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A Charity You Respect ?

  • 19-12-2016 11:34am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,001 ✭✭✭✭


    It is a time of year that you think of giving to others. Looking for a bit of help with something.

    And fair pay to the SSF above doing amazing stuff.

    But the charity sector has been rocked the last few years.

    Does anyone know and name a few charities that they still have incredible respect for and still have 100 % confidence in.

    Is terrible what a few bad eggs have done.

    Maybe AH not the place for this - but you get honest opinions here.

    Always had an impression that SVP are unbelievably good ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,354 ✭✭✭ChippingSodbury


    Hi,
    I'd agree with SVP. I also do a fair bit for Debra Ireland. They're a small charity and are run very well. Their Patient Ambassador, Emma Fogarty won Person of the Year a few years ago. She's been dealt a really tough hand in life but she is one of the most positive and inspirational people I've ever had the privilege of meeting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,325 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    MSF. They go to the worst hellholes on the planet and put their lives on the line to help people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Parchment


    I do not respect or donate to any charity with religious affiliations.

    I have huge respect for and donate to Doctors Without Borders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,001 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Grayson wrote: »
    MSF. They go to the worst hellholes on the planet and put their lives on the line to help people.

    Yes - always amazed with them - need something more local. Dublin area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,750 ✭✭✭degsie


    Lost some faith in charities, from aggressive street collectors to dodgy officials :(

    SVP I still have some trust in.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    The trouble is the SVP is that their policy seems to be that anyone who asks for a handout gets a handout. And that sadly leaves them open to chancers who just keep asking and getting from them.
    SVP used to be my charity of choice but not anymore for that reason.
    Faith in the whole charity sector is gone. I just give to local community causes now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,001 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Seen this and as told about them


    http://www.aoibhneas.org/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    The SVP so good work but it's the chancers that abuse it that let it down, for every asshole that drunk their dole leaving no money for food for the wains there's a genuine case too proud or too ashamed to ask for help, but you can't blame the charity for that.


    The RNLI is the only charity I donate to, apart from local community and sports organisations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Winterlong wrote: »
    The trouble is the SVP is that their policy seems to be that anyone who asks for a handout gets a handout. And that sadly leaves them open to chancers who just keep asking and getting from them.
    SVP used to be my charity of choice but not anymore for that reason.
    Faith in the whole charity sector is gone. I just give to local community causes now.

    I dont see that as a negative.

    Charities dont need to Vet the needy. They are not social welfare.

    If you have to humble yourself and ask then you deserve it in my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭mahoganygas


    I mentioned my mistrust of SVP in another thread and got absolutely torn to shreds.

    Some people's faith in SVP is almost pious.

    I urge anyone who is giving to a charity to research where that donation is going. Better yet, get personally involved.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'd only give to non Irish charities.

    I dunno, I just suspect that behind pretty much any national charity now, there is a person or people just coining it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,691 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    RNLI , a model of selfless dedication and just people being awsome

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Another for the SVP here. I have some experience of the local folks and they put in the hours and effort. The Samaritans another.
    If you have to humble yourself and ask then you deserve it in my opinion.
    You think that because you're not a chancer with a neck as hard as diamond. Those kinda people have zero humility or "shame" when it comes to free stuff.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I dont see that as a negative.

    Charities dont need to Vet the needy. They are not social welfare.

    If you have to humble yourself and ask then you deserve it in my opinion.

    Needy for a bottle of Smirnoff and twenty Mayfair doesn't equal needy for food and heat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    The SVP so good work but it's the chancers that abuse it that let it down, for every asshole that drunk their dole leaving no money for food for the wains there's a genuine case too proud or too ashamed to ask for help, but you can't blame the charity for that.


    I know a woman that does exactly that. She's a friend of my missus.She was up in ours last Christmas complaining that the svp only gave her a voucher for the supermarket.She called them 'miserable bastards'.I really wanted to boot her in the face :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,001 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    I know a woman that does exactly that. She's a friend of my missus.She was up in ours last Christmas complaining that the svp only gave her a voucher for the supermarket.She called them 'miserable bastards'.I really wanted to boot her in the face :mad:

    :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I know a woman that does exactly that. She's a friend of my missus.She was up in ours last Christmas complaining that the svp only gave her a voucher for the supermarket.She called them 'miserable bastards'.I really wanted to boot her in the face :mad:

    The local butcher here cooks the turkeys for the SVP and delivers them personally on Christmas morning so they can't be exchanged for a carryout somewhere the day before. Lot more work for him but at least he knows his donation is doing what it's supposed to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,729 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    RNLI

    They are not just helping someone out, they are putting their own life at risk to help someone out, and sadly in many cases, have lost their life in the act of trying to save others.

