This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying

rocky

151 Leaf SV 9.9k https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/nissan-leaf-sv2015-nct-01-2021/21640274

unkel

High miles for age, but that's a pretty good price. Also from dealer, so comes with warranty. Still has some Nissan warranty on drive train / battery too.

jprboy

rocky wrote: »

151 Leaf SV 9.9k https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/nissan-leaf-sv2015-nct-01-2021/21640274

unkel wrote: »

High miles for age, but that's a pretty good price. Also from dealer, so comes with warranty. Still has some Nissan warranty on drive train / battery too.

What realistic value would one put on a 151 Leaf XE with the same mileage (134k km) as the one above in a private sale?
3.3kW charger and also has fast charging capability.

samih

Realistically advertise for the same and see if anybody bites. Actually kind of surpised the SV above hasn't sold yet. You'd be competing with earlier LEAFs that also don't have heatpump but you have better battery and the car is newer than those 6-8k asking cars. The spartan spec could put techies off but you'll find somebody that doesn't want/value gadgets to buy it.

Your are leaving some haggle room to yourself with the 9k9 pricing.

jprboy

samih wrote: »

Realistically advertise for the same and see if anybody bites. Actually kind of surpised the SV above hasn't sold yet. You'd be competing with earlier LEAFs that also don't have heatpump but you have better battery and the car is newer than those 6-8k asking cars. The spartan spec could put techies off but you'll find somebody that doesn't want/value gadgets to buy it.

Thanks, samih. Couldn't have worded that line about the spec nearly as well as that. Encapsulates my thoughts exactly!

unkel

rocky wrote: »

151 Leaf SV 9.9k https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/nissan-leaf-sv2015-nct-01-2021/21640274

Haha, he must have done a bit of research. Price gone up from €9.9k to €10.9k now...

samih

LOL. He must have been bombed with calls. Please take my money.

Gumbo

unkel wrote: »

Haha, he must have done a bit of research. Price gone up from €9.9k to €10.9k now...

samih wrote: »

LOL. He must have been bombed with calls. Please take my money.

Im not surprised.
I put my 141 SVE up for sale last December for €10k. I had bought it for €9980 2 years earlier so thought I bought well (as I’ve done in the past).

I was hesitant in whether I was selling or not and I was a nightmare to deal with. I got loads of calls but couldn’t pull the trigger to actually sell it. I was a time waster but on the selling side.

Then in late January I decided I had enough. I wanted a change. So put it up for €11k. It sold within 3 days for the full €11k. I had a list of people asking me to call them back if it wasn’t sold.

Just shows you how the EV market is at that level.

NIMAN

I wonder what a 141 Tekna would fetch now?

Have been thinking of changing up a few years, perhaps to something with a little more range, if the cost wasn't too prohibitive.

Mine has full 12 bars, 82000km, 6.6kW charger.

unkel

Probably quite decent money. Problem is, any second hand EV you are trading up to has also kept its value well. That said, if you could sell your 5.5 year old Leaf privately for €11k and get a brand new Ioniq for €26k on the road, that wouldn't be a bad upgrade value for money wise

NIMAN

Yeah Unkel, that had crossed my mind.

As mine was holding its value, so were all the other evs.

Maybe sell here and head over to UK to buy? Might be a way to save?

unkel

NIMAN wrote: »

Maybe sell here and head over to UK to buy? Might be a way to save?

Nope. Prices for almost all second hand EVs in the UK have gone mental in the last few months. Not a cent to be made importing one. Northern Ireland might be an exception.

NIMAN

Food for thought.

My own Leaf suits my needs well at present, so maybe better to hang on to it for now.

unkel

Your Leaf is likely to keep its value exceptionally well for a very long time (compared to any ICE car of the same age / value). As long as there is some range left. Even 30-40km.

Gumbo

unkel wrote: »

Probably quite decent money. Problem is, any second hand EV you are trading up to has also kept its value well. That said, if you could sell your 5.5 year old Leaf privately for €11k and get a brand new Ioniq for €26k on the road, that wouldn't be a bad upgrade value for money wise

The problem here is that can an Ioniq be got for €26k now.
I was the one that refreshed that price back in January when I rang every garage, but only 1 in Kildare would offer the 4k scrappage on a banger.

The others wouldn't entertain scrappage on the Ioniq.

