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shels4ever wrote: »Once we base it on current half marathon pb's
I'm happy with that
Maybe current 5 mile or 10k times would be best. Will start a thread and see if there is much interest0 -
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Well after 7 days on the trot I ended up taking yesterday off.
Today I met up with a friend who ran 21'30 in the Rathfarnham 5K and who wants to improve for the Jingle bells, so I had him do 3x1k with 2 mile warm up and 3 mins jogging for recovery, I joined him on the first and we ran it in 3'53 (probably a bit quick for him, his next 2 were also good in 4'06 and 4'06. While he was doing rep 2 & 3 I changed into my spikes and went for a jog and introduced 4x30 seconds. I really enjoyed this run, a lovely evening in Marlay park.
5.18 miles in 42'11, pace 8'09
Average HR 69%
I've talked (I've set him up a boards account) my mate into starting a log, so keep an eye out for TheRok 0 -
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kevinkilbane wrote: »i read your log and i showed it to your uncle today. he laughed, he gave out, he slagged, and had alot to say. so because hes so bad at typing, i typed but he said it. here is his opinion/lecture....
"What are you doing??? since rathfarnham, you have not mentioned/nor has your training got anything to do with the MARATHON. why? jingle bells is a long way away, and you will do fine in it, the waterford half is even after. FORGET THEM!!!! concentrate on the marathon. its two weeks. have you ran more than 15mile since berlin?
you would want to get a grip. speed sessions??? 2weeks before, no no.
Pfitzinger 5km plan???? why are you even reading that?
you need a kick up the arse"
He's so funny but probably correct.
No I havn't done more than 15 (Monday I promise), I suppose I'm guilty of trying to fit too much into a small period of time.
To be honest not making a show of myself tomorrow is pretty high on my list of to dos
Hows your training going, you still racing tomorrow, now go put your mileage in the 1000 mile thread, and did you race today ?0 -
He's so funny but probably correct.
No I havn't done more than 15 (Monday I promise), I suppose I'm guilty of trying to fit too much into a small period of time.
To be honest not making a show of myself tomorrow is pretty high on my list of to dos
Hows your training going, you still racing tomorrow, now go put your mileage in the 1000 mile thread, and did you race today ?
you wont make a show of yourself tomorrow. dont worry, just enjoy the race and run it, dont stop! why did you do the speeds stuff during the week when two 15miles on tuesday n thursday would have so much better, 5-8mile on friday, rest saturday and race on sunday... the uncle also said "woddle needs a coach" haha.
my training is going well, was in bits on tuesday, caught in the rain which ruined my cool down. so wednesday and thursday werent my best days. rest friday and today. i was under orders to rest thurs fri and sat, but didnt run hard on thurs. i cannot wait for the race tomorrow in tarmonbarry, im going to run it with the real runner, so hopefully ill keep up with him most of the way, hes quick for a 59 year old though!
and im up to 1036 miles, ill put it up soon and ive to put up my predicted marathon time. 3.590 -
Anxiety about this race kicked in last night, couldn't sleep so I stayed up till 2am watching Ironman Hawaii. O woke early again thinking of all the what ifs regarding this race, I felt I was in over my head.
Anyway I togged out and was heading to the park when my wife thought it would be a good idea to join me and of course we'll bring the kids. I was delighted for the company but it turned out to be a disaster, both my daughters and wife have a fear of dogs and this led to alot of crying on their behalf and they were actually making quite a scene, so I tried to bring them away from the dogs but nothing was helping so I saw this as my opportunity to pull out of the race but with about 15 mins to go I was talked back into running (I must say I felt like a bit of a dope in front of the lads with my will he won't he crap, sorry), so I headed back over to the family to tell them I would indeed be running only to find them surrounded by 3 dogs playing fetch with their owner, at this stage my wife took the kids back to the car and I was left sprinting to the start line only to get there just on time. So no warm up and I felt this badly with what I felt was a quick start. I hated the hills they were small but still zapped me of any energy, after the first lap I was about 10 seconds behing Gerard65 but on the second lap I couldn't maintain the pace and felt I was going backwards after lap 2 I was about 20 seconds behind Gerard65 but about 20 people had gone by me in lap 2 and I now found myself (according to pics) about 10th last and with that on the 3rd lap I stepped off. I was a little annoyed at myself for all my carry on before the race and the way I conducted myself during the race, tearing off like a mad man at the start, I should know how to pace myself now and not be depending on the normally reliable Gerard65
Anyway lots of thoughts flying through my brain today and one of them is to knock Dublin marathon on the head for good and concentrate on shorter stuff, I can't afford to let Robinph and Gerard and JLang get any further ahead of me, so watch out lads I'm coming for yee.0 -
