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meathcountysec

kevinkilbane wrote: »

yeah the 19th looks good, boharmeahan(cant spell) in meath 5km, i did a 5mile on paddys day this year there, nice little town.

Right county, wrong venue:p Paddy's Day 5 Mile Race was in Ballivor. 19th 5Km is in Bohermeen.:cool:

kevinkilbane

meathcountysec wrote: »

Right county, wrong venue:p Paddy's Day 5 Mile Race was in Ballivor. 19th 5Km is in Bohermeen.:cool:

touche, whoops. your right there. yep, the 5mile was in ballivor, and i should remember that name, took ages to find it that day. i was defo there in anyway.

http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b386/meathathletics/5%20mile%20cship%20BALLIVOR%2017Mar09/?action=view&current=DSC_3203.jpg

there i am, crawling over the line, in bits...
i look forward to Bohermeen. it be my third race in meath recently. the navan 4mile was excellent.
sorry bout the mistake meathcountysec

meathcountysec

kevinkilbane wrote: »

touche, whoops. your right there. yep, the 5mile was in ballivor, and i should remember that name, took ages to find it that day. i was defo there in anyway.

http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b386/meathathletics/5%20mile%20cship%20BALLIVOR%2017Mar09/?action=view&current=DSC_3203.jpg

there i am, crawling over the line, in bits...
i look forward to Bohermeen. it be my third race in meath recently. the navan 4mile was excellent.
sorry bout the mistake meathcountysec

I wouldn't mind but it was my own club's (Fr. Murphy AC) race....

If you think you were in bits then check me out!!!!:eek:

http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b386/meathathletics/5%20mile%20cship%20BALLIVOR%2017Mar09/?action=view&current=DSC_3268.jpg

See you Friday:P

Woddle

5.5 miles in 43'40, pace 7:56
Average HR 72%
http://connect.garmin.com/splits/7185835

Consecutive days running 7, total 45.4 miles , this is to keep for my own records and when I miss a day I'll have a target, a kind of my own best of 2009

ecoli

Great to see you getting consistency definitely will benefit. Dunno if you saw my other post about tomorrow training session sorry that i cant make it we definitely make up for it

Woddle

I kept it quite but I decided to race tonight instead of Friday. Reasons for this: 1/ I raced a 5 mile in Raheny in Jan 33'07, 2/ I'll learn more from a 5 miler over a 5k, 3/ There is another 5 mile next month so I can monitor my improvement.
My racing confidence has been low for a while now and I needed to try and do sth about that, so another reason for tonights race.

Mile 1-I started well and felt so comfortable, breathing was good (during the Wicklow relay I got talking to beepbeep about nasal strips, so I gave that a go tonight as I do struggle with sinus problems and they felt great). I refused to look at my watch(I find this easy to do) it beeped after a mile 6:16. Too fast but I was comfortable.
Mile 2-I caught up with Matt Cooley a good steady runner (must be in his 50s or 60s) but a good benchmark for me. So I stayed with him for all of mile 2, again going well and the watch beeped at 6:36 for the mile.
Mile 3 doubts started to appear as this is where things went wrong in Cork, so I did make a conscience descision to slow down and ran 6:54 for the mile but I did come close to stopping, my HR seemed to be fine so I can't really explain it. Same scenario happened during mile 4 only I was starting to struggle 7:15 for the mile.
Mile 5-I told myself fcek it 6:30 mins of running and your finished so I slowly picked up the pace and with 300m to go on the track I went all out and passed the clock at 33'30 with a final mile of 6:26 and I was happy with this, not a pb and slower than Raheny. However I know I didn't commit to this race fully, I backed off between mile 3 and 4.
What I learned from this race is that my confidence is back and I need to concentrate on more tempo runs. My aim now is 32:30 in the phoenix park 5 miler and I know the course will be tougher but I have a month of good training.
1.41 miles of a warm up
5 mile race in 33'30, pace 6:42
Average HR 84%
Consecutive days running 8, total 51.81 miles

ecoli

Great run. I know it was not a PB but when you consider 8 days training and a 14 miler 2 days ago you are definitely in shape to tackle Phoenix Park with a very good time congrats you deserve to be really pleased with that time

Woddle

Cheers ecoli and just looking back over my stats, it appears my HR went down from miles 2.75 to 4.5 which goes along with my whole confidence thing and taking my foot of the pedal for fear of blowing up and having to walk.

ecoli

Woddle wrote: »

Cheers ecoli and just looking back over my stats, it appears my HR went down from miles 2.75 to 4.5 which goes along with my whole confidence thing and taking my foot of the pedal for fear of blowing up and having to walk.

