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Medical consultant and certification of attendance

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  • 19-12-2016 1:16pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭


    Got an appointment with a medical consultant last week.

    Had to miss work due to it. Work have no issue with me going during the day.

    So I ask for cert for missing work due to appointment and he goes he doesn't issue cert. I forgot to ask on the day as mind was a little frazzled

    If he doesn't issue certs then it should be made cleared on the appointment sheet he doesn't do it. I've never had this issue before.

    Anyway of appealing this?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    I have never heard of a consultant issuing a sick cert. A cert states you are unable to work for a period due to illness. An appointment is not an illness.

    His secretary might give a note confirming you were there but they wouldn't issue a cert.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Sorry. Nothing to say I was present bar a nice receipt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,983 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Trampas wrote: »
    Sorry. Nothing to say I was present bar a nice receipt.

    Ring the secretary and ask for a note confirming the appointment time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭Miaireland


    His secretary should give you a bote say that you attended the Consultant. However check with work. They might accept the appointment letter and copy of receipt instead.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,763 ✭✭✭C3PO


    Miaireland wrote: »
    His secretary should give you a note say that you attended the Consultant.

    Why should they?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Trampas


    He won't. His rules.

    The consultant who referred me to him is going to give me a letter to cover it.

    I've got one consultant who is nice as rang to see how I got on and another one who was cold and not nice to deal with.

    You pay these people enough and some don't care.

    Of course the cold one is going to do a procedure which requires some recovery. Probably send me back to work that afternoon


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭Miaireland


    Sorry I think I am using should in a different context than you are reading it.
    Most would be happy to give you a note confirming you attended the Clinic or even just write it on the receipt. I did not mean should as in have to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭whippet


    Were you actually sick?

    Sick notes cover when your are laid up and can't work. By the sounds of this you had an appointment which was scheduled ... so rather than a sick note youshoild be taking a days annual leave?

    If any of my employees were using sick days to attend appointments I'd be fairly annoyed by it


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Trampas


    whippet wrote: »
    Were you actually sick?

    Sick notes cover when your are laid up and can't work. By the sounds of this you had an appointment which was scheduled ... so rather than a sick note youshoild be taking a days annual leave?

    If any of my employees were using sick days to attend appointments I'd be fairly annoyed by it

    I'm not laid up but I need a procedure to fix an ongoing issue.

    Doctor sent me to a consultant. Consultant sent me to a more specialist.

    Employer doesn't have an issue with it.

    The issue is if a consultant doesn't issue cert/letter of attendance then should you be informed before confirming an appointment. That is all I'm asking about.

    Just means the person booking the appointment is aware of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭Miaireland


    In your cases it sounds like you will require MC1 and MC2 forms so your employer or you can claim sick pay from the Social Welfare. These are not issued to Consultants in most cases so therefore he cannot give them to you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    Miaireland wrote: »
    In your cases it sounds like you will require MC1 and MC2 forms so your employer or you can claim sick pay from the Social Welfare. These are not issued to Consultants in most cases so therefore he cannot give them to you.

    Can't claim for one day's absence. Used to be 3 days but now it's 5 successive days afaik


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,763 ✭✭✭C3PO


    Trampas wrote: »

    The issue is if a consultant doesn't issue cert/letter of attendance then should you be informed before confirming an appointment. That is all I'm asking about.

    Just means the person booking the appointment is aware of it.

    I have never heard of a consultant issuing a cert/letter of attendance - why would they?


  • Registered Users Posts: 880 ✭✭✭Arbie


    1 - Attendance cert: a note from the doc saying you attended A&E/appointment/procedure on X date at Y time. Consultants give these out all the time for people who need it for work or college as some people can take this as sick leave. This sounds like what the OP was after. The consultant may have misunderstood and thought OP wanted one of the notes below.

    2 - Sick note: a note from a doc saying "Patient is unfit for work for X days", often given by GP rather than consultant. There is no official form or template, it is just a short note from the doc. Sometimes consultant will give them for 1st few days and then GP would need to extend. These notes are generally for employers/college to verify that you are indeed sick and entitled to time off, etc.

    3 - Medical cert = sick cert = MC1/MC2: this is a specific social welfare form that entitles you to sick pay. This is given by your GP rather than the consultant.

    So basically, you would normally get 1 (and maybe 2) from consultant but 2 + 3 from GP.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    In my place if I get a letter with an appointment to go to the hospital I just show them the letter and that suffices. Even an appointment card would do.

    I think for MC1 and MC2 forms its still 3+ days :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 69,024 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    C3PO wrote: »
    I have never heard of a consultant issuing a cert/letter of attendance - why would they?

    For employers who require them to pay sick or other leave for employees. Not uncommon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 720 ✭✭✭FrStone


    whippet wrote: »
    Were you actually sick?

    Sick notes cover when your are laid up and can't work. By the sounds of this you had an appointment which was scheduled ... so rather than a sick note youshoild be taking a days annual leave?

    If any of my employees were using sick days to attend appointments I'd be fairly annoyed by it

    Of course you use sick leave to go to a medical appointment. That's a common enough thing to do. In other places, you might put it down as personal appointment leave. I've never heard of anyone taking annual leave to go to a medical appointment...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    FrStone wrote: »
    Of course you use sick leave to go to a medical appointment. That's a common enough thing to do. In other places, you might put it down as personal appointment leave. I've never heard of anyone taking annual leave to go to a medical appointment...

    I've news for you - plenty of people attend medical appointments on their own time; be it annual leave or outside working hours.


  • Registered Users Posts: 69,024 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    FrStone wrote: »
    Of course you use sick leave to go to a medical appointment. That's a common enough thing to do. In other places, you might put it down as personal appointment leave. I've never heard of anyone taking annual leave to go to a medical appointment...

    Not every company even gives sick leave - no legal requirement to.


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    L1011 wrote: »
    Not every company even gives sick leave pay- no legal requirement to.
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