This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying

Orebro

ELM327 wrote: »

PTC heater is a plug and play replacement surely? On a petrol 1500 project car I'd tackle that myself so I'd give it a go here too.

It's a pain in the arse to get to it and in a stupid place - centre console/dash out job - so disaster if it goes in an otherwise usable Leaf as I've seen quotes of 2k+ from Nissan UK to replace, most of it being labour (making some cars a write-off because of a bloody heater, madness). But I guess if you're going to be doing surgery on this one anyway it's not a big deal. Spare ones can get got for pennies on fleabay too.

Have we been given clear and decisive answers about whether battery extensions impact the ability of the car to be covered under normal insurance policy?

I thought this was still an open question? And until answered the range extensions / battery replacement are experiments and not really viable options for real consideration?

ELM327

Deleted User wrote: »

Have we been given clear and decisive answers about whether battery extensions impact the ability of the car to be covered under normal insurance policy?

I thought this was still an open question? And until answered the range extensions / battery replacement are experiments and not really viable options for real consideration?

It's a closed question. It's a modification to the car and has to be declared to the insurer.

DrPhilG

Lol, I ended up in a row with the Irish crowd doing these battery upgrades for asking that.

unkel

It's an insane waste of money anyway. Why spend €7k on a €4k car and end up with a car worth maybe €6k?

€5k down the drain that you will never get back...

ELM327

unkel wrote: »

It's an insane waste of money anyway. Why spend €7k on a €4k car and end up with a car worth maybe €6k?

€5k down the drain that you will never get back...

The battery is disconnectable afterwards

kaahooters

unkel wrote: »

Might be worth making a call to the lads in Wicklow, who have taken on the Muxsan franchise. They might have a look at it.

details?

slave1

unkel wrote: »

It's an insane waste of money anyway. Why spend €7k on a €4k car and end up with a car worth maybe €6k?

€5k down the drain that you will never get back...

But there are non-financial benefits, if you are happy with the car and want to extent it's life, a lot of energy and raw materials in a new car that can be avoided with a battery swap out.
I'm 90% committed to battery swap for our L30 when it no longer becomes usable for us, by then it will make economical sense.
Same again with the Tesla

cannco253

https://rangetherapy.org/

the_amazing_raisin

DrPhilG wrote: »

Lol, I ended up in a row with the Irish crowd doing these battery upgrades for asking that.

Sure it's just the same as putting in a higher capacity 12v battery

ELM327

cruisey1987 wrote: »

Sure it's just the same as putting in a higher capacity 12v battery

The guy promoting this really hasnt a clue. He was on one of the IEVOA calls recently and he showed he worked in the NGO industry for years by his lack of awareness

I told him this was a modification and as fuch needs to be declared to the insurance co. He disagreed and blocked me!

Orebro

ELM327 wrote: »

The guy promoting this really hasnt a clue. He was on one of the IEVOA calls recently and he showed he worked in the NGO industry for years by his lack of awareness

I told him this was a modification and as fuch needs to be declared to the insurance co. He disagreed and blocked me!

Have to agree with this - I had a scan through a recording of that meeting and afterwards I wouldn't give him my Casio to replace the battery in, much less let him mess around with my car.

DrPhilG

ELM327 wrote: »

The guy promoting this really hasnt a clue. He was on one of the IEVOA calls recently and he showed he worked in the NGO industry for years by his lack of awareness

I told him this was a modification and as fuch needs to be declared to the insurance co. He disagreed and blocked me!

Similar issue for me. I had queried the issues with insurance and been fobbed off a few times. Eventually he blocked me on twitter I think.

Then he posted in the Irish EV Owners Facebook page advertising his service. Not even doing so openly, as he obviously knew that the page doesn't allow advertising, but an obviously made up post about an overstay fee, with a subtle link to his business added at the end.

