This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying

CrazyFather1

MorganIRL wrote: »

https://rkingscompetitions.com/competitions/teslamodelsp85d

A bargain for £25 if you win :-)

A couple od videos of these "competitions" doing the rounds on wasps. The one when they draw out one number but say another is the best, then realise the numbers are different and try to back track. Pure car crash stuff.

MorganIRL

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

A couple od videos of these "competitions" doing the rounds on wasps. The one when they draw out one number but say another is the best, then realise the numbers are different and try to back track. Pure car crash stuff.

Ya a few dodgy ones have been out there, but they seem to have disappeared. Friend won a '16 318d on this site last year. Lovely car. What I've seen of this crowd are legit along with FDR in Donegal. But up to everyone to make there own decisions..

Gumbo

NIMAN wrote: »

Stupid question here, but it's 25 to enter or free if you send a postcard to Newry?

Yes, part of the uk / NI law that allows these comps mean you have to offer free entry by post. But if tickets are sold out beforehand then they legally don’t have to give you free entry.

Gumbo

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

A couple od videos of these "competitions" doing the rounds on wasps. The one when they draw out one number but say another is the best, then realise the numbers are different and try to back track. Pure car crash stuff.

I believe that’s one video from a small pop up company following the first lock down. I don’t think there’s “videos” doing the rounds which implies there’s loads of scams.

There’s a big thread in the General Motors run about them and there’s a few that appear to be legit such as elite, RKings amongst others.

garo

unkel wrote: »

You still talking about that cannibalised Model 3 SR+ or that facelift Model S you posted? I presume the latter. It's still for sale at €44.6k now. Not sure if that's a bargain. I guess all Model S in this country have just gained a few grand in value today seeing as there are very few over here (how many?) and importing one now attracts 21% VAT plus a few shekels in VRT...

I was never talking about the Model 3. Only about the facelift Model S. Also I didn't say it was a bargain. I said it might be a bargain in 10 days time if the price keeps dropping. We need to reset what we call a bargain now that we can't import from the UK anymore. It's 2016 but has a full warranty to 2024 and a battery/drivetrain warranty to 2027. That's worth a few k in my book.

But more importantly, as Old Diesel said, nice to see Tesla Sandyford finally doing Used (not CPO anymore).

Gumbo

If this is fully functioning it’s a bargain.

https://www.adverts.ie/22550423

Not sure I’d buy it unseen though it’s a big expensive paperweight if faulty.

Black_Knight

Who said Tesla bargains wouldn't be a thing in 2021‽

the_amazing_raisin

garo wrote: »

But more importantly, as Old Diesel said, nice to see Tesla Sandyford finally doing Used (not CPO anymore).

Remind me again what's the difference between Tesla used and CPO? Is CPO a repaired vehicle or something?

Gumbo

cruisey1987 wrote: »

Remind me again what's the difference between Tesla used and CPO? Is CPO a repaired vehicle or something?

Might help a little.

https://tesla-info.com/guide/buying-used-from-tesla.php

slave1

Say, two years ago Tesla CPO was off the charts in terms of value and cover, it has been slowly reduced, now they offer little more than typical used car warranty

unkel

Gumbo wrote: »

If this is fully functioning it’s a bargain.

https://www.adverts.ie/22550423

Not sure I’d buy it unseen though it’s a big expensive paperweight if faulty.

It's decent value, but the "sold as seen" and "bought at auction" don't sit well with me

And it looks good, but there is nothing special about the Tesla wall charger

Silent Running

Gumbo wrote: »

If this is fully functioning it’s a bargain.

https://www.adverts.ie/22550423

Not sure I’d buy it unseen though it’s a big expensive paperweight if faulty.

But it would be a Tesla paperweight! You could then tell everyone that they too should have a Tesla paperweight.

dazed+confused

Gumbo wrote: »

If this is fully functioning it’s a bargain.

https://www.adverts.ie/22550423

Not sure I’d buy it unseen though it’s a big expensive paperweight if faulty.

Is this a Type 2 charger, could it be used with most other types of EV or just Tesla?

Gumbo

dazed+confused wrote: »

Is this a Type 2 charger, could it be used with most other types of EV or just Tesla?

Type 2. Should work with all cars once switched to allow it.

The problem with these Tesla chargers is that they are known to be troublesome.
Of all the chargers in the Tesla group, the oem Tesla one is the most talked about when theres a problem.

It’s a god deal if you get it for the €175 plus courier but they are not without their problems.

ELM327

Gumbo wrote: »

Yes, part of the uk / NI law that allows these comps mean you have to offer free entry by post. But if tickets are sold out beforehand then they legally don’t have to give you free entry.