Just make sure to get an easy day tomorrow it been a long week in terms of training and you earned it:D

Woddle

One last thing congrats to both Orbhsa and Ral3 who both ran PBs, pleasure talking to yous before and after, see you next month in the park

tisnotover

Woddle wrote: »

I kept it quite but I decided to race tonight instead of Friday. Reasons for this: 1/ I raced a 5 mile in Raheny in Jan 33'07, 2/ I'll learn more from a 5 miler over a 5k, 3/ There is another 5 mile next month so I can monitor my improvement.
My racing confidence has been low for a while now and I needed to try and do sth about that, so another reason for tonights race.

Mile 1-I started well and felt so comfortable, breathing was good (during the Wicklow relay I got talking to beepbeep about nasal strips, so I gave that a go tonight as I do struggle with sinus problems and they felt great). I refused to look at my watch(I find this easy to do) it beeped after a mile 6:16. Too fast but I was comfortable.
Mile 2-I caught up with Matt Cooley a good steady runner (must be in his 50s or 60s) but a good benchmark for me. So I stayed with him for all of mile 2, again going well and the watch beeped at 6:36 for the mile.
Mile 3 doubts started to appear as this is where things went wrong in Cork, so I did make a conscience descision to slow down and ran 6:54 for the mile but I did come close to stopping, my HR seemed to be fine so I can't really explain it. Same scenario happened during mile 4 only I was starting to struggle 7:15 for the mile.
Mile 5-I told myself fcek it 6:30 mins of running and your finished so I slowly picked up the pace and with 300m to go on the track I went all out and passed the clock at 33'30 with a final mile of 6:26 and I was happy with this, not a pb and slower than Raheny. However I know I didn't commit to this race fully, I backed off between mile 3 and 4.
What I learned from this race is that my confidence is back and I need to concentrate on more tempo runs. My aim now is 32:30 in the phoenix park 5 miler and I know the course will be tougher but I have a month of good training.
1.41 miles of a warm up
5 mile race in 33'30, pace 6:42
Average HR 84%
Consecutive days running 8, total 51.81 miles

Solid running there lately Woddle, 8 days now like!
33:30 is a great time and that last mile you did was massive. Ya have to take great confidence off a recovery in race with a finishing mile like that.

Tempo running should sort the middle part i'd say. If you are aiming for that time in the phoenix park, maybe cut the mileage leading into it (last couple days) a bit?

Woddle

tisnotover wrote: »

Solid running there lately Woddle, 8 days now like!
33:30 is a great time and that last mile you did was massive. Ya have to take great confidence off a recovery in race with a finishing mile like that.

Tempo running should sort the middle part i'd say. If you are aiming for that time in the phoenix park, maybe cut the mileage leading into it (last couple days) a bit?

Thanks
There will be a mini taper for the 5 miler in the park for sure as its a goal race but tonights was a kind of a spur of the moment decision and well done yourself on your own recent 5 miler, will you do the 5 miler in the park next month?

tisnotover

Woddle wrote: »

Thanks
There will be a mini taper for the 5 miler in the park for sure as its a goal race but tonights was a kind of a spur of the moment decision and well done yourself on your own recent 5 miler, will you do the 5 miler in the park next month?

Thanks Woddle.
I prob won't travel up to be honest, there's a 5 miler on the week after down here, which i'll give a crack off ...please take a rest day soon

shels4ever

Woddle wrote: »

I kept it quite but I decided to race tonight instead of Friday. Reasons for this: 1/ I raced a 5 mile in Raheny in Jan 33'07, 2/ I'll learn more from a 5 miler over a 5k, 3/ There is another 5 mile next month so I can monitor my improvement.
My racing confidence has been low for a while now and I needed to try and do sth about that, so another reason for tonights race.

