Bottled Guinness: The Great Lie.

ArtSmart

Had to check the label after two. Brewed in Northern Ireland. Bitter sweet? Nope. Just bitter. Sad, sad day and days to come.

uch

Ah you're joshing

Ulysses Gaze

ArtSmart wrote: »

Had to check the label after two. Brewed in Northern Ireland. Bitter sweet? Nope. Just bitter. Sad, sad day and days to come.

Horrific stuff.

OldMrBrennan83

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tomwaterford

ArtSmart wrote: »

Had to check the label after two. Brewed in Northern Ireland. Bitter sweet? Nope. Just bitter. Sad, sad day and days to come.

Bollix....the bottle factory is on the Quay in waterford....know people working there



(This might be just large bottles)

bazz26

Never a fan of Guinness from a bottle.

buried

bazz26 wrote: »

Never a fan of Guinness from a bottle.

The Guinness West Indies Porter is real good stuff

MentalMario

tomwaterford wrote: »

Bollix....the bottle factory is on the Quay in waterford....know people working there



(This might be just large bottles)

Is that not closed?

tomwaterford

MentalMario wrote: »

Is that not closed?

Not yet afaik

ArtSmart

tomwaterford wrote: »

Bollix....the bottle factory is on the Quay in waterford....know people working there



(This might be just large bottles)

This was rhe xmas "XX" small bottles. The normal bottles, (small and large) are as good as they always were. But this muck...

kenmc

bazz26 wrote: »

Never a fan of Guinness from a bottle.

The best way to drink it, has a flavour at least, not like the bland draught swill

ArtSmart

Patww79 wrote: »

I know most Irish beer, including the beardo stuff, is bottled in Station Works in Newry. But 'brewed' is a strange one. Especially to go from here to what is basically a third world country industrially.


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This says " Boucher Rd, Belfast. ". I dont knoe who brewed it, but it's vile.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Went on a session on the large bottles of G once, different alright.

I heaved my guts up at the urinals at the end of the night. Was just standing there taking a piss and the next thing vomit exploded out of my mouth.

Pinch Flat

tomwaterford wrote: »

Bollix....the bottle factory is on the Quay in waterford....know people working there



(This might be just large bottles)

It closed 3 years ago and is now a whiskey distillery.

Pinch Flat

I love a bottle of Guinness and there's a few pubs in Dublin that do it - I'll have it when I'm out when it's available. It's definitely different than the draught stuff.

I'll be down in Waterford over the Christmas break - well known for its "large bottles" of this and other drinks. Looking forward to a few.

murpho999

If you read on the label that it was brewed in Northern Ireland then how are they lying?

dd972

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Went on a session on the large bottles of G once, different alright.

I heaved my guts up at the urinals at the end of the night. Was just standing there taking a piss and the next thing vomit exploded out of my mouth.

As Richard Harris said, 'it was the food'.

Harry Angstrom

I used to drink bottles of Guinness until they came up with the draught can and the widget. It was like switching from candlelight to electric light. Why would anybody want to keep on using candles?

learn_more

Just when we thought 2016 couldn't get any worse.

OldMrBrennan83

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corner of hells

Tis a sad day when Irishmen are lamenting over Guinness.

SEPT 23 1989

James's Gate is just a front it's actually a nuclear power station

Yawns

Pinch Flat wrote: »

I love a bottle of Guinness and there's a few pubs in Dublin that do it - I'll have it when I'm out when it's available. It's definitely different than the draught stuff.

I'll be down in Waterford over the Christmas break - well known for its "large bottles" of this and other drinks. Looking forward to a few.

Most pubs have it but it's out of sight. Just ask the barman if ya don't see it. They wouldn't order as much of it in stock but it's usually ordered in for regulars.

Annasopra

Norn Iron a third world country?

Esel

Off the shelf rather from the cooler every time.

tomwaterford

Esel wrote: »

Off the shelf rather from the cooler every time.

Off the floor,temperature between the shelf and the cooler

For your average awkward ould lad

Sam Kade

bazz26 wrote: »

Never a fan of Guinness from a bottle.

You sad b@stard, Guinness drank straight from a bottle doesen't cause a hangover, it will get you drunk faster but no hangover.