    Christmas opening hours: On call 24/7 365 days a year.

    The volunteers show immense bravery in what they do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    The local butcher here cooks the turkeys for the SVP and delivers them personally on Christmas morning so they can't be exchanged for a carryout somewhere the day before. Lot more work for him but at least he knows his donation is doing what it's supposed to.

    Thats more sensible,but not entirely flawless.The people who really need help would rather get help confidentially you'd imagine,so in a rural locale it wouldn't be ideal.The butcher for a start would know who was getting a dig out,the baker would soon catch wind of it and it wouldn't take long before the candlestick maker was also in on the act.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Winterlong wrote: »
    The trouble is the SVP is that their policy seems to be that anyone who asks for a handout gets a handout. And that sadly leaves them open to chancers who just keep asking and getting from them.
    SVP used to be my charity of choice but not anymore for that reason.
    Faith in the whole charity sector is gone. I just give to local community causes now.
    I dont see that as a negative.

    Charities dont need to Vet the needy. They are not social welfare.

    If you have to humble yourself and ask then you deserve it in my opinion.

    Very little time for the vinnies - they probably do some good alright, as in their heart is in the right place, but that's just not enough, by and large they are just taken for a ride by chancers. I wouldn't give them two pence.

    Laura lynne childrens hospice, for the simple reason that I just can't imagine a harder job in the world than to work in a place like that. I wouldn't be able, and I hope to god I never even have to set foot in the place.
    I have nothing but admiration for the people who keep a place like that going.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Thats more sensible,but not entirely flawless.The people who really need help would rather get help confidentially you'd imagine,so in a rural locale it wouldn't be ideal.The butcher for a start would know who was getting a dig out,the baker would soon catch wind of it and it wouldn't take long before the candlestick maker was also in on the act.

    Well yeah, the butcher in this case is a SVP volunteer anyway but I know what you mean.

    The sad truth is that a large number of those most in need of the help of the SVP never approach them at all, regardless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭Arrow in the Knee


    Can't stand Amnesty International for the way they collect on the streets.

    I'm more likely to donate to someone sitting down at a table and not hassling me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Inner City Helping Homeless. Although in the past year they don't seem connfined to the inner city. I regularly drop off food, toiletries and clothes with them and sometimes throughout the year donate money. They are operating on the frontline of the homeless issue and are always so grateful of donations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭childsplay


    The RNLI, family Carers Ireland and SVP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭mahoganygas


    What's the craic with the lads collecting for Irish soup kitchens. Are they legit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    What's the craic with the lads collecting for Irish soup kitchens. Are they legit?

    There is a thread somewhere about them. Personally I wouldn't give them the time of day.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    MSF have been criticised heavily by Frontex, the European Borders Agency, for essentially "colluding" with smugglers in the Mediterranean. https://www.ft.com/content/3e6b6450-c1f7-11e6-9bca-2b93a6856354

    I give to the Simon community and SVP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,269 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Basecamp in Middle Abbey Street had a great charity system set up in their store yesterday. Beside the checkout they had a good sleeping bag which you could buy for €25 when paying for your goods which they'd then pass on to one of the homeless charities (Peter McVerry, Simon etc.).

    Was in getting a Christmas present for the Father in Law who's into outdoors stuff and added one to the shopping. It's a great way to be able to directly help, safe in the knowledge that your donation can't be siphoned off into obscene wages for some insider's wife's hobby.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    RNLI

    They are not just helping someone out, they are putting their own life at risk to help someone out, and sadly in many cases, have lost their life in the act of trying to save others.

    Christmas opening hours: On call 24/7 365 days a year.

    The volunteers show immense bravery in what they do.

    CEO makes a nice Stg£150k per annum.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 603 ✭✭✭_Jamie_


    My parent's local county SPCA does wonders on a shoestring. I'd imagine many of the other SPCAs across the country are similar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    CEO makes a nice Stg£150k per annum.

    About a quarter of one day of their yearly budget. I can live with that, and I'm sure anyone that knows anything about the great work they do can


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭witchgirl26


    For me it's St.Francis Hospice or Harold's Cross Hospice. The work they do is amazing (having witnessed it first hand) and the charitable donations really do keep the place going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,545 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    CEO makes a nice Stg£150k per annum.

    So what?

    Do you realise how little money this is a for a CEO?

    Do you see how big the RNLI is?

    Do you not understand that they would not be as successful if not managed proplerly?

    The notion that people should not be paid for working for a charity is ridiculous.


