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Pieta House reject fundraising money from hunt

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  • #352
    1eg0a3xv7b82of
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    Depp wrote: »
    here, ring joe duffy or something none of us care

    I will pass on Joe or something.
    Maybe you should get a minicall or something.

    Why do people abuse animals?
    There are many reasons
    Because it makes them feel powerful, they are born with problems, treated badly themselves, brain damage. Most need professional help.

    But others enjoy violence and destruction.
    They need psychological help as they are dangerous people.

    Fox hunting finishes with a fox being killed, not always I admit that, but often enough.
    Time to ban it.


  • #353
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Ember Scarce Mind wrote: »
    Why do people abuse animals?
    There are many reasons
    Because it makes them feel powerful, they are born with problems, treated badly themselves, brain damage. Most need professional help.

    But others enjoy violence and destruction.
    They need psychological help as they are dangerous people.
    Christ. What a rant. Hyperbole doesn't cover it.
    What next, fox hunting causes climate change.


  • #354
    Widdershins
    Registered Users Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    As yet nobody has admitted what it is they enjoy about the fox killing aspect of the hunt. Plenty of deflection and defensiveness, but nobody honest enough to admit it.


  • #355
    1eg0a3xv7b82of
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    Widdershins wrote: »
    As yet nobody has admitted what it is they enjoy about the fox killing aspect of the hunt. Plenty of deflection and defensiveness, but nobody honest enough to admit it.

    Exactly, all of the posts for pro fox hunting deflect.
    One poster brought up child abuse, another vampire foxes, and after that its all hyperbole, or ring joe duffy, or climate change, or loads of foxes, or other things in life more important to be worried about.
    Pure codology.

    The reason none of the posters will admit to why they like it so much is fear of marking themselves out as enjoying a past time that is an act of savagery.
    And instead of replying to defend their past time with reason they reply by attacking/belittling the post.

    Why? Because you cant defend the indefensible.


  • #356
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,004 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    This charity that supports people in dire straits needs to cop on now.

    As if a suicidal person would worry about hunting.

    OMG.

    Great to be able to be judgmental when most of the funding comes from the taxpayer to be fair.

    Has Pieta House asked us, the taxpayer what to think?

    Happy New Year anyway to all contributors. It is a debate after all..


  • #357
    [Deleted User]
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    Ember Scarce Mind wrote: »
    I will pass on Joe or something.
    Maybe you should get a minicall or something.

    Why do people abuse animals?
    There are many reasons
    Because it makes them feel powerful, they are born with problems, treated badly themselves, brain damage. Most need professional help.

    But others enjoy violence and destruction.
    They need psychological help as they are dangerous people.

    Fox hunting finishes with a fox being killed, not always I admit that, but often enough.
    Time to ban it.

    And I think people who equate abuse of animals with abuse of humans are sociopaths who are "born with problems...brain damage...need professional help" etc.

    Fox hunting does end with a fox being killed. On the other hand, no matter how much invective and emotion is used...'tis still only a fox.


  • #358
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Fox hunting does end with a fox being killed. On the other hand, no matter how much invective and emotion is used...'tis still only a fox.

    You clearly don't know much if anything about this.

    If the fox somehow escapes the hounds...they are dug out with terriers





    If your happy to support such cases of animal cruelty and pass it off as tis just a fox??

    At what point do you stop??
    Would you let them chase down your family/neighbours pet. .....sure their only just dogs??


  • #359
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    tomwaterford wrote: »
    You clearly don't know much if anything about this.

    If the fox somehow escapes the hounds...they are dug out with terriers





    If your happy to support such cases of animal cruelty and pass it off as tis just a fox??

    At what point do you stop??
    Would you let them chase down your family/neighbours pet. .....sure their only just dogs??



    Quote from another thread.


    I always judge how someone treats an animal.

    That can speak volumes...


  • #360
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    tomwaterford wrote: »
    At what point do you stop??
    Would you let them chase down your family/neighbours pet. .....sure their only just dogs??

    Oh they could actually start with my brother in law's dog and then move on to my neighbour's. I'd give them the addresses and all, to expedite the process.


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  • #361
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Oh they could actually start with my brother in law's dog and then move on to my neighbour's. I'd give them the addresses and all, to expedite the process.



    How about giving the name and addresses of the 12-15 men, you know who witnessed the rape of a drunken girl to the garda. To "expedite the process"


  • #362
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    How about giving the name and addresses of the 12-15 men, you know who witnessed the rape of a drunken girl to the garda. To "expedite the process"

    What a very very strange post.

    The Gardai know them all.

    I'm confused, does hunting...make you think of rape? I find that a bit disturbing tbh.


  • #363
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Deleted User wrote: »
    What a very very strange post.

    The Gardai know them all.

    I'm confused, does hunting...make you think of rape? I find that a bit disturbing tbh.



    Yes. Hunting makes me think of rape. I'm a male, so everything makes me think of rape.:rolleyes:


  • #364
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Oh they could actually start with my brother in law's dog and then move on to my neighbour's. I'd give them the addresses and all, to expedite the process.

    Just so we're clear here....you approve of cruelty to animals??


  • #365
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    tomwaterford wrote: »
    Just so we're clear here....you approve of cruelty to animals??

    I don't positively approve of it, no.

    I don't enjoy seeing fish being hooked and dragged out of water, or dogs and cats being cooped up in city apartments waiting for their half hour walk in traffic fumes, or people on horses hunting foxes. But none of it keeps me awake at night either.


  • #366
    PucaMama
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I don't positively approve of it, no.

    I don't enjoy seeing fish being hooked and dragged out of water, or dogs and cats being cooped up in city apartments waiting for their half hour walk in traffic fumes, or people on horses hunting foxes. But none of it keeps me awake at night either.

    Another one who thinks keeping dogs can be compared to fox hunting. Don't pretend you can't see the difference.


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  • #367
    Widdershins
    Registered Users Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    This charity that supports people in dire straits needs to cop on now.

    As if a suicidal person would worry about hunting.

    OMG.

    Great to be able to be judgmental when most of the funding comes from the taxpayer to be fair.

    Has Pieta House asked us, the taxpayer what to think?

    Happy New Year anyway to all contributors. It is a debate after all..

    Actually when I had depression the sh1tty state of the world was always on my mind, and that very much includes fox hunting and animal cruelty. It would have mattered to me if I'd needed help from Pieta House and found out that they were connected to the hunt. I'm far from the only one.


  • #368
    1eg0a3xv7b82of
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    And I think people who equate abuse of animals with abuse of humans are sociopaths who are "born with problems...brain damage...need professional help" etc.

    Fox hunting does end with a fox being killed. On the other hand, no matter how much invective and emotion is used...'tis still only a fox.

    Muddying the waters will not deflect the harsh truth.
    How a society treats animals says a lot about a society. At the heart of this debate is whether we agree foxs can suffer. If you believe they can surely there is something seriously wrong with Fox hunting.


  • #369
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Ember Scarce Mind wrote: »
    Muddying the waters will not deflect the harsh truth.
    How a society treats animals says a lot about a society. At the heart of this debate is whether we agree foxs can suffer. If you believe they can surely there is something seriously wrong with Fox hunting.

    Maybe someone has already quoted the old definition of fox hunting.. "The unspeakable in search of the uneatable"


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