This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying

Soarer

listermint wrote: »

What does debit card payments only mean...

That you can only pay with a debit card?

Seems a srange one for a private sale.

NIMAN

Soarer wrote: »

That you can only pay with a debit card?

Seems a srange one for a private sale.

Seller obviously is a business of some sort.

unkel

listermint wrote: »

What does debit card payments only mean...

A legitimate payment? Wait a few hours until the money appears in your account (SEPA transfer started in the morning clear before end of business) and there is no way back out.

I wouldn't want the guts of 20k in cash either if I had a car for sale. Unless the buyer comes into the local bank with me and I deposit it into my account (bills verified by bank staff). And don't get me started on cheques. They should have been banned 50 years ago.

listermint

No one pays 20k on Debit card .there is limits for a reason.

Add seems dodgy tbh.

unkel

It's odd he mentions it in his ad, it probably gets people suspicious, so he doesn't get the interest, he lowers the price and a smart gentleman will pick up a bargain here

Very easy to do a MOT / finance / CAT C or D / HPI check for very little money and the car is under bumper to bumper manufacturers warranty for another 3 years. I'd nearly go do it myself for an easy enough €3k profit for a days work.

denismc

Not sure if it is a bargain but the colour is great on this.
Seller has good reviews and is based in Southampton, direct flights from cork.
Very tempting!
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201807258794687?fuel-type=Electric&model=IONIQ&advertising-location=at_cars&radius=1500&sort=price-asc&postcode=bt797df&make=HYUNDAI&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1

Silent Running

denismc wrote: »

Not sure if it is a bargain but the colour is great on this.
Seller has good reviews and is based in Southampton, direct flights from cork.
Very tempting!
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201807258794687?fuel-type=Electric&model=IONIQ&advertising-location=at_cars&radius=1500&sort=price-asc&postcode=bt797df&make=HYUNDAI&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1

That's a bit odd. Those pictures are of a premium SE (front parking sensors). The text states premium and cloth seats.

Soarer

Silent Running wrote: »

That's a bit odd. Those pictures are of a premium SE (front parking sensors). The text states premium and cloth seats.

Were the front sensors an option on the Premium maybe?

denismc

Silent Running wrote: »

That's a bit odd. Those pictures are of a premium SE (front parking sensors). The text states premium and cloth seats.

I rang them and had it confirmed as premium, they sent me pictures of the interior and it is cloth seats.

The lips

What does the premium SE add? Adaptive cruise and leather interior?

denismc

The lips wrote: »

What does the premium SE add? Adaptive cruise and leather interior?

Premium SE gets leather ventilated seats with electric adjustment, front parking sensors , blind spot detectors and a few more bits and pieces.

The Premium has adaptive cruise control so that would explain the sensors on the front.

Silent Running

denismc wrote: »

Premium SE gets leather ventilated seats with electric adjustment, front parking sensors , blind spot detectors and a few more bits and pieces.

The Premium has adaptive cruise control so that would explain the sensors on the front.

Adaptive cruise has nothing to do with front parking sensors.

unkel

Chevrolet Volt (same as Vauxhall Ampera) - £8,495

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201808089267716?postcode=ub94dn&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&sort=sponsored&make=CHEVROLET&fuel-type=Electric&advertising-location=at_cars&page=1

Seems like a bargain to me!

unkel

Chevrolet Volt (same as Vauxhall Ampera) - £8,495

Linky


Seems like a bargain to me! Cheapest Vauxhall Ampera of the same year is a touch under £11k

Shefwedfan

unkel wrote: »

Chevrolet Volt (same as Vauxhall Ampera) - £8,495

Linky


Seems like a bargain to me! Cheapest Vauxhall Ampera of the same year is a touch under £11k

These work like the i3 PHEV don't they?

KCross

That is a reasonable price for the top spec....
https://www.speakev.com/threads/12750-65-plate-red-leaf-30kwh-tekna-6-6kw-charger.128914

unkel

Shefwedfan wrote: »

These work like the i3 PHEV don't they?

Nope not quite. The petrol engine mostly just charges the battery and the electro motor mostly drives the car, but the petrol engine can also be directly driving the car if I understand it correctly

n97_mini just got one, he'll do up a dedicated thread soon

ewj1978

KCross wrote: »

That is a reasonable price for the top spec....
https://www.speakev.com/threads/12750-65-plate-red-leaf-30kwh-tekna-6-6kw-charger.128914

circa €15k for a top spec 6.6kw L30. How is that not sold?

unkel

2014 Leaf 24kWh SV - €8399

From electricautos.ie, so warranty, good service etc.

