This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying

liamog

JPA wrote: »

That is really low milage. It's a 5 year old car. Only 12k a year.

Seems like a decent enough price, I agree the mileage is pretty low.

Casati

ELM327 wrote: »

I mean, if you're going to spend 64k plus 5% fees, nearly 70k on a model S, and pay in cash (merlin dont do financing), I'm sure you're either a) planning to flip it - in which case you overpaid or b) you will be keeping it for some time.
Of course for a) above I wouldnt pay for FSD but for B I would, it will give much better function and jump you to the front of the MCU upgrade if needed too.


Also, at 6k for FSD and ~2.5k for MCU upgrade it puts you in the mid 70s. Really shows that they overpaid when an as new inventory car is 85k

Catching up here- are all new model S's now 100's?

ELM327

Yes, they are labelled "Long Range" or "Performance" but both only come with 100 packs.

unkel

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

I am intrigued at this one - a 2015 BATTERY OWNED – No monthly battery lease charges? - I didn't think that was possible? , how? - I thought all ZOE of that vintage were battery rental?
Good price though, but high mileage isnt it for a BEV?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-zoe-dynamique-zen-fully-electric/25197463

Excellent price provided the car is indeed battery owned. Would make a nice alternative to the Leaf if you are on a budget. I'll probably be in the market for an EV just like this in about a years time

Casati wrote: »

Catching up here- are all new model S's now 100's?

Yes. Only two models now, both 100kWh. Long range (610km WLTP) and performance

Black_Knight

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

I am intrigued at this one - a 2015 BATTERY OWNED – No monthly battery lease charges? - I didn't think that was possible? , how? - I thought all ZOE of that vintage were battery rental?
Good price though, but high mileage isnt it for a BEV?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-zoe-dynamique-zen-fully-electric/25197463

Seems a bargain alright. Low mileage, no lease. Clean enough (looks like some kerbing, and possibly a few dents on the rear bumper). The claimed 150km city range is a nice jump from a similarly priced Leaf 24.

unkel

Black_Knight wrote: »

Seems a bargain alright. Low mileage, no lease. Clean enough (looks like some kerbing, and possibly a few dents on the rear bumper). The claimed 150km city range is a nice jump from a similarly priced Leaf 24.

Both have a usable capacity of not much more than 20kWh, both are inefficient and both have a similar range. 150km from either car, in your dreams!

Andy From Sligo

Thanks all, yep that Zoe does look in good enough nick - I were just saying about the mileage because i had seen other ZOE's around 30,000 mark but yes it is 2015 at the end of the day. That interesting, I never knew you could buy the batteries on a 2015 vintage i though t you could only buy them on later Zoes with a built in <i> or something on the badge of the car to denote that it was battery owned

I still don't understand how the battery lease works.
Say I had bought one new with the lease then I sold it on donedeal then what?
Do I need permission to sell it ?

ELM327

BrownFinger wrote: »

I still don't understand how the battery lease works.
Say I had bought one new with the lease then I sold it on donedeal then what?
Do I need permission to sell it ?

You won't need to worry, no one will buy the leased one :pac::D




On a serious note, if you buy a leased model you have to also sign the lease contract from RCI to take over the battery lease.

Andy From Sligo

ELM327 wrote: »

You won't need to worry, no one will buy the leased one :pac::D




On a serious note, if you buy a leased model you have to also sign the lease contract from RCI to take over the battery lease.

How do renault know if you are paying the lease as a new owner of the second hand car, or if you are paying enough ie the correct price for the amount of km's you do and if you DON'T do any of this as a new owner of a second hand zoe car that has battery lease what happens like ... the car still presumably drives and charges up OK and everything doesnt it? - I find it all confusing too this battery lease malarkey ....

Gumbo

21” Turbine wheels for a Model S

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/25248080

Gumbo

Gumbo wrote: »

21” Turbine wheels for a Model S

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/25248080

"Tyres in very good condition apart from one "
The only mint condition except it doesn't work:D

ELM327

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

How do renault know if you are paying the lease as a new owner of the second hand car, or if you are paying enough ie the correct price for the amount of km's you do and if you DON'T do any of this as a new owner of a second hand zoe car that has battery lease what happens like ... the car still presumably drives and charges up OK and everything doesnt it? - I find it all confusing too this battery lease malarkey ....