Dr Crayfish

Sam Kade wrote: »

You sad b@stard, Guinness drank straight from a bottle doesen't cause a hangover, it will get you drunk faster but no hangover.

I'll bet you my house and every penny I have that I could get extremely hungover from bottles of Guinness.

Sam Kade

kenmc wrote: »

The best way to drink it, has a flavour at least, not like the bland draught swill

I was at a wedding in Molly Darcy's in Killarney around 9 years back, the draught was sh1te and I asked a young fella behind the bar if he had pint bottles of Guinness, he laughed at me and said they are gone out with years, I said to him with the sh1te you are serving over the counter they'd want to bring them back

Sam Kade

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

I'll bet you my house and every penny I have that I could get extremely hungover from bottles of Guinness.

You're nothing but a whimp then, when I were a young fellow I could drink pint bottles till I'd drop, which was never. Shower of pussies nowadays.

CWF

The pint cans of Guinness are the only way to go!

2forjoy

could never get a kick out of the bottle of stout

Walter2016

Canning and bottling takes place in East Belfast.

"Brewing" sort of takes place. In reality you would probably call it "finishing" as its sent in concentrate form from Dublin.

ArtSmart

Walter2016 wrote: »

Canning and bottling takes place in East Belfast.

"Brewing" sort of takes place. In reality you would probably call it "finishing" as its sent in concentrate form from Dublin.

East Belfast...?

Em...

Noveight

I had bottles of Guinness Foreign Extra and O'Haras Leann Folláin recently and found both were pretty decent.

At the taps Murphy's is ahead of Guinness, imo.

gctest50

Not sure what the OP was on about though - Guinness was Protestant Black Porter

And the Guinness family started the Orange Order in Dublin



might upset a few into that craic

The Guinness family were always very strong unionists and had a strong association with Dublin since Arthur Guinness started his 9000 year lease at St James Gate in 1759. The money from the Guinness family supported many buildings around Dublin, in particular, the Church of Ireland. Though the Guinness family would keep a low key profile in recent times, this wasn’t always the case.

Arthur was strongly against the 1798 rebellion, so much so, that his renamed his drink ‘Protestant Porter’.

The Guinness family also played a crucial role in the forming of the Orange Order in Dublin.

Sephiroth_dude

ArtSmart wrote: »

This says " Boucher Rd, Belfast. ". I dont knoe who brewed it, but it's vile.

Arlene Foster brewed it herself!

Ipso

The divils buttermilk, according to Ian "dry sh1te" Paisley.

kyote00

that explains Guinness farts

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

James's Gate is just a front it's actually a nuclear power station

Esel

The pint bottle is grand.

Noveight

gctest50 wrote: »

Not sure what the OP was on about though - Guinness was Protestant Black Porter

And the Guinness family started the Orange Order in Dublin

Amazing what a strong marketing campaign can make the armchair republicans ignore... :pac:

gozunda

Noveight wrote: »

Amazing what a strong marketing campaign can make the armchair republicans ignore... :pac:

Ah but there is no accounting for genetics ...

Or who Your actual da is ; )

The Guinness family have a little known secret- it would appear that they are descended for the very native (ie Irish) McCartan family originating from the Mourne area of Ulster

See:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7145951.stm

The book explains that where Arthur's genuine ancestors, the McCartans, once lived is a small village called Guiness or Ginnies.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/guinness-familys-origins-smaller-beer-than-thought-26339150.html

gctest50

gozunda wrote: »

.........


The Guinness family have a little known secret- it would appear that they are descended for the very native (ie Irish) McCartan family originating from the Mourne area of Ulster

Turncoat beer then

Can't help where you're born like, but then to go off supporting the other side

The Guinness family also played a crucial role in the forming of the Orange Order in Dublin.

OnDraught

gctest50 wrote: »

Turncoat beer then

Can't help where you're born like, but then to go off supporting the other side

They historically treated their staff extremely well. Something a lot of Irish employer s these days could take example from.

gozunda

gctest50 wrote: »

Turncoat beer then. Can't help where you're born like, but then to go off supporting the other side

Ah selective nationalism - love it ...

If you read between the lines that the Guinnesses could well be actual McCartans of the other side of the blanket type ... perhaps

Of note Arthur Guinnesses family were originally tenant farmers. Arthur inherited £100 pound from a relative and invested it in a brewery lease. He was also a supporