Everton vs Liverpool, 8pm, Sky Sports 1

No goals but an entertaining 45 mins for the more discerning football fan
Is Firmino playing in the back 3 or the front 3 :pac:

niallo27

Andersonisgod wrote: »

It councides nicely with the decline in the top English teams (eg. what you are watching this evening) and strides forward being made by Spanish (particularly) and German sides.

This football is very similar to the football played when English teams dominated the CL.

DrumSteve

Andersonisgod wrote: »

It councides nicely with the decline in the top English teams (eg. what you are watching this evening) and strides forward being made by Spanish (particularly) and German sides.

Chelsea won it 4 years ago, so I'm failing to see your point.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Jayop wrote: »

And it typifies why the premier league is the most watched in the world, not boring ould ****e like most European games.

You obviously don't watch the other leagues that often.

Osmosis Jones

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Last victory was in 2005 so hardly a model of recent European success.

Come on, it's an Everton vs Liverpool match thread, why not make a separate thread if you feel so strongly about this?

BorneTobyWilde

No fighters in our side
Have we made a tackle yet ?
Poor stuff

Andersonisgod

niallo27 wrote: »

This football is very similar to the football played when English teams dominated the CL.

I'd say it was played with more skill then and with a higher quality of player at the top English sides. I'd also say that football has changed fairly significantly since then.

Jayop

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Last victory was in 2005 so hardly a model of recent European success.

Joint 3rd highest cup winner.

Your points are all arbitratory nonsense. Liverpool not having won it for 11 years is an indication of nothing.

Barca didn't win it for 24 years.
Real didn't win it for 33 years.
United didn't win it for 31 years.
Bayern didn't win it for 35 years.

It's a hard cup to win on a consistent basis and teams go through spells where they do well in it. 5 years is a nonsense timescale when you're talking about something like this.

Andersonisgod

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Come on, it's an Everton vs Liverpool match thread, why not make a separate thread if you feel so strongly about this?

I'm trying to stop talking about it but people pressing the point. I won't post about it again aftet this.

Jayop

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

You obviously don't watch the other leagues that often.

I didn't mention the other leagues. I said European football which was clearly referring to the CL and EL.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Jayop wrote: »

Joint 3rd highest cup winner.

Your points are all arbitratory nonsense. Liverpool not having won it for 11 years is an indication of nothing.

Barca didn't win it for 14 years.
Real didn't win it for 32 years.
United didn't win it for 31 years.
Bayern didn't win it for 25 years.

It's a hard cup to win on a consistent basis and teams go through spells where they do well in it. 5 years is a nonsense timescale when you're talking about something like this.

FYP

Jayop

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

FYP

Correct. Math make me stupid.

SuperTortoise

Everton on top first half but no real quality so far.

niallo27

Andersonisgod wrote: »

I'd say it was played with more skill then and with a higher quality of player at the top English sides. I'd also say that football has changed fairly significantly since then.

It goes through cycles though. I think we will see the English game going through a period of dominance again in the next ten years.

GreNoLi

Poor game.

5starpool

I hope we can get a bit more of the play in the second half. We could really do with winning this game for a few reasons. Hopefully we'll have more gas in the tank the last 30 mins. It'd be nice timing for Sturridge to get his first league goal in ages.

SuperTortoise

Need Can early in the second half. He'll add some positivity in the middle and he's not afraid to stick the foot in.

Andersonisgod

niallo27 wrote: »

It goes through cycles though. I think we will see the English game going through a period of dominance again in the next ten years.

With the coaches present in England and the money at their disposal you'd think that should naturally be the case but I do feel that the landscape of English football just isn't conducive to it.

Anyway in regards the match, Liverpool looked a bit better when Firmino went central and linked up play a bit between the lines. Clyne and Milner must do more to drive the Everton full backs back into their own half.

GreNoLi

Hold on ref, need un petit cafe first.

TitianGerm

Andersonisgod wrote: »

I'm trying to stop talking about it but people pressing the point. I won't post about it again aftet this.

It's very easy to stop. Just don't hit the reply button!!

ElTel

SuperTortoise wrote: »

Need Can early in the second half. He'll add some positivity in the middle and he's not afraid to stick the foot in.

Who comes off though?. Lovren is the free man all the time but it would be a brave move to replace him with Can and reshuffle.

Liamalone

Uh oh, McCarthy off, Barry on.

Jayop

emmetkenny wrote: »

It's very easy to stop. Just don't hit the reply button!!

If a mod could pull it into a separate thread it might help.

nice_guy80

quick. put money on Barry to get a yellow card

Gavlor

Liamalone wrote: »

Uh oh, McCarthy off, Barry on.

'Sake

Osmosis Jones

All the time in the world, edge of the box, and Milner floats that awful cross in

5starpool

Should have scored.

Osmosis Jones

how have we not scored there, Firmino scuffs it and then lallana blocks mane

ElTel

ElTel wrote: »

Who comes off though?. Lovren is the free man all the time but it would be a brave move to replace him with Can and reshuffle.

Wij'

BorneTobyWilde

Neither keeper has had a save to make

Osmosis Jones

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

how have we not scored there, Firmino scuffs it ..........

Seriously tough one to put away to be fair

GavRedKing

Everton against the ropes.

Slattsy

Need Sturridge on asap

kingshankly

Hilarious from firmino there had to score

Gavlor

Brutal start from Everton

Osmosis Jones

Seriously poor play from both our fullbacks

BorneTobyWilde

Hope Sturridge gets on the bitch at some point during the game

martyos121

What on earth has happened to Bobby Firmino?

SlickRic

Firmino seems to think he has fúcking ages on the ball.

GreNoLi

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Hope Sturridge gets on the bitch at some point during the game

I know what you mean.

niallo27

Get sturridge on at least he will have a shot.

5starpool

martyos121 wrote: »

What on earth has happened to Bobby Firmino?

Missing his buddy too much.

Sono

As derbies go this is atrocious

martyos121

martyos121 wrote: »

What on earth has happened to Bobby Firmino?

He scored lots of goals early in the season, it was unsustainable.
He'll get scoring again no doubt.

Osmosis Jones

Any time Everton get it we have to rely on our defence to stop them, our midfield just get bypassed so easily.

GreNoLi

Lovren's tattoos are incoherent.

BorneTobyWilde

Dead log for the keeper
Ouch

5starpool

Sono wrote: »

As derbies go this is atrocious

It's far from atrocious. It is very short on real quality, but it is frantic and high tempo. It's certainly not boring like the Liverpool Utd match was, even if the score is the same so far.

That was crucial from baines. Keeper too slow to come out

Jayop

I'm enjoying it as a neutral.