They generally sell out in under 2 days (sometimes in hours)on rkings so I doubt theyve ever had to give a free entry.
Sometimes (eg today for the tesla) there's a few tickets left but they run the draw anyway rather than having to wait a day and allow free entries for such an expensive item




PS: I bought 2 tickets for the Tesla. Not sure what Id do with it if I won! His and hers teslas I suppose!

Gumbo

ELM327 wrote: »

They generally sell out in under 2 days (sometimes in hours)on rkings so I doubt theyve ever had to give a free entry.
Sometimes (eg today for the tesla) there's a few tickets left but they run the draw anyway rather than having to wait a day and allow free entries for such an expensive item




PS: I bought 2 tickets for the Tesla. Not sure what Id do with it if I won! His and hers teslas I suppose!

Yeah I only enter the odd one here and there. The Tesla deffo tickled my fancy so I bought a ticket.

If I won it, I’d sell my own as the P85D would be an upgrade to my P85+

ELM327

...and I didnt win. Ba$tards!

unkel

Presumably you'd have to pay 33% CAT of the value if you won a free car? Or does the lottery company pay that for you?

I wouldn't spend a cent on any of these lotteries. The payout percentage is shockingly low. If you want to gamble in a more cost effective way, just go into a casino and put €50 on your favourite number on the roulette table. Payout percentage > 95%

zg3409

unkel wrote: »

Presumably you'd have to pay 33% CAT of the value if you won a free car? Or does the lottery company pay that for you?

There is a thread on this gambling service here:

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showthread.php?t=2058066477

Lots of potential downsides if you win a prize. Suggestions you should declare it as income to revenue, (the lotto is tax free), possible vat, import costs, insurance issues depending on your quotes.

Sometimes similar services are not clear on the odds of winning, so it can be hard to estimate risk/reward.
Its a bit off topic for EVs. There is also concern if cars are registered as English vs Northern Ireland as the rules are now different post brexit. Gambler beware.

ELM327

unkel wrote: »

Presumably you'd have to pay 33% CAT of the value if you won a free car? Or does the lottery company pay that for you?

I wouldn't spend a cent on any of these lotteries. The payout percentage is shockingly low. If you want to gamble in a more cost effective way, just go into a casino and put €50 on your favourite number on the roulette table. Payout percentage > 95%

No, its tax free, similar to other games of chance.

kanuseeme

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202007101102066?advertising-location=at_cars&model=ROADSTER&radius=1500&postcode=ls298jn&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&sort=price-asc&make=TESLA&fuel-type=Electric&maximum-mileage=60000&include-delivery-option=on&page=1

2010 roadster uk reg in germany with a tesla repair specialist who is sourcing a battery for 12-15 k euro.

Only 2500 roadsters made and most of them left hand drive.

unkel

Probably a sound investment if you put it away or just use sparingly / carefully. Looks mint and ultra low miles. That car will one day be worth a million quid.

listermint

unkel wrote: »

Probably a sound investment if you put it away or just use sparingly / carefully. Looks mint and ultra low miles. That car will one day be worth a million quid.

***may.

Don't ever say will.

unkel

One day could be a long time away :pac:

the_amazing_raisin

unkel wrote: »

One day could be a long time away :pac:

Musk might need more roadsters to fire at other planets in the next few years

ELM327

unkel wrote: »

Probably a sound investment if you put it away or just use sparingly / carefully. Looks mint and ultra low miles. That car will one day be worth a million quid.

If youre looking solely for an investment Tesla, this would be better


https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202005069209676?model=ROADSTER&radius=1501&postcode=bt11aa&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&sort=relevance&make=TESLA&year-to=2021&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1

jhegarty

garo wrote: »

https://www.merlin.ie/details?listingid=972c5bda-5636-eb11-89e8-f01fafd9cf1d


Might be worth a punt for those interested. Eco cars Athlone had it for sale at 36k earlier in the year. Note it's the Executive edition. No idea about AP or any extras.

For the record , went for €30,200

ELM327

Non Tesla bargain:
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/price-drop-hyundai-kona-electric-64-kwh/25314585

unkel

Lot of range for the money. Private seller too, so a good deal might be had for a serious buyer who can do a quick deal here.

Kramer

ELM327 wrote: »

Non Tesla bargain:
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/price-drop-hyundai-kona-electric-64-kwh/25314585

That's perfect use of a 64kWh Korean car - 75,000km in 2 years, one of which with a pandemic/lockdowns etc.

I reckon it cost the owner 12c/km for everything, depreciation (€36k - €29k), electricity (7c/kWh night rate @ 14kWh/100km), tax (€120 x 2), servicing & insurance (€400 x 2).

Will have cost them less than a 10 year old diesel.

I think our Ioniq 28 (50k km in 12 months) worked out far less than that again - TCO was maybe around 9/10c/km.