"Single Mothers" of Ireland and their widespread social welfare fraud

Train Dragon

Mack Clever Reporter wrote: »

I've learned with age that being judgemental just eats you up, achieves nothing and leaves you a bitter individual.

Stereotyping also weakens many arguments.

That's just Irish for "Ah sure it'll be grand!"

Which is what has this country so focked to begin with.

Train Dragon

Train Dragon wrote: »

Because this same mother is now with someone else who has an income and what they're doing is illegal.

???? How do we know this? Does it mean that the children have to suffer? I like to think we're better than that.
Regarding the kids losing their Medical Cards, the parents means are taken into account and that is the usual reason. That's not saying it's right, but a line has to be drawn somewhere. What would you think of, say, Ryanairs Michael O'Leary having a child with special needs. Should he automatically get a medical card?
Children of single parents being supported up to the age of 7 is only fair to the children. There but for the grace of God, etc....

Oodoov

Stheno wrote: »

Have you a link to back up your claim that handicapped children are being denied medical cards?

Handicapped? It's 2016 not 1976.

Oodoov

Single mums are rapid in bed.


That is all.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Train Dragon wrote: »

That's just Irish for "Ah sure it'll be grand!"

Which is what has this country so focked to begin with.

Can't you see, that's just you at it again?

I didn't say I ignore any situations, but all through my life I have tried to do something about issues that concerned or disturbed me.

So, please don't twist my sentiments just to feed your own attitudes.

Train Dragon

Oodoov wrote: »

Single mums are rapid in bed.


That is all.

100% true.

Wheeliebin30

Maybe if their wasn't as much fraud we maybe could have a better health system?

Maybe my kids could grow up in a better country if the money goes to worthy causes?

Professor Moriarty

Train Dragon wrote: »

100% true.

I know a single mother well. She's a respectable and law-abiding woman who loves her child much. Hopes to go back to work when her child goes to school. She's an admirable human being.

Knine

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Maybe if their wasn't as much fraud we maybe could have a better health system?

Maybe my kids could grow up in a better country if the money goes to worthy causes?

Or maybe your kids could grow up in a single parent family. Nobody knows what is around the corner. There will always be couples willing to commit fraud. These are certainly not single parents so the title is misleading.

Sleeper12

Train Dragon wrote:

Can anyone tell me how it's so acceptable in this country for mothers to collect thousands of euros a year when they're still living with their partners so openly? It's theft and they seem to have absolutely no shame about it.

There's a hell of a lot more men working and getting the dole then single mums breaking the rules.

Wheeliebin30

Sleeper12 wrote: »

There's a hell of a lot more men working and getting the dole then single mums breaking the rules.

What about when the two are together but "not together"?:)

Knine

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

What about when the two are together but "not together"?:)

Then it is a couple committing fraud & certainly not a 'Single mother'

Train Dragon

Sleeper12 wrote: »

There's a hell of a lot more men working and getting the dole then single mums breaking the rules.

Link to said stats?

Arcade_Tryer

This thread could not be more Irish if it tried.

Anti woman? Check

Anti child? Check

Anti poor people? Check

Perpetuating the punishment of poor people and those at risk of poverty under the disguise of civic responsibility? Check mate!

Also, LOL at the indignation of the anti "handicapped" usage people. You'd swear posters were referring to them as retards given some of the reactions.

petrolcan

Knine wrote: »

Handicapped is offensive. If somebody used that term to describe my daughter I would be very offended.

Only if you take offence.

It is no longer an acceptable way of describing someone with a disability.

Wholeheartedly agree with this.

Oodoov

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

This thread could not be more Irish if it tried.

Anti woman? Check

Anti child? Check

Anti poor people? Check

Perpetuating the punishment of poor people and those at risk of poverty under the disguise of civic responsibility? Check mate!

Also, LOL at the indignation of the anti "handicapped" usage people. You'd swear posters were referring to them as retards given some of the reactions.

If you worked in the sector you'd know it's very offensive.

MadDog76

eviltwin wrote: »

Single mothers are allowed have relationships you know. Just not live with their partners. Those that do are not single mothers defrauding the system, it's a couple defrauding the system.

Here's a question, and bear in mind that I don't know much about how the whole Social Welfare thing works, if a single Mother of say two kids meets a partner and they start a relationship etc. which progresses to them living together, and maybe having a child of their own, is she still entitled to Single Mother's Allowance?
If not, why not?? Does the State insist that her partner take on the financial responsibility for two children that he may not be willing to take on?

Knine

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

Also, LOL at the indignation of the anti "handicapped" usage people. You'd swear posters were referring to them as retards given some of the reactions.

Them are actually people. One of those 'them' is actually my daughter. There is nothing funny about it. The term is no longer used as it is offensive, nearly as offensive as you finding it funny.

L'prof

Was very confused on reading thread title. Read it as: "Single Mothers" of Ireland and their widespread social media fraud

eeguy

Dept of social welfare have a number you can call to report fraud.

Why don't you call that instead of posting here?

Do something about it instead of complaining.

Arcade_Tryer

Oodoov wrote: »

If you worked in the sector you'd know it's very offensive.

That's fine. However most people don't work in the sector. And so suggesting that someone who uses the term 'handicapped' is somehow way out of touch with society and social norms, as some posters here were suggesting, is slightly ridiculous.

foggy_lad

MadDog76 wrote: »

Here's a question, and bear in mind that I don't know much about how the whole Social Welfare thing works, if a single Mother of say two kids meets a partner and they start a relationship etc. which progresses to them living together, and maybe having a child of their own, is she still entitled to Single Mother's Allowance?
If not, why not?? Does the State insist that her partner take on the financial responsibility for two children that he may not be willing to take on?

No she is no longer single if she is in a "common law" relationship and is no longer entitled to the SPFP.

As for the children, it is up to the mother to chase the father for maintenance for their children and to take him to court if necessary to enforce any maintenance order.

steddyeddy

Given how the state has historically treated single mothers I'll refrain from having a go at them. Some of the hardest working people I know are single mothers.

Ken.

Mod-and were done here. There are people in this thread who should be ashamed of themselves. Further sanctions are not being ruled out.