Is it still available?

unkel

Only one way to find out. Contact all Hyundai dealers in Ireland (there were 30 of them back in January 2017 when I did that very thing)

Gumbo

unkel wrote: »

Only one way to find out. Contact all Hyundai dealers in Ireland (there were 30 of them back in January 2017 when I did that very thing)

Then search Donedeal for the cheapest car that drives
From memory, they guy told me as long as it drives in safety, they will accept it

Soarer

kceire wrote: »

Then search Donedeal for the cheapest car that drives
From memory, they guy told me as long as it drives in safety, they will accept it

Well don’t get the wife to drive it then!

#WomenDriverJokes

unkel

Again, this completely depends upon the dealer. Hyundai Ireland have guidelines for the scrappage program (like the car having valid NCT and motor tax and being in your name for some time, etc.), but all the dealers have different "interpretations" of this. From anecdotal evidence posted in this forum, some buyers were offered free bangers by the dealers themselves to use for scrappage

From my own experience, some dealers didn't offer scrappage at all, some wanted to know and see everything about my banger and where I eventually bought the car, they hadn't even looked at my banger by the time I had taken possession of my Ioniq and driven off

Mickeroo

kceire wrote: »

The problem here is that can an Ioniq be got for €26k now.
I was the one that refreshed that price back in January when I rang every garage, but only 1 in Kildare would offer the 4k scrappage on a banger.

The others wouldn't entertain scrappage on the Ioniq.

Is it still available?

I got 4k scrappage on a 08 berlingo in January. Both galway and castlebar were willing to do it.

Pretty sure the scrappage deal was stopped in February though.

Hotblack Desiato

unkel wrote: »

Hyundai Ireland have guidelines for the scrappage program (like the car having valid NCT and motor tax and being in your name for some time, etc.), but all the dealers have different "interpretations" of this.

They'll hardly take some scrapheap that arrives on their forecourt on a trailer (or will they? :pac:) so tax and NCT is kinda required

unkel

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

They'll hardly take some scrapheap that arrives on their forecourt on a trailer (or will they? :pac:)

Some do. Some dealers even gave their own scrapheap that was in their yard to the customer for use with the scrappage deal, according to a few owners on here

My own car, they didn't even look at it until I was on my way home in my new Ioniq

Mickeroo

They didn't look at my van until after I had drove away in the Ioniq. I told them it would need 6 or 700 euros worth of work dont to it to get it throught the next CVRT (which was out in a week), I had to pay 400 to my mechanic get it into good enough condition to drive it to the dealership in the first place.

They didn't scrap it either, It changed owners 2 or 3 months after I got the car!

unkel

Mickeroo wrote: »

They didn't scrap it either

Main dealers don't do anything with cars brought in for scrappage schemes. Like any other traded-in car they don't want to sell themselves, these are dumped into the trade and taken away from their forecourt asap

zg3409

Just up 161 Ioniq UK£19,000 red in Canterbury UK with 31,000 miles. Private seller. Still will have 4 years of drivetrain warranty. Search autotrader. The Irish ones on done deal might hold their value better, but I suspect this will be sold shortly:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201906239317764

beanian

You can get a 191 Premium SE for £25k so an extra 6k for a car 3 years newer (if you can live with white!)

Black_Knight

beanian wrote: »

You can get a 191 Premium SE for £25k so an extra 6k for a car 3 years newer (if you can live with white!)

I can't understand the lack of love white gets. Ok, it's a lot more popular (because it was/is cheaper originally), but I think the car looks great in white!


As for the red one, wow! 25 degrees c! I hope we get some summer here soon.

Silent Running

beanian wrote: »

You can get a 191 Premium SE for £25k so an extra 6k for a car 3 years newer (if you can live with white!)

The one you linked is silver.

beanian

Silent Running wrote: »

The one you linked is silver.

Whoops so it is, I had about 10 tabs open. Just goes to show though you can get a 191 Premium SE landed for under €30k.
Hyundai dealer quoted me €34k for a Premium SE (that they imported) on 191 plates ex demo.

Silent Running

Black_Knight wrote: »

I can't understand the lack of love white gets. Ok, it's a lot more popular (because it was/is cheaper originally), but I think the car looks great in white!


As for the red one, wow! 25 degrees c! I hope we get some summer here soon.

White can be nice if balanced out by black roof and/or mirrors and/or grille and any other areas that relieve the starkness of white. No offence to anyone, but the white cars with the grille coloured white look terrible IMHO.