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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭showry


    Woddle wrote: »

    I have just over 8 1/2 miles to go to complete the 1000 mile challenge, I'm making it my mission to finish it tomorrow :D

    Good stuff outta you Woddle, serious mileage


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|June|July|Aug|
    184|196|141|78.5|125|154|79|42.5|


    This is the breakdown of my 1000, I was building nicely for Aprils marathon, then took a break after the marathon, then I tried to build up again for Berlin but I bombed in July.
    Looking back I should have finished this challenge about 6 weeks ago if I understood the word consistency :D

    I certainly did not make the best of my 1000 miles, there is alot of rubbish in there. I'll look forward to next years challenge and I reckon it will be more competitive than this year which will be welcomed.

    I've set myself another challenge and thats 1800 miles by the end of the year and thats based on 20 weeks of the year left by 40 miles a week.

    I found todays run very tough after yesterdays.
    9 miles @ 9:15 pace, which was just so slow and torturous, it actually felt like the last 6.2 miles of a marathon :D
    Average HR 71%


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭tisnotover


    Excellent going Woddle, well done!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭cfitz


    In my opinion, the challenge should always be about performance in races. The reason for training the way you do is surely to race well - sub-goals such as 1,000 miles etc. are more likely to detract from the main goal (to race well) than help it in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,086 ✭✭✭BeepBeep67


    Congratulations on making it to the line and 2 LSR's in 5 days also - have you found your MoJo again ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    cfitz wrote: »
    In my opinion, the challenge should always be about performance in races. The reason for training the way you do is surely to race well - sub-goals such as 1,000 miles etc. are more likely to detract from the main goal (to race well) than help it in my opinion.

    I think you make a very good point and one I can't really argue with giving that I havn't raced well since Paddys weekend :D
    The challenge really helped me though with motivation up until April especially with getting out in the cold months and after the marathon it was the one thing that kept me running.
    I do however think I need to cop on to myself and try and figure out a few things, the main thing being what distance I want to race and enjoy racing and how best to train and to reach my potential. This year has still been an improvement on last year but I def should be way ahead of where I am and I think one of the issues is that I'm a lazy trainer, I'm happy to run 15 when I should be doing 2x25 min tempos or sth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    BeepBeep67 wrote: »
    Congratulations on making it to the line and 2 LSR's in 5 days also - have you found your MoJo again ;)

    Def not, I still feel like I'm running in steel boots or sth :D. I backed out of the last track race because I didn't feel up to it and I didn't want to leave a bad taste in my mouth for next years track season. Congrats on going sub 5 by the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,238 ✭✭✭Abhainn


    Well done Woddle , I think you'll agree with me in that running 1000 miles takes time. Now don't start suggesting a post like 2000 miles for 2010 or anything like that ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    Abhainn wrote: »
    Well done Woddle , I think you'll agree with me in that running 1000 miles takes time. Now don't start suggesting a post like 2000 miles for 2010 or anything like that ;)

    No chance I think the 1000 is the perfect number, it's a nice almost reachable target for all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    Well done on the 1000m woddle...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭jlang


    Well done on finishing the 1000 mile challenge, and for starting it. Don't take what I said on the other thread as criticism - I think the 1000 mile thing was a brilliant idea and have used it as an extra incentive to go out some days. At the end, it was guilt more than glee I felt when I found I'd ended up sneaking in ahead of you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    jlang wrote: »
    At the end, it was guilt more than glee I felt when I found I'd ended up sneaking in ahead of you.

    No better man :D
    I should have finished long ago though and not left things so tight. I think I saw you cycling by my house a few mornings back heading down Ballyboden road towards Rathfarnham or it was your spitting image.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭shels4ever


    You doing the 3000m next week in irishtown?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭jlang


    Woddle wrote: »
    No better man :D
    I should have finished long ago though and not left things so tight. I think I saw you cycling by my house a few mornings back heading down Ballyboden road towards Rathfarnham or it was your spitting image.
    Unlikely. Bar Wednesday's duathlon I haven't been out on the bike in ages (definitely not your way, and nearly not at all). Maybe I'll have to keep it that way in the future in case I meet my doppelganger.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    Sat
    3.62 in 30'50, pace 8'31
    Average HR 72%

    Sun
    5 miles in 38'21, pace 7'40
    Average HR 78%

    I met that young guy with the Rahfarnham singlet today and he ran with me for a while, it turns out he's only 15 and has just qualified for some European mountain champs(I think, I was blowing hard to keep up with him), Adam Jones is def on to a great talent there.

    Total milage 1008.94


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    :Dwell done on the 1000miler


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,441 ✭✭✭Slogger Jogger


    Congrats!

    Those Rathfarnham hill running goats just keep getting younger :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    ultraman1 wrote: »
    :Dwell done on the 1000miler

    Cheers, am now finally celebrating it with some champagne, the OH is so jealous :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    Congrats!

