Evil 2017

irishrover99

I think a 22kph average is very doable this year as we do not have the 4 really steep short climbs of last year,(cunard,the wall,red lane,clara vale) and a few dodgy descents that came with them. This year has 2 new longer climbs to replace them and mostly good roads to descend on and i think getting lake drive out of the way towards the start will help keep the average up.

Last year was more for the hard men(man/Daragh) and i think this year suits the climbers more.

godtabh

I did some of the route at the weekend. The first 50km or so is savage with well over 1000m of climbing.

THe climbs are long and steady with nothing like the Vale of Avoca in it which suited me. Getting lost was my biggest issue.

irishrover99

godtabh wrote: »

I did some of the route at the weekend. The first 50km or so is savage with well over 1000m of climbing.

THe climbs are long and steady with nothing like the Vale of Avoca in it which suited me. Getting lost was my biggest issue.

Where did you got lost? Was it in the first 50 km

godtabh

When I got to Larragh for the first time. My garmin kept telling me I was going to wrong way no matter which way I went. Went on memory then which wasnt great either

sbs2010

Hi,

Could someone post a link to the route again?

And if it includes Glencree to Sallygap then we should consider a rerouting, especially if we'd be going north from the gap. The resurfacing work has made the road a disaster.

irishrover99

sbs2010 wrote: »

Hi,

Could someone post a link to the route again?

And if it includes Glencree to Sallygap then we should consider a rerouting, especially if we'd be going north from the gap. The resurfacing work has made the road a disaster.

https://www.strava.com/routes/7220904

It doesn't go up that stretch of road this year so we are fine but I'm sure the road works will be finished by then anyway

Alek

I thought the route has been modified for 5000k elevation at some stage?

irishrover99

Alek wrote: »

I thought the route has been modified for 5000k elevation at some stage?

Not that I can remember. I'm on my phone now so I'll double check when I get back but I'm sure that's it. I can throw in a loop of cruagh/stocking if you want but I think I'll be happy with that amount.

Alek

No worries, I can always throw in 15 reps of Ticknock.

CramCycle

godtabh wrote: »

When I got to Larragh for the first time. My garmin kept telling me I was going to wrong way no matter which way I went. Went on memory then which wasnt great either

Garmins without maps but that have routing eg the Edge 500, often have issues when you have a route that goes over itself. It can often jump forward to a further point in the map and then tell you that you are lost when you continue on the right way. Normally it will self correct but this can often take a few minutes or km.

Alek

I never use routing on Garmins for this reason, tried and found it a sketchy feature at best even on E800.

I simply upload the GPX file and make it visible as a red line, then follow if visually on the map.

Weepsie

Alek wrote: »

I thought the route has been modified for 5000k elevation at some stage?

My suggestion did, as it included Kippure right at the end

https://www.strava.com/routes/7226391

godtabh

CramCycle wrote: »

Garmins without maps but that have routing eg the Edge 500, often have issues when you have a route that goes over itself. It can often jump forward to a further point in the map and then tell you that you are lost when you continue on the right way. Normally it will self correct but this can often take a few minutes or km.

It was an edge 1000

Alek

Kippure at the end is not a bad idea! I'll see when I get there, it wasn't so scary at all at the end of MB200

devonp

Good news: did it
Bad news: doesn't come near the 5000m mark

had a Garmin glitch at Belarmine just 4-5 Km in so went up to Lambs at the end to make this up.
stopped in Blessington for water coffee and a repair to my rear caliper; big thanks to TOMS BIKE shop
stopped again Laragh(first pass) for more food etc and then briefly in Rathdrum and then for a decent sit down meal in Heathers, Laragh(second pass) where i cramped badly at the table...

was lucky with the weather avoided much of the rain, sheltered briefly to avoid 2 large heavy showers

this was my first Evil and i know its much less than last yrs route, but i guess the experienced Evilers will want to do 5000m so Irishrover99 might have to add in a bit!! but as this years guinea-pig(i think) i was following the route given

thanks to IrishRover99 for the drawing up the route( i put it into ridewithgps and edited some of the little glitches i saw)
i did it with a 52/36 front and 12-27 rear, the 36/27 got lots of use!!

safe cycling next week and enjoy the extra 500m

here ya go
https://www.strava.com/activities/1019743074

daragh_

Good stuff. Well done.

Alek

Great stuff devonp!!!

I have 5000m OCD this time so will need to top it up...

I've done 2015 Evil on 34/27 and had massive cramps near the end. Since I've eased the gearing no more problems like that...

irishrover99

Well done Devon. Great spin. I've done that route a few times on different tracking big websites and it's usuall always around the 4750 meter mark.

I cannot manage to get it above 5000 without going up dead ends or it going over 230 km which is then making it too hard for a lot of people and then we will have a small turn out like last year.

manafana

irishrover99 wrote: »

Well done Devon. Great spin. I've done that route a few times on different tracking big websites and it's usuall always around the 4750 meter mark.

I cannot manage to get it above 5000 without going up dead ends or it going over 230 km which is then making it too hard for a lot of people and then we will have a small turn out like last year.

think that point is key, their will be some who love idea of the mad challenge, but yes it needs to be doable time wise, last years was just madness.

daragh_

manafana wrote: »

just madness.

Is that not the point?

"Vous êtes des assassins! Oui, des assassins!'

manafana

daragh_ wrote: »

Is that not the point?

"Vous êtes des assassins! Oui, des assassins!'

then you wonder why no one turns up, its not an audax its a climbing challenge

daragh_

Dude - i think you might be taking this too seriously It's a really elaborate excuse to go for at least 3 coffees.

See you there hopefully.

godtabh

daragh_ wrote: »

Dude - i think you might be taking this too seriously It's a really elaborate excuse to go for at least 3 coffees.

See you there hopefully.

I thought it was to work on our tans?

wanderer 22

Plan to start this ; what time are most people setting off at?

daragh_

7.

Looks like it will be a damp start, warming up later. Plenty of time to dry out.

irishrover99

Not sure if ill be there for bang on 7 so could be about 15-20 minutes late. If so ill bypass the meeting point and catch up with you's hopefully before Wicklow Gap.

daragh_

irishrover99 wrote: »

Not sure if ill be there for bang on 7 so could be about 15-20 minutes late. If so ill bypass the meeting point and catch up with you's hopefully before Wicklow Gap.

Don't mind starting at 7:30 if that suits you better?

Alek

Considering the rain i may also start 7:30. No point getting wet for 1.5h longer than the rest.

irishrover99

Yeah that's fine. Give me more time to get the kids sorted before i'm out the door

smcclaw

7.30 works for me.

Is the start the same as previous years under the bridge in Dundrum? Sorry, didn't see it earlier in the thread.