/m

    A few reps were half RDL’s so I had to be more aware of my starting position as I began to tire. No issues at all with the weight. Hamstrings began to weaken on the last 3x5 but overall a good deadlifting session.

    60 and 80 were fine on the front squats 95 was completed, but 2 or 3 reps were terrible. Elbows down leaning forward kinda bad. Rinse and repeat next time.

    Hamstrings were in bits after the leg curls. Ready to explode I think it was a Pb but only by a couple of reps, so no idea why they got so pumped. Maybe Twas the supersetting.
    Side plank raise are the only ab workout giving me doms.

    I thought the rower would kill me. It didn’t. Fastest splits to date I reckon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,591 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Hamstrings were in bits after the leg curls. Ready to explode I think it was a Pb but only by a couple of reps, so no idea why they got so pumped. Maybe Twas the supersetting.

    Or the fact your hamstrings were knackered at the end of the deadlifts


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Or the fact your hamstrings were knackered at the end of the deadlifts

    True but they were as tired as they always were after deadlifting. Today the curls nearly had them exploding


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Cycle 14 week 3 OHP

    40kg x 5
    45kg x 3
    50kg x 1

    45kg. 5, 5, 8

    Lat pulldown 55, 65, 75, 85, 95 x 5

    Triceps/lat raises x 4 x 12

    Biceps/rev flys x 4 x 12

    Can’t fault my shoulder at al today. It felt great. I decided to drop Db Bench just for today, as not to jinx the shoulder.
    I’m prob happier with the progress from lat pulldown. The injury had really affected it. I should be back at pull ups soon


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    5/3/1 cycle 14 week 4 Squat

    Toe squats to 90kg

    105kg x 5
    120kg x 5
    135kg x 5 PB :)

    117.5kg x 1x 5

    Rdl 130kg x 3 x 5

    Ab wheel rollout 8, 8, 10

    Leg extensions 67.5 x 4 x 10

    That was hard.
    I felt like I wasn’t fully awake. Bad nights sleep.
    135 x 5 was a big pb. I didn’t even reach that on smolov jr. The last 2 were total grinders. Time was getting away from me and legs ready to fall off so I skipped the last 2 drop sets.
    I’m quickly falling out of love with Romain Deadlifts.
    This was my first time back at the ab wheel since my shoulder acted up. Moved pretty well so I’ll up the reps next time
    Rower occupied again. Ffs


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Thanks bluewolf, but I don’t think my workout was THAT good ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    5/3/1 cycle 14 week 4 Benchpres

    Bar x 10
    40kg x 10

    52.5kg x 5
    60kg x 5
    67.5kg x 5

    65kg x 3 x 5

    B.B. row 67.5kg x 4 x 8

    Db OHP
    12kg x 12
    14kg x 10
    14kg x 10

    Db shrugs 40kg x 3 x 15

    Overhead cable pulldown 22.5 x 3 x 12
    Hammer curls 16kg x 3 x 12
    Triceps pushdowns 22.5 x 3 x 12

    Rower
    300m @40m/s
    300m @43m/s
    300m @46+ m/s
    45sec rest

    Shoulder was a bit achey on the 67.5 x 5 so I switched to TnG pressing for the drop sets. I have to say, it helped a little.

    Rows starting to feel heavy now

    Dropped core today cause my tummy hurts from the ab wheel yesterday. Your turn to laugh at me bluewolf. ;)

    Db OHP hurts a lot starting off. So I did 12 half reps with 12kg to loosen up. No problems after that.

    Foot straps kept coming loose on rower. Annoying


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    Oh how the turn tables


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    5/3/1 cycle 14 week 4 Deadlift

    20mm deficit

    130kg x 5
    145kg x 5
    165kg x 5 PB :)

    155kg x 3 x 5 PB :)

    Front squats.
    NO

    Core
    Sit-ups x 4 x 15

    Leg curls 45. 16, 13, 13, 12
    Edit 40 :(

    Rower 1,000m

    Today was a heavy aul day. The most weight/volume I ever did do.
    A couple of PB’s thrown in for good measure too. The last two 155 reps I saw my face go a new shade of red.