    Those Rathfarnham hill running goats just keep getting younger :)

    I just did a bit of checking up on him and he finished 2nd down in Crone, to be 15 again and have his good sense :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    maybe give her a sip of champagne......


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    ultraman1 wrote: »
    maybe give her a sip of champagne......

    I've offered in the hopes of getting lucky but she's sticking to her guns of no alcohol while preganat especially considering how the other 2 have turned out :D


    only joking she has been brill through out all pregnancies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    west coast cooler even?:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Well done Woddle, as the man who set up the 1000 challenge leading the rest of the troops by example. Good man!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    I was quite tired yesterday and a little hung over from the champagne so decided to postpone my long run by a day.

    So up at 5:20 am to get ready for a 6 start, that involved 2 visits to the toilet and there was still another to come :eek:
    I have been looking for an alternative route to my usual hilly one and I thought about running to the phoenix park and back which is exactly what I did, it's a lovely route Phoenix park 19 miles but def one for the weekend, it was fine heading in but the traffic on the way back and the amount of traffic lights I got stuck at was frustrating.
    The plan was 5 miles @ 8 min pace, 5 @ 8'30 before walking to take my gels and water and then it was to repeat the above, everything was going well, I didn't look at my garmin till after 5 miles and I was going faster than I thought but it certainly didn't feel like it, so I slowed it down and was enjoying the park till my stomach started acting up, so I had a pikey poo in which while squatting a deer scared the crap out of me running past me ,within a few meters. I decided to take my gels and water here, no point stopping twice but when I started up I just couldn't get the same groove going so I tossed the plan out the window here.
    On leaving the park I ran out of water and my quad maybe ITB(felt higher up than last time) started acting up so I walked and stretched every now and again, I would build up time on the watch and then start walking and when the pace got to 9 min miles I would start running again, not a bad plan. I got to Terenure and went into a deli to get a refill, thank you deli girl who put ice in it aswell, that went down a treat. I decided not to take the long way home and cut the run short at 19, the quad started to feel better aswell which was good.
    Can't wait to do this route again on a Sunday morning at 6.

    19 miles in 2'41'11, pace 8'29
    Average HR 71%
    Total milage 1027.95

    When I got home my 3 year old was just getting up and the wife and 5 year old were still wacked out, there's alot to be said for early morning running and got to go back to bed for an hour :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    Woddle wrote: »
    When I got home my 3 year old was just getting up and the wife and 5 year old were still wacked out, there's alot to be said for early morning running and got to go back to bed for an hour :D

    I am a big fan of it myself woddle.
    It was kind of forced on me really,did not want to start going early but it was going to be the only way i could get a run in ( 2 days out of 5 )
    Grat to be finished a long one when the rest of the house are still panned out !

    Im a bit confused here though,i thought you knocked berlin on the head ?
    or are you just tipping away for Dublin ? not sure whether you knocked that also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭Peckham


    Impressive.

    How do you fuel for a run at that time of the morning? Do you eat anything before you go out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    Peckham wrote: »
    Impressive.

    How do you fuel for a run at that time of the morning? Do you eat anything before you go out.

    Thanks
    No I don't eat anything in the morning, I'll have a brekky though the night before and then I'll have 2/3 gels along the way, just 2 today and decided to try sth different and take them both at the same time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,612 ✭✭✭gerard65


    'so I had a pikey poo in which while squatting a deer scared the crap out of me running past me ,within a few meters':D:D:D

    This is so funny on so many levels. The funniest comment I've read on A.R.T.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    Sosa wrote: »
    Im a bit confused here though,i thought you knocked berlin on the head ?

    Your not the only one confused :D after 4 lsr's in as many weeks from 16-19 miles I'm starting to have a change of mind. I know I'm a lost cause :rolleyes: :D so I've gone about making a plan up to get me around the Berlin course and then have a crack at Dublin. I need to get my race confidence back and I feel Berlin will do this now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    gerard65 wrote: »
    'so I had a pikey poo in which while squatting a deer scared the crap out of me running past me ,within a few meters':D:D:D

    This is so funny on so many levels. The funniest comment I've read on A.R.T.

    It was the roadrunner who first introduced me to that phrase so the credit must go to him
    I was looking out for you this morning as I came through bushy, had a feeling you'd be out early


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭Peckham


    Woddle wrote: »
    No I don't eat anything in the morning, I'll have a brekky though the night before

    There's an element of a D'Unbelievables sketch there....having dinner first thing in the morning to get a good start at the day.
    Woddle wrote: »
    just 2 today and decided to try sth different and take them both at the same time.

    Is that what caused your stomach to act up?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    Peckham wrote: »

    Is that what caused your stomach to act up?
    No I took them after, I think it was the chicken pie and lasagne added to the late night brekky of Shreddies :D


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Woddle wrote: »
    Your not the only one confused :D after 4 lsr's in as many weeks from 16-19 miles I'm starting to have a change of mind. I know I'm a lost cause :rolleyes: :D so I've gone about making a plan up to get me around the Berlin course and then have a crack at Dublin. I need to get my race confidence back and I feel Berlin will do this now.