Mile 1-I started well and felt so comfortable, breathing was good (during the Wicklow relay I got talking to beepbeep about nasal strips, so I gave that a go tonight as I do struggle with sinus problems and they felt great). I refused to look at my watch(I find this easy to do) it beeped after a mile 6:16. Too fast but I was comfortable.
Mile 2-I caught up with Matt Cooley a good steady runner (must be in his 50s or 60s) but a good benchmark for me. So I stayed with him for all of mile 2, again going well and the watch beeped at 6:36 for the mile.
Mile 3 doubts started to appear as this is where things went wrong in Cork, so I did make a conscience descision to slow down and ran 6:54 for the mile but I did come close to stopping, my HR seemed to be fine so I can't really explain it. Same scenario happened during mile 4 only I was starting to struggle 7:15 for the mile.
Mile 5-I told myself fcek it 6:30 mins of running and your finished so I slowly picked up the pace and with 300m to go on the track I went all out and passed the clock at 33'30 with a final mile of 6:26 and I was happy with this, not a pb and slower than Raheny. However I know I didn't commit to this race fully, I backed off between mile 3 and 4.
What I learned from this race is that my confidence is back and I need to concentrate on more tempo runs. My aim now is 32:30 in the phoenix park 5 miler and I know the course will be tougher but I have a month of good training.
1.41 miles of a warm up
5 mile race in 33'30, pace 6:42
Average HR 84%
Consecutive days running 8, total 51.81 miles

Solid run there, back yourself when it hurts at 2-3 mile , I usually break the race into zones and at 3 miles tell myself it's just one mile left when thats done your at the 4 mile mark and almost home... Pb's hurt

I wouldnt worry about any of your races in the past month or two you went from a marathon to running 800/1500m in the space of a few week so the body may not have been ready.

You will Pb in the4 next 5 miler that you focus on just may need to change things around the week of the race , the 14 miles the other day may have cost you some time, So a propper race you'll take lots of time from that.

Well done.

Woddle

5 miles in 41'58, pace 8'23
Average HR 66%
Consecutive days running 9, total 56.81 miles

Nice and easy

Running Bing

The pace of your easy runs seems to be coming down a fair bit. Great sign when you can hold those sorts of paces with so little effort at this early stage.

Woddle

Running Bing wrote: »

The pace of your easy runs seems to be coming down a fair bit. Great sign when you can hold those sorts of paces with so little effort at this early stage.

The legs were tired for sure though but I was very surprised to see how low the HR was especially after last nights race aswell.

Running Bing

Woddle wrote: »

The legs were tired for sure though but I was very surprised to see how low the HR was especially after last nights race aswell.

Yeah Id say the HR would be a better indicator of effort though because your legs are naturally going be shagged after racing (and training in general).

Legs are always fresh for a marathon after a good taper so I would'nt worry about it, low HR is a great sign.

I reckon if you keep going the way you are now you will run a damn good race in Berlin.

RAL3

Woddle wrote: »

One last thing congrats to both Orbhsa and Ral3 who both ran PBs, pleasure talking to yous before and after, see you next month in the park

Thanks Woddle, likewise, pleasure to meet yourself & Orbhsa.

Was'nt sure it was really was the great Woddle until I saw all the other runners kneel down before you as you made your way to the start line............

Woddle

8 miles in 65'12, pace 8'09
average HR 71%, very happy with this and the overall pace as the first 2 miles where uphill.
Consecutive days running 10, total 64.81 miles

shels4ever

Woddle wrote: »

8 miles in 65'12, pace 8'09
average HR 71%, very happy with this and the overall pace as the first 2 miles where uphill.
Consecutive days running 10, total 64.81 miles

Very simalar run to yours today myself, think i'm finally recovered from the marathon and enjoying ever run now.
What days are you taking off now or are you running ever day?

Woddle

shels4ever wrote: »

Very simalar run to yours today myself, think i'm finally recovered from the marathon and enjoying ever run now.
What days are you taking off now or are you running ever day?

Glad to hear, it helps with motivation when your feeling good, it makes every run easy.

No rest days or should I say active rest days, last week instead of a day off I replaced it with a very easy 4.4 mile run.
When I say no rest days it really is within reason but 10 days into it I'm feeling good and energetic, I even cut the grass in the front garden without being asked and I'm sure ecoli and figs can testify, it was at knee height my poor wife.

shels4ever

Woddle wrote: »

Glad to hear, it helps with motivation when your feeling good, it makes every run easy.

