Everton vs Liverpool, 8pm, Sky Sports 1

Jayop

Andersonisgod wrote: »

It's fast and physical but it's a game (thus far) that epitomises why English sides fail so often in Europe. There's no nuance or pattern to it at all.

And it typifies why the premier league is the most watched in the world, not boring ould ****e like most European games.

Ardent

Terrible centre forward play by origi

martyos121

I see Sturridge warming up. Is that line in his hair to make him go faster? Hopefully.

GreNoLi

Not one world class player on the pitch by my reckoning.

Osmosis Jones

Wijnaldum has such a lack of composure

Andersonisgod

DrumSteve wrote: »

Aggression and Pressure are equally valid tactics.

They are but they must be mixed with skill and composure. So far there's none of that and that's why teams from this country fail. I don't want to make this into a "English teams are bad in Europe" thread but if I'm Koeman or Klopp at half time I'd be furious with my players.

5starpool

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Liverpool playing the occasion so far, hopefully Everton will start to wilt. Coleman needs more marking

I know what you're trying to say I think, but surely it is Everton who are playing the occasion.

Andersonisgod

Jayop wrote: »

And it typifies why the premier league is the most watched in the world, not boring ould ****e like most European games.

Ratings over success is your argument.

Osmosis Jones

Getting a foot back into the game now, our fullbacks haven't been good on attack or defence though.

cunnifferous

Origi looking very poor. Anyone on the bench?

DrumSteve

Andersonisgod wrote: »

They are but they must be mixed with skill and composure. So far there's none of that and that's why teams from this country fail. I don't want to make this into a "English teams are bad in Europe" thread but if I'm Koeman or Klopp at half time I'd be furious with my players.

In a derby? A high pressure gameplan can negate both those facets.

Though I doubt Everton can keep this intensity going all game.

eagle eye

It's a very entertaining game so far without any real clear cut chances. The pace that it's being played at is blistering, fantastic to watch.

Osmosis Jones

Origi's scuffed that so badly.

5starpool

Best chance of the game there for Origi. Could have done better, but it was difficult. Better.

martyos121

Lallana finding his feet now, when he plays well, we click.

Agent Coulson

cunnifferous wrote: »

Origi looking very poor. Anyone on the bench?

Woodburn

daingeanrob

close!!

Osmosis Jones

everton with the first of surely many handball shouts tonight

~Rebel~

Oof, good bit of football there. Pool much more involved now.

Jayop

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Ratings over success is your argument.

You spout some mad amount of bollocks, but here, have some facts to shut you up.

"English sides fail so often in Europe" is your stance.

More English sides than any sides from any other country have won the European Cup - 5 (spain 2, Italy 3, German 3)

English sides are joint second in the most European ups of all time only behind Spain. (Spain 16, England and Italy 12, Germany 7)

So the simple bare facts of how English sides do in Europe completely compromises your opinion.

Toddle off there and talk nonsense elsewhere.

martingriff

sabat wrote: »

You forgot match abandoned if Everton get 5 red cards

Is that not an automatic win for Liverpool

Harry Palmr

Tricky one, Average will score.

cunnifferous

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Woodburn

Did he get that from sitting on the bench?:cool:

Harry Palmr

Coleman has a bit of a gob on him

kingshankly

Origi has had a nightmare so far

Andersonisgod

Jayop wrote: »

You spout some mad amount of bollocks, but here, have some facts to shut you up.

"English sides fail so often in Europe" is your stance.

More English sides than any sides from any other country have won the European Cup - 5 (spain 2, Italy 3, German 3)

English sides are joint second in the most European ups of all time only behind Spain. (Spain 16, England and Italy 12, Germany 7)

So the simple bare facts of how English sides do in Europe completely compromises your opinion.

Toddle off there and talk nonsense elsewhere.

And how's that been going for English sides in the last 4-5 years? Anyway, I won't continue, my point is made and this brand of football does not lead to European success.

GreNoLi

Coutinho clearly liverpool's most important player, big miss.

Harry Palmr

Andersonisgod wrote: »

And how's that been going for English sides in the last 4-5 years? Anyway, I won't continue, my point is made and this brand of football does not lead to European success.

It's a fecking meat and potatoes local derby. It's not quality friendly!

lawred2

Two poor sides

Jayop

Andersonisgod wrote: »

And how's that been going for English sides in the last 4-5 years? Anyway, I won't continue, my point is made and this brand of football does not lead to European success.

Good boy, pathetic answer there with some arbitrary time frame you come up with the try to make an argument that is in reality pure and utter ****e.

More English teams have won the European cup than teams from any other country so clearly it hasn't held them back.

DrumSteve

Andersonisgod wrote: »

And how's that been going for English sides in the last 4-5 years? Anyway, I won't continue, my point is made and this brand of football does not lead to European success.

Why only use they last 4-5 years?

English football hasn't changed massively in that time.

radiata

I hope Klopp brings on Emre Can for 2nd half, much prefer him over Wijnaldum

Agent Coulson

cunnifferous wrote: »

Did he get that from sitting on the bench?:cool:

If Daniel got it he'd be out for 6 months.

GavRedKing

Funes Mori should be getting that on target

5starpool

Jayop wrote: »

Good boy, pathetic answer there with some arbitrary time frame you come up with the try to make an argument that is in reality pure and utter ****e.

As opposed to what in his normal posting style? It always suits the particular point only.

Osmosis Jones

Clear shirt pull regardless of the tackle.

Jayop

DrumSteve wrote: »

Why only use they last 4-5 years?

English football hasn't changed massively in that time.

Because he just got owned and his bull**** more exposed than even normally so he reverts to coming up with arbitrary time frames.

Next he'll be saying we don't understand the intricacies of proper European football.

SlickRic

What are the fans moaning about? He fouled him twice.

Andersonisgod

DrumSteve wrote: »

Why only use they last 4-5 years?

English football hasn't changed massively in that time.

It councides nicely with the decline in the top English teams (eg. what you are watching this evening) and strides forward being made by Spanish (particularly) and German sides.

5starpool

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Clear shirt pull regardless of the tackle.

Not that either commentator noticed it somehow.

Osmosis Jones

That's a really bad cross

Osmosis Jones

5starpool wrote: »

Not that either commentator noticed it somehow.

English players don't pull shirts.

niallo27

Who hit that ****en free kick. ****en shocking limp effort.

Jayop

5starpool wrote: »

As opposed to what in his normal posting style? It always suits the particular point only.

I just find i funny that in a thread containing mostly Liverpool fans you have this buck saying they wouldn't understand what it takes to win in Europe. Irony.

Agent Coulson

Awful half of football.


I blame Sky for it all with there stupid build up titles for the matches.

kingshankly

1 minute me hole should be 3 at least
Turning out like the last Monday night game sky gave the big up

GavRedKing

Steklenburg wasnt great under no pressure. No need to punch that away.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Exciting match, helter skelter but lacking in a bit of quality in fairness.

Andersonisgod

Jayop wrote: »

I just find i funny that in a thread containing mostly Liverpool fans you have this buck saying they wouldn't understand what it takes to win in Europe. Irony.

Last victory was in 2005 so hardly a model of recent European success.

Osmosis Jones

Milner should not be trusted with taking our free kicks, his crosses are brutal.