    Front squats can kiss my ass. Not today chief. Electric picnic tomorrow and my CNS was fried....moreso the CNS. Need some energy to haul luggage tomorrow.

    Wtf was I thinking doing sit ups with a 20kg kettlebell on my chest/neck.....with existing doms firmly in place. Anywhooo, got through them. Barely. Sore.

    Kinda got carried away with Leg curls. They felt sooo light. Probably the lack of front squats beforehand. Record number of reps. 7 more than my pb last week at 45 WTF!!!!
    Just checked.....it was only set at 40. Excitement over.
    A nice leisurely row down the river. Nothing hectic. Just took in the scenery and nice weather.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    5/3/1 cycle 14 OHP week 4

    37.5kg x 5
    42.5kg x 5
    47.5kg x 5

    45kg 5, 5, 8

    Lat pulldown neutral grip
    50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100 x 6

    Db Bench
    12kg x 10
    14kg x 10
    16kg x 10
    20kg x 10

    Lat raises 6kg x 3 x 12
    Hammer curls 16kg 15, 14, 13, 10
    Triceps pushdowns 24 x 4 x 12

    It’s picnic time.
    OHP moved lovely and 99% pain free which is a huge bonus. Really happy with that.

    Lat pulldown Pb pilling 100 x 6. First time ever putting the pin into 100. It’s neutral grip so easier, but still.....:)

    Wohoooo I can Db Bench again. Mostly pain free. A few awkward steps caused pain but when technique was right there was no pain. I could’ve easily went heavier but common sense told me to cop on for today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    5/3/1 cycle 14 week 5 Squat

    112.5kg x 3
    127.5kg x 3
    140kg x 3 PB :)

    120kg x 3 x 5

    Some leg extensions

    3 days 3 nights of walking, eating, drinking and sleeping In a field. Body in tatters and those squats were a nightmare. I had no business doing my heaviest triple to date....like, EVER! It was probably a better looking set than the 127.5 x 3.
    Surprising easy were the 120 x 3 x 5, which happens to equal my 3 x 5 Pb.
    I was happy just to get out of bed today so the above workout will do just fine


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    5/3/1 cycle 14 week 5 Bench Press

    Bar x 10
    40kg x 8
    50kg x 5

    57.5kg x 3
    65kg x 3
    72.5kg x 5

    67.5kg x 3 x 5

    B.B. row
    60kg x 10
    65kg x 8
    67.5kg x 8
    70kg x 6

    Db OHP
    12kg x 10
    14kg x 10
    16kg x 10

    Overhead pulldown 24 x 3 x 10
    Hammer curls 18kg x 3 x 10
    Tricep pushdowns 24 x 3 x 12

    I decided to switch all reps to TnG. it made a significant difference to the shoulder discomfort, obviously because each rep was quicker. Back to paused as soon as I can.
    The first 2 drop sets were messy. Bar all over the place. I really concentrated on bar path for the final set and it made a huge difference
    Rows were grand. Adjusted the weight up as I went along for a change.
    Db OHP was fine too. On this cycle it’s purely for rehab and building stability.
    Triceps fried once again


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    5/3/1 cycle 14 week 5 Deadlift

    137.5kg x 3
    155kg x 3 (actually 165)
    170kg x 3 equalled PB

    157.5kg x 3 x 5 PB :)

    Front squat
    60kg x 5
    80kg x 5
    90kg x 3
    100kg x 2
    105kg x 1
    110kg x 1

    Pulling what I thought was 155 freaked me out cause it felt much heavier. Turns out I loaded the wrong plates. Duh. Big relief when I realised it was 165.
    Dropset 1 felt sloppy.
    Recorded dropset 2. Wasn’t too bad. Rounded the back which is something I’m gonna have to work on. A couple of PB’s thrown in too for good measure. I’m pretty much at my limit. One slight increase next week and that’s this cycle done with.
    Front squats were moving fine so I went a bit heavier to see where I was at. Not too bad


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