    I had a feeling this would happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,983 ✭✭✭TheRoadRunner


    I had a feeling this would happen.

    +1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭christeb


    +1

    +2, you wouldn't be a 'runner' otherwise!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭shels4ever


    I knew you'd end up at the start in Berlin... But your dropped from the novice team now ;) ... only joking .. what plan are you going to follow for berlin just lots of miles between now and then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    shels4ever wrote: »
    what plan are you going to follow for berlin just lots of miles between now and then?

    The main things I want to hit are the medium long runs on a Thursday 13-15(4 of these) miles with some at PMP and then the following 2 Sundays after the 10 mile race I want to hit 20 miles and then taper, I've decided to still race the 10k the week before and then pretty much rest up.
    Milage will be between 50-60 until taper. My mind is 100% now behind this schedule, no more changing :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    I've been trying to be a bit more grown up when it comes to food and with me being a marathon runner I thought I should start eating pasta, so we got rid of the kids for a few hours and decided to make ourselves this

    3814992628_337f3f9d6d_b.jpg

    I only managed to eat half it, my eyes were bigger than my belly but still I would eat it again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,612 ✭✭✭gerard65


    Looks nice. Good balance. Are you still running tonight?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,983 ✭✭✭TheRoadRunner


    An Italian friend of mine thinks it sacrilege to have chicken with pasta. Looks nice, personally I prefer noodles so would replace the pasta with these. You have me hungry now


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    An Italian friend of mine thinks it sacrilege to have chicken with pasta. Looks nice, personally I prefer noodles so would replace the pasta with these. You have me hungry now

    My wife wanted it with rice but I hate rice more than pasta :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    Personally i would eat it with rice,pasta or noodles...i am not fussy.

    Looks good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Racing Flat


    I think it looks perfect. My problem is I'd make enough for 2 nights and then eat it all on the first night. Every time. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭Stupid_Private


    personally I prefer noodles so would replace the pasta with these

    According to my endurance eating bible egg noodles are a no-go. Under "How to reduce dietry fat and cholesterol" it suggests to decrease egg noodle intake and increase rice and pasta. Don't know what the deal is with normal noodles. I'm sure they're grand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    I think it looks perfect. My problem is I'd make enough for 2 nights and then eat it all on the first night. Every time. :o

    I'm just going for my second helping :D

    5.6 miles in 46'21, pace 8'17
    Average HR 71%
    Total miles 1033.55

    Thankfully no ill effects from yesterday bar stiffness, just easy running from now till Saturdays race.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Looks very similar to what I ate tonight, only I was good and had wholewheat pasta. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    Having a very lazy day just hanging out with my laptop and watching a place in the sun and getting very excited about the 10 miler on Saturday. I just realised that my 10 mile pb is the only pb that still stands from 02 and that is 69'17 from the cityswift 10 miler. So armed with this information I'll be aiming to beat it, don't know how realistic a target it is but sure we'll see.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    Started my weights today, plan is twice a week with 3 days rest in between. Squats,deadlifts, bench press and shoulder press with sit ups based on the recommendations of the fitness forum. A friend is doing the weights sessions with me and tonight was about finding our 8 rep max. After I went for a little run.
    3.04 miles in 24'12, pace 7'57
    Average HR 74%
    Total miles 1036.59


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    Friday
    2.8 miles very easy and very stiff from the weights :rolleyes:

    Saturday
    5.39 miles of the Frank Duffy 10 miler

    I was very stiff on waking this morning so although I brought my gear I also brought my camera as I was thinking I needed another day to get rid of the stiffness. So the warm up would make my mind up and I started to feel good so said lets give it a bash.

    Mile 1- 6'50 and holding back, I let figs go as he was going a bit too quick for my planned pace.

    Mile 2- 6'52 and still going well but by the 3rd mile I knew my race was done, I tried to stay strong going up the hill but my legs were starting to cease badly and at that point the negative side of my brain won out and I ripped my number off and decided I was done.
    I met stmochtas at the finish and we decided to roar some support at fellow boardsies, it worked on some, Krusty probably being the most noticable. WE scared the crap out of him with 200m to go and man did he turn on the sprint finish. Some fantastic runs from boardsies and as always a pleasure to meet them. When are we going to organise a night out :cool:
    A positive that came out of the day is that Adam Jones has agreed to coach me, so I'm very excited about that. No more doing as I please and I think I'll benefit alot from being told what to do.
    Looking forward to an easy run tomorrow and the only thing I regret is that I should have stuck to my guns and not raced.

    Total milage 1044.78


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭xebec


    Fair play for giving it a go, it doesn't always work out... Met early evening after the race and he mentioned what happened, hope you got a few photos to make up for it :)


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