No rest days or should I say active rest days, last week instead of a day off I replaced it with a very easy 4.4 mile run.
When I say no rest days it really is within reason but 10 days into it I'm feeling good and energetic, I even cut the grass in the front garden without being asked and I'm sure ecoli and figs can testify, it was at knee height my poor wife.

Sounds good, I'll keep an eye on that and see how you go, May try it later in the year if it looks like it works. Are you racing the 5 k on sunday?

Woddle

shels4ever wrote: »

Sounds good, I'll keep an eye on that and see how you go, May try it later in the year if it looks like it works. Are you racing the 5 k on sunday?

No after talking with RF it will be just the 1 race and having gotten this race out of the way on a Tuesday will allow me to get a nice long run in on Saturday and be happy with my lot for the week. Are you stil racing and if so what time you thinking of aiming for? I'm assuming you'll be hoping to improve on the marlay 5k, I reckon sub 21

shels4ever

Woddle wrote: »

No after talking with RF it will be just the 1 race and having gotten this race out of the way on a Tuesday will allow me to get a nice long run in on Saturday and be happy with my lot for the week. Are you stil racing and if so what time you thinking of aiming for? I'm assuming you'll be hoping to improve on the marlay 5k, I reckon sub 21

Yep going to give it a lash, have only had 2 weeks propper training so not sure how it will do. Marley i ran 22:30 so would hope to start to push the 20 mins mark... but 6:25 pace maybe a bit much for now.

Sub 21:00 sounds good but I think i may go out a bit faster then that.

I want to be sub 20 mins in 4-6 weeks time so this will be a good guide.

Woddle

Best of luck with that, I think we're closer now than ever before, so going to have to start watching my back

shels4ever

Woddle wrote: »

Best of luck with that, I think we're closer now than ever before, so going to have to start watching my back

Thats the plan.

ecoli

Woddle wrote: »

Glad to hear, it helps with motivation when your feeling good, it makes every run easy.

No rest days or should I say active rest days, last week instead of a day off I replaced it with a very easy 4.4 mile run.
When I say no rest days it really is within reason but 10 days into it I'm feeling good and energetic, I even cut the grass in the front garden without being asked and I'm sure ecoli and figs can testify, it was at knee height my poor wife.

You tackled the garden? a braver man than I:D

Woddle

5 miles easy in 41'27, pace 8'17
Average HR 66%, the heart rate monitor must be broke or sth delighted to have it so low but my legs are a bit tired, plan is 15 tomorrow morn with ecoli and I might take Sunday off, my wife is away and I have a skip to fill and kids with chicken pox to mind and it's suppose to be fathers day

I went out with my cousin and uncle to the 5k in Meath, I was only watching, my cousin ran well in 19'45 and I got to meet meathcountysec running with his daughter and rural runner, it was a pleasure and congrats on the pb, look forward to meeting you again in the park next month.
I'll have some pics up tomorrow night probably, might even have a few beers and reward myself for 12 straight days

Consecutive days running 11, total 69.81 miles

Woddle

9.63 miles in 1'24'41, pace 8'47
Average HR 69%

This was suppose to be a 15 miler but when I woke this morning at 6:30 I already had my doubts at finishing this. My legs were tired, I didn't eat alot yesterday and no breakfat before the run and a late night to boot. Out I went anyway, pace was slow, couple of tough climbs at mile 4 and 5, saw jlang at the top cycling up Kilakee road, now thats a tough climb.
Headed into marlay park and after 7 miles I sat down on the bench and had a talk with myself. I asked what will be the outcome if you complete the 15 miles and my answer was a poor weeks training next week and I remembered one of the laws of training from lore of running ''don't set your daily schedule in stone'', so I convinced myself to cut it short. It was the right decision and I'm looking forward to next week rather than dreading it. Thinking of taking tomorrow off as I will have to organise a babysitter and I'm quite happy with the last 12 days.
Consecutive days running 12, total 79.44 miles

kevinkilbane

that 79.44miles sounds excellent, doesnt it? tough one this morning, the body is probably telling ya something, or else maybe it was those burgers , you should have stuck to the sambos, they were lovely! a nice rest day tomorrow will do ya well, you'll be flying next week.
i had a quicl look on race pix, im guessing theyre some of your pictures, a few mad looking faces on the sprint finish, not looking forward to seeing mine ha.