When I threw out the post he threw an absolute hissy fit and demanded that we change the rules just for him because he isn't even making a profit, just trying to save the world lol.

Orebro

I can't remember where I saw it but there was a photo posted somewhere of him doing his own car in some sort of small dark block shed - to call it a backstreet operation would be giving it a compliment, it looked less than amateur and plain dangerous tbh.

80sDiesel

2017 BMW I3 94Ah with good spec
18900
https://www.donedeal.ie/view/27448116

Fidoodles

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Leaf for €1950 with an electrical fault

Gone already!

slave1

Ioniq38 for £22k, if true NI car then no VRT/VAT....

New battery on it's way for you so essentially a new car come end of the year given the interior and exterior of this car look excellent

reni10

slave1 wrote: »

Ioniq38 for £22k, if true NI car then no VRT/VAT....

New battery on it's way for you so essentially a new car come end of the year given the interior and exterior of this car look excellent

Why would there be no VRT?

There will be no vat if the car was registered for 6 months in NI or imported to NI before 31st Dec 2020 but there will still be VRT To pay.

Casati

reni10 wrote: »

Why would there be no VRT?

There will be no vat if the car was registered for 6 months in NI or imported to NI before 31st Dec 2020 but there will still be VRT To pay.

Where are you getting that the car will need to be registered for 6 months in NI to avoid VAT being charged - I do not believe that the legislation includes such a requirement?

Black_Knight

Thought those 38s were all leather interiors? Pity. I've toyed with the idea of a 38 to give us some more range while the likes of the id4 are too pricey/not second hand yet. Would have to be a cheap upgrade though as I rate the 38 pretty poorly for it's shoddy charging speeds. 8-9k to add 60km+ extra range... Probably not worth it, but more worth £22 than the €34 original price

Black_Knight

reni10 wrote: »

Why would there be no VRT?

There will be no vat if the car was registered for 6 months in NI or imported to NI before 31st Dec 2020 but there will still be VRT To pay.

There's €5k Vrt relief on electric vehicles, so if the Vrt is less than 5k, you pay no Vrt. In this case, it would be less than 5k.

Casati

Black_Knight wrote: »

Thought those 38s were all leather interiors? Pity. I've toyed with the idea of a 38 to give us some more range while the likes of the id4 are too pricey/not second hand yet. Would have to be a cheap upgrade though as I rate the 38 pretty poorly for it's shoddy charging speeds. 8-9k to add 60km+ extra range... Probably not worth it, but more worth £22 than the €34 original price

They are doing 3k eco upgrade so brand new Ioniq is just over 30k on the road. Its easy spend somebody else’s money but that seems better value than 26k for an imported 2019

McGiver

slave1 wrote:

New battery on it's way for you so essentially a new car come end of the year given the interior and exterior of this car look excellent

Is that the one that catches fire?

Black_Knight

McGiver wrote: »

Is that the one that catches fire?

Preheats, yes

McGiver

Casati wrote:

They are doing 3k eco upgrade so brand new Ioniq is just over 30k on the road. Its easy spend somebody else’s money but that seems better value than 26k for an imported 2019

Do you have details?

Gumbo

McGiver wrote: »

Is that the one that catches fire?

Just charge until 90% until the battery replacement is done. Sorted.

Casati

McGiver wrote: »

Do you have details?

Check out there website - it’s all there

cunnifferous

171 Ioniq for under 15k. Count as a bargain?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/hyundai-ioniq-full-electric-5dr-auto/27505993?campaign=3

unkel

It sure does! A full year's manufacturer's warranty left and 4 years on battery and drive train

Great car for relatively little money. I'd buy another in the morning if I were in the market for a second family car and my budget would stretch that far.

The lips

cunnifferous wrote: »

171 Ioniq for under 15k. Count as a bargain?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/hyundai-ioniq-full-electric-5dr-auto/27505993?campaign=3

Leather heated seats in the description but not the photos, must e a dealer of sorts then?