  • Registered Users Posts: 573 ✭✭✭Snakeweasel


    SVP services chancers exclusively in our area. (well maybe not exclusively) but the vast majority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Winterlong wrote: »
    The trouble is the SVP is that their policy seems to be that anyone who asks for a handout gets a handout. And that sadly leaves them open to chancers who just keep asking and getting from them.
    SVP used to be my charity of choice but not anymore for that reason.
    Faith in the whole charity sector is gone. I just give to local community causes now.

    A friend helped deliver some svp hampers two years ago and aparrently quite a few had alcohol in them, it was purchased too not donated.
    I wouldn't give money to be spent on Alcohol.

    SOSAD is a local group I do some work with and have huge respect for what they do.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭Laois_Man


    Ronald McDonald House have a network of centers across the World and one at Crumlin hospital in Dublin

    They were a huge help to me and my family when my daughter was seriously sick in Crumlin hospital. The families who stay there (24 every day) get bed, a lot of their meals cooked by volunteers, the other normal facilities they would have at home (food storage, laundry etc etc) and only pay €10 per day and it costs over €400,000 per year to run it - making a shortfall of around €325,000 per year. And I don't know how we would have managed without them.

    Furthermore, they are building a new facility more than twice as big (to hold 53 families) at the site of the new National Children's Hospital to open in 2020 which will cost a lot more to run and also has a building cost of around €16 Million which the charity has to raise themselves.

    Please donate if you can.

    http://rmhc.ie/how-can-you-help/donate-make-a-payment/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    The Donkey Sanctuary.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,570 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    _Brian wrote: »
    A friend helped deliver some svp hampers two years ago and aparrently quite a few had alcohol in them, it was purchased too not donated.
    I wouldn't give money to be spent on Alcohol.

    SOSAD is a local group I do some work with and have huge respect for what they do.

    It is possible to be poor and not be an alcoholic. If there's a bottle of wine or a can of beer in the hamper I don't se the problem. I have no issue with a poor person having a glass of beer with his/her Christmas dinner just like the rest of us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Parchment


    _Brian wrote: »
    A friend helped deliver some svp hampers two years ago and aparrently quite a few had alcohol in them, it was purchased too not donated.
    I wouldn't give money to be spent on Alcohol.

    SOSAD is a local group I do some work with and have huge respect for what they do.

    Totally agree that alcohol should not be supplied. I wouldn't give SVP a penny anyway, I love how they decided to rebrand to SVP once the catholic church fell out of favour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    I forgot to mention Dog's Trust in my first post.


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  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MSF/Doctors without Borders, Simon in Ireland, and a few others that do unglamorous and thankless work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,545 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    What is wrong with a bottle of wine in a Christmas hamper. Just because people are needy does not mean that they can't have a drink if given.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    This is a charity I have great respect for. So many people count on the services of Bro. Kevin and the Day Centre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭ncmc


    Double post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭ncmc


    My husband works in grocery retail, his store was approached by SVP some years back to provide vouchers that would be given to the needy. At the time, their shop didn’t do vouchers, so they were made up specially. He said it was disheartening to see how many of them were redeemed on tobacco, alcohol and lotto. They actually added a line to the T&C’s the next year that they were food only. I know SVP does an awful lot of good work, but as others have said, there are a lot of chancers and I’ve always been a bit slower to give to them since then. .

    I tend to give mainly to animal charities, there are some small rescues round the country doing amazing work. I really admire the work Peter McVerry and Penny Dinners do too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,068 ✭✭✭LoonyLovegood


    Mine would be MSF, the DCM Homeless Ministry, and Teach Solais LGBT resource centre.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    I have a standing donation order to the SVP, so those guys. Also huge respect to the Simon charity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    About a quarter of one day of their yearly budget. I can live with that, and I'm sure anyone that knows anything about the great work they do can

    That's over 200 million a year?

    I had no idea they were that size!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Butters1979


    Dog's Trust and ISPCA for me, I give monthly to both. I like dogs and can't stand animal cruelty. And as a bonus, instead of aggressive street collectors they tend to just sit around in Grafton street with a bunch of dogs you can play with.

    I have to admit I haven't really researched exactly if they're dodgy at all. I hope not. Anyone know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,766 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Winterlong wrote: »
    The trouble is the SVP is that their policy seems to be that anyone who asks for a handout gets a handout. And that sadly leaves them open to chancers who just keep asking and getting from them.
    SVP used to be my charity of choice but not anymore for that reason.
    Faith in the whole charity sector is gone. I just give to local community causes now.

    Yes.

    SVP policy is not to question the potential recipients.

    Given the nature of Irish society, this is extremely naive.

    As a result, I can not support them.


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