Woddle

kevinkilbane wrote: »

that 79.44miles sounds excellent, doesnt it? tough one this morning, the body is probably telling ya something, or else maybe it was those burgers , you should have stuck to the sambos, they were lovely! a nice rest day tomorrow will do ya well, you'll be flying next week.
i had a quicl look on race pix, im guessing theyre some of your pictures, a few mad looking faces on the sprint finish, not looking forward to seeing mine ha.

Rest day tomorrow I think. All pictures are up now. I thought you were heading to Slane?
How you feeling after your good race performance last night?

BeepBeep67

Woddle wrote: »

Rest day tomorrow I think. All pictures are up now. I thought you were heading to Slane?
How you feeling after your good race performance last night?

I've a had a few days like that myself this week - I put it down to consecutive days (15) and not watching my water intake. Enjoy the day off tomorrow!

RacoonQueen

12 consecutive days is great work. Enjoy your rest day, they're always better when you decide beforehand that it's going to be a rest day instead of it hanging over your head all day whether you're going out or not.

ecoli

Sorry again about this morning think my body was telling me i need the sleep more with the increase in training. No point in killing yourself alrite take it easy and enjoy your well earned rest day

Ruarl Runner

Hey Woddle... It was nice to put a face to the blog. Enjoy the rest day but stay off those burgers !!

I see I managed to avoid the lens in Bohermeen, Looking forward to the 5 miler in the park... Until then keep up the good work!!

kevinkilbane

Woddle wrote: »

Rest day tomorrow I think. All pictures are up now. I thought you were heading to Slane?
How you feeling after your good race performance last night?

yeah i saw the pic, it didnt show how bad my arms were for the sprint, phew!!!
i was feeling great yesterday morning. i did go to slane, didnt leave until the afternoon though, did a bit of training there, jumping around like a mad man all evening during the concert, and then afterwards, had to walk for over 3hours to get a bus. good workout. unreal it was. got up late today, did a small run.
hope your fathers day went well. nice rest, ready for another 2weeks of solid training???? ha
im looking forward to saturday now, i read the thread on it.

Woddle

kevinkilbane wrote: »

hope your fathers day went well. nice rest, ready for another 2weeks of solid training???? ha
im looking forward to saturday now, i read the thread on it.

Well my fathers day and rest day involved clearing the shed,attic and side of the house into a skip. Entertaining 2 kids (I let them play in my car while I worked) and my wife came home at about 6pm to find I had the house spotless and I still got to watch some athletics from 4 on but I'm nackered now.
Saturday should be class and weather is to be good, I think.

Woddle

6 miles in 49'38, pace 8'16
Average HR 74%

Very warm but enjoyable out there. After my run it was on to the bike for a 4.5 mile cycle in to town to learn a bit about nutrition and then a cycle home with a dodgy back wheel.

8-10 miles with 2x2 mile at 6'50 pace for tomorrow, I want to get the speed session over and done with so the legs will be well ready for Tingles session on Saturday

Woddle

Nearly 40 sth days into my Berlin schedule but yet I feel I havn't even started. I feel I've alot of hard work to catch up with.
Yesterdays run didn't happen, I was all togged out and ready to go, just had to wait for my wife to come home from work and she did with a splitting head ache, so she asked me to wait till the kids went to be, so I did and at 9pm I got the all clear to go but at this stage I was pretty wiped, so I had a lazy rest day. This proves my point of no rest days for me as when I take one I end up taking another.

Now todays run was another disaster, my hay fever has been really acting up and with a headache and little motivation I headed out for planned session, see above.
Just didn't feel it and I got 5 miles in and about to start my second 2 mile tempo when I felt a niggle in my right calf, I tried to stretch it but still felt uncomfortable so I headed home. Now a miracle happened on the way home, my calf started feeling better and by the time I got to my doorstep it was gone. Did I really just convince myself of an injury to cut my run short?
Anyway
5.95 miles in 46'11, pace 7'46. Two miles at tempo, 6'58,6'57 and they actually felt fine.
Average HR 76%, still don't understand why its staying so low but yet the legs feel tired.

ecoli

Woddle wrote: »

Nearly 40 sth days into my Berlin schedule but yet I feel I havn't even started. I feel I've alot of hard work to catch up with.
Yesterdays run didn't happen, I was all togged out and ready to go, just had to wait for my wife to come home from work and she did with a splitting head ache, so she asked me to wait till the kids went to be, so I did and at 9pm I got the all clear to go but at this stage I was pretty wiped, so I had a lazy rest day. This proves my point of no rest days for me as when I take one I end up taking another.