A few people on the xc thread saying it was a big step up, they were in over their heads etc. But it's a natural progression making that step up. I was thinking of you as I was driving to the race yesterday, knowing you were worried that you might be to the back of the field. Driving down the main road of the park I must have passed about 50 runners out training for the marathon I suppose and I was thinking that anybody in the Novice would beat all of them - so even he who is last in the Novice is probably running at a decent standard. So there's no shame at ever coming to the back in a running race, but particularly not at Novice standard which is all club runners. Running at that level can only bring you on as there are less hiding places. Depending on the race, you might be running under 20mins for 5k but be at the back, whereas in most road races, go under 20mins for 5k and you'll probably be in the top 20% of the field. Come 3rd last in a cross country and you'll work really hard to do much better the next time - you might need a 30sec improvement to get up the field. Run 19.40 in a road race and you might be happy with 19.39 the next time...And everyone has to start somewhere. I've been 4th last in a county Senior race, 4th last in National Intermediate, 136th out of 146 in Nat. Novice, 120th out of 140th another year. I was top 20 yesterday
. And a young lad called bazman was outside the top 100 in the Nat. Novice a few years ago. The fellow who was 2nd yesterday was 15th last year, he who was 4th yesterday was 11th last year. So there's improvements to be made wherever you are in the field. Stick at it and it'll come. Like the boys said yesterday - 14th out of 15th yesterday, aim for mid table next year, top 10 would be nice (163points). 0 -
Anyway lots of thoughts flying through my brain today and one of them is to knock Dublin marathon on the head for good and concentrate on shorter stuff,
I'd say knock the thoughts on the head. Just get out and jog and enjoy yourself and don't worry about plans or what's up next or anything. Just run regularly, happily. 0 -
You know my view on thatAnxiety about this race kicked in last night, couldn't sleep so I stayed up till 2am watching Ironman Hawaii. O woke early again thinking of all the what ifs regarding this race, I felt I was in over my head.
Anyway I togged out and was heading to the park when my wife thought it would be a good idea to join me and of course we'll bring the kids. I was delighted for the company but it turned out to be a disaster, both my daughters and wife have a fear of dogs and this led to alot of crying on their behalf and they were actually making quite a scene, so I tried to bring them away from the dogs but nothing was helping so I saw this as my opportunity to pull out of the race but with about 15 mins to go I was talked back into running (I must say I felt like a bit of a dope in front of the lads with my will he won't he crap, sorry), so I headed back over to the family to tell them I would indeed be running only to find them surrounded by 3 dogs playing fetch with their owner, at this stage my wife took the kids back to the car and I was left sprinting to the start line only to get there just on time. So no warm up and I felt this badly with what I felt was a quick start. I hated the hills they were small but still zapped me of any energy, after the first lap I was about 10 seconds behing Gerard65 but on the second lap I couldn't maintain the pace and felt I was going backwards after lap 2 I was about 20 seconds behind Gerard65 but about 20 people had gone by me in lap 2 and I now found myself (according to pics) about 10th last and with that on the 3rd lap I stepped off. I was a little annoyed at myself for all my carry on before the race and the way I conducted myself during the race, tearing off like a mad man at the start, I should know how to pace myself now and not be depending on the normally reliable Gerard65
Anyway lots of thoughts flying through my brain today and one of them is to knock Dublin marathon on the head for good and concentrate on shorter stuff, I can't afford to let Robinph and Gerard and JLang get any further ahead of me, so watch out lads I'm coming for yee. . No therapist needed you just need to decide what you want to do.
You love your running and get pulled ever direction. The mistake yesterday was you let people get into your head says it was too big a step up and fear of looking bad. I knew that if I was @ 100% yesterday i'd be in the last couple of people in the field . That would have been a success for me and something to build on and benchmark against for next year. As RF said just get out and run and enjoy if for the next few week, You love to race a lot so the focus on Marathons may not be the way to go.0 -
Racing Flat wrote: »I'd say knock the thoughts on the head. Just get out and jog and enjoy yourself and don't worry about plans or what's up next or anything. Just run regularly, happily.
+1 to this. What happened to the old Woddle who was so enthusiastic about running?;) You've been trying to fit in a lot of different races lately (marathon, 5k, XC), whats the harm in taking the foot off the pedal for a little while and enjoying yourself? Looks like there will be a great gang of runners and pacers running the 4 hour mark in Dublin, you could tip around handy enough at this pace and enjoy your running again. No pressure, just appreciate the crowd, the runners around you, the craic.
And you'll still get a medal at the end:)0 -
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I've taken 3 days off now and will get out for a run later and meeting a friend in bushy tomorrow morning for a session.
Next few races:
Wednesday 21st, 2 mile in Raheny
Sunday 15th Nov, 3k in Arklow
Also really starting to consider a football comeback, bumped into the manager of my old team this morning and he invited me back, he told me they would be training tonight but I never was one for footy training. I told him I would go and watch them play. I'm thinking I want to know what standard their at, I don't want to play with a shlt team again.
I think I miscounted on this and yes I am full of myself
I thought it was a 100
and no I'm not all one footed, I was just adapting my wife and kids are in bed/confined spaces tactics0
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