Linky


Too good to be true? It is, the car has "***Bodywork needs attention, some deep scratches in paint.****"

No pics yet, so we don't know how bad it is, but could still be a good deal

Nedved85

unkel wrote: »

2014 Leaf 24kWh SV - €8399

From electricautos.ie, so warranty, good service etc.

Linky


Too good to be true? It is, the car has "***Bodywork needs attention, some deep scratches in paint.****"

No pics yet, so we don't know how bad it is, but could still be a good deal

Any concerns about the mileage and battery degradation?

unkel

Nope. Leaf is very reliable, mileage isn't as hard on EVs as it is on normal cars. I would ask Phil to show me the LeafSpy results of state of health of the battery. As long as the result is as expected for a 4, almost 5 year old Leaf, I would have no concerns.

grogi

unkel wrote: »

2014 Leaf 24kWh SV - €8399

From electricautos.ie, so warranty, good service etc.

Linky


Too good to be true? It is, the car has "***Bodywork needs attention, some deep scratches in paint.****"

No pics yet, so we don't know how bad it is, but could still be a good deal

I once bought a car was a model picture of paintwork disgrace - deep scratches from a kid washing it with stones...

The fix wasn't ideal, but far more than acceptable. And costed me €20 and three hours of work: €5 for buffing kit for drill and €15 for poslishing materials.

unkel

This is it. Or more extreme - some people don't mind the rat look. If it meant getting the car for a grand cheaper.

samih

Would be a great way to obtain a shopping centre proof car if you can live with the scratches.

Ush1

Hi lads, I'm in the market for a Nissan leaf and scratches wouldn't bother me.

What would I be looking for in terms of battery degradation?

Gumbo

Ush1 wrote: »

Hi lads, I'm in the market for a Nissan leaf and scratches wouldn't bother me.

What would I be looking for in terms of battery degradation?

On a 2014 Leaf, I would expect anything from 80% to 90% State of Health, 11 bars on the dash. anything above that is a bonus.

jasonb

After deciding that I'll probably go with another Prius, I did a u-turn and decided to have a long look at the Leaf. It's a world I know nothing about, but am trying to learn!

I found this,

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/nissan/leaf/used-2014-141-nissan-leaf-tekna-with-dublin-fpa-201808199644521

and my limited knowledge suggests it's a good spec (Tekna) with 6.6kWh charger and low mileage. It's 'only' a 24kWh battery, but I don't know if the 30kWh was available in 2014 or not.

So, as an introduction to me sussing out the Leaf, would this be a good buy? Or not? And what's good/bad about it?

Thanks!

Soarer

jasonb wrote: »

After deciding that I'll probably go with another Prius, I did a u-turn and decided to have a long look at the Leaf. It's a world I know nothing about, but am trying to learn!

I found this,

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/nissan/leaf/used-2014-141-nissan-leaf-tekna-with-dublin-fpa-201808199644521

and my limited knowledge suggests it's a good spec (Tekna) with 6.6kWh charger and low mileage. It's 'only' a 24kWh battery, but I don't know if the 30kWh was available in 2014 or not.

So, as an introduction to me sussing out the Leaf, would this be a good buy? Or not? And what's good/bad about it?

Thanks!

You're right with your limited knowledge.
Tekna (UK) and SVE (Ire) are the highest spec.
6.6kW is the faster AC charger.
The 30kWh version didn't come out until 2016.

She looks like a nice clean motor. Seeing as the seller is an "eco car" seller, they should have LeafSpy, and should be able to give you the State Of Health (SOH) of the battery. As long as that's in the mid to high 90s, she should be good to go.
Plus she as the granny cable, so you'll be able to charge from a 3 pin socket at home before you get a proper charger.

Orebro

kceire wrote: »

On a 2014 Leaf, I would expect anything from 80% to 90% State of Health, 11 bars on the dash. anything above that is a bonus.

First post I've seen with someone saying to look out for 11 bars instead of 12 in the 1.5 Leaf - we're getting old :-)

jasonb

Soarer wrote: »

You're right with your limited knowledge.
Tekna (UK) and SVE (Ire) are the highest spec.
6.6kW is the faster AC charger.
The 30kWh version didn't come out until 2016.

She looks like a nice clean motor. Seeing as the seller is an "eco car" seller, they should have LeafSpy, and should be able to give you the State Of Health (SOH) of the battery. As long as that's in the mid to high 90s, she should be good to go.
Plus she as the granny cable, so you'll be able to charge from a 3 pin socket at home before you get a proper charger.

Excellent, thanks for your reply! I don't want to hijack this thread too much, but is there much difference between the Tekna and the SVE, or are they different names for the same spec? Edit: Actually just saw here on Boards that the SVE and Tekna are basically the same...