Now todays run was another disaster, my hay fever has been really acting up and with a headache and little motivation I headed out for planned session, see above.
Just didn't feel it and I got 5 miles in and about to start my second 2 mile tempo when I felt a niggle in my right calf, I tried to stretch it but still felt uncomfortable so I headed home. Now a miracle happened on the way home, my calf started feeling better and by the time I got to my doorstep it was gone. Did I really just convince myself of an injury to cut my run short?
Anyway
5.95 miles in 46'11, pace 7'46. Two miles at tempo, 6'58,6'57 and they actually felt fine.
Average HR 76%, still don't understand why its staying so low but yet the legs feel tired.

Glad to see the session went well sure alot of the time it the thought of a session alot worse than actually doing it. wouldnt worry too much about the heart rate i mean alot of factors come into it and as tergats views on rest days is takes three days to get back to where you were

Woddle

It's amazing how much running can change your mood, in less than 12 hours I've gone from feeling crap about my training to being quite content this morning.
I got a text late last night to see if I fancied a run early tomorrow morning. I said yep so up at 5:45 and out the door at 6:15 for 7 delightful miles with my new running buddy from crusaders. We're both aiming for similar marathon times only his focus is Dublin, mine Berlin.

7 miles in 57'11, pace 8'10
Average HR 74%
Consecutive days running 2, total 12.95 miles

tisnotover

Woddle wrote: »

It's amazing how much running can change your mood, in less than 12 hours I've gone from feeling crap about my training to being quite content this morning.
I got a text late last night to see if I fancied a run early tomorrow morning. I said yep so up at 5:45 and out the door at 6:15 for 7 delightful miles with my new running buddy from crusaders. We're both aiming for similar marathon times only his focus is Dublin, mine Berlin.

7 miles in 57'11, pace 8'10
Average HR 74%
Consecutive days running 2, total 12.95 miles

That was one early start this morning! Glad to hear things are looking up again. Decent tempo run yesterday by the way.

Racing Flat

Woddle wrote: »

7 miles in 57'11,

More of the above, please. I think pushing your 5mile/40min runs up to the hour mark will be helpful for you.

ecoli

Racing Flat wrote: »

More of the above, please. I think pushing your 5mile/40min runs up to the hour mark will be helpful for you.

+1 your aerobic fitness doesnt really begin to improve until after 40 min anything up to this is really just maintaining your current aerobic capacity

Woddle

5 miles in 40'12,pace 8'02
Average HR 73%
Consecutive days running 3, total 17.95 miles

Thinking of doindg sth later but will see how the weather is.

cfitz

Woddle wrote: »

Nearly 40 sth days into my Berlin schedule but yet I feel I havn't even started. I feel I've alot of hard work to catch up with.
Yesterdays run didn't happen, I was all togged out and ready to go, just had to wait for my wife to come home from work and she did with a splitting head ache, so she asked me to wait till the kids went to be, so I did and at 9pm I got the all clear to go but at this stage I was pretty wiped, so I had a lazy rest day. This proves my point of no rest days for me as when I take one I end up taking another.

Different things work for different people, but this sounds like backward logic to me. You took a rest day and then missed the following day because of family life stresses. And your solution is to get rid of the rest day?

If you are missing sessions, it might be a better idea to make your programme a bit easier (rather than harder) and build back up gradually.

Woddle

To be honest I don't think my schedule is that demanding, so I don't think I need too many rest days, that rest day in question was more me being lazy, I should have got up earlier that morning and got the run in as I kind of knew there would be a 50:50 chance I wouldn't get out as she told me she wasn't great the night before(shes pregnant aswell ) so I think its making better use of my time, cheers for the feedback though.
And my wife finishes work on Tuesday for the whole summer so that should leave me with lots of free time to get sorted

eliwallach

Woddle wrote: »

I kind of knew there would be a 50:50 chance I wouldn't get out as she told me she wasn't great the night before(shes pregnant aswell )

Congrats Woddle.
All the early morning rises for training will stand to you when junior no. 3 arrives.
Now get some sleep in the bank over the next few months..;)

SUNGOD

congrats woddle
good to see another future Boards AC member on the way:D