They will cut the car's ability to charge if the lease is not paid


The zoe is much more connected than the fluence was

unkel

Lots of Fluence ZE on DoneDeal at the moment. All of them ludicrously overpriced.

And how long has that Leaf without a battery been for sale now? Price has been dropping. Latest price is €2,400. Maybe somebody will give him half that.

listermint

BrownFinger wrote: »

"Tyres in very good condition apart from one "
The only mint condition except it doesn't work:D

Tyres appear near brand new, screw in 1 easily fixed tbf

listermint

listermint wrote: »

Tyres appear near brand new, screw in 1 easily fixed tbf

So eazy he hasn't done it.

irishgrover

listermint wrote: »

Tyres appear near brand new, screw in 1 easily fixed tbf

they also appear to by different brands which would probably also lower their appeal

ELM327

To be honest I would consider buying them and if I was to buy used alloys I'd be changing the tires anyway

unkel

Why would anyone want to buy them? They are far too big for use on this country's roads. Unless you only ever drive on good roads / motorways. There is a reason the seller is selling. If I bought mine with 21" wheels, they'd be up for sale too.

listermint

unkel wrote: »

Why would anyone want to buy them? They are far too big for use on this country's roads. Unless you only ever drive on good roads / motorways. There is a reason the seller is selling. If I bought mine with 21" wheels, they'd be up for sale too.

This is also true.

Ive had large wheels. No Bueno.

ELM327

unkel wrote: »

Why would anyone want to buy them? They are far too big for use on this country's roads. Unless you only ever drive on good roads / motorways. There is a reason the seller is selling. If I bought mine with 21" wheels, they'd be up for sale too.

I love those wheels, I'd buy them, if I wasnt saving for a house deposit.


When I get my X (if the CT is not released next year) it will have 22' wheels.

unkel

They look great, but the ride would be pretty bad, even with air suspension. I guess I would refuse to wear high heels too even if I were very pretty in them :pac:

Gumbo

If I had t already got the 21”, I’d be snapping his hands off!
I’ve found no difference in my 21” compared to the wife’s 19” on the F10 around Dublin or the motorway.

On the other hand, the 20” on my i3 was hard as hell!

listermint

Gumbo wrote: »

If I had t already got the 21”, I’d be snapping his hands off!
I’ve found no difference in my 21” compared to the wife’s 19” on the F10 around Dublin or the motorway.

On the other hand, the 20” on my i3 was hard as hell!

F10 has runflats no ??

Gumbo

listermint wrote: »

F10 has runflats no ??

Not mine.
I put normal tyres on it. Have the space saver kit in the boot if going on a long journey.

Andy From Sligo

ELM327 wrote: »

They will cut the car's ability to charge if the lease is not paid


The zoe is much more connected than the fluence was

Blimey, imagine that, that they could do that at any time cut the ability remotely to charge :eek:

Petetheroadie

Just saw this on one of the Facebook EV groups: https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/tesla-s85-dual-charger-free-charging-warranty/24930179

slave1

Petetheroadie wrote: »

Just saw this on one of the Facebook EV groups: https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/tesla-s85-dual-charger-free-charging-warranty/24930179

Not bad but no AP1 would put me off, plus warranty expires this month so MSU1 time bomb just waiting to explode. Better off with UK import and longer warranty

unkel

Petetheroadie wrote: »

Just saw this on one of the Facebook EV groups: https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/tesla-s85-dual-charger-free-charging-warranty/24930179

Decent price for a car on Irish plates, but solid white is not a good colour. But sure if you like it and if you're going to keep it for a long time, who cares.

slave1 wrote: »

MSU1 time bomb just waiting to explode

That's a bit of an exaggeration

First of all only a small minority of cars had to have the MCU1 replaced. We all know the reason: excessive data logging wears down the flash memory. This excessive data logging has long since been stopped with a software update, so the chances of getting this problem have reduced dramatically

And if it does happen, there are indy companies in the UK that can fix it for around the EUR500 mark

But sure, use it as a negotiating chip to get another grand or two off

Gumbo

What’s the appeal of AP1?
I haven’t got it myself now, but I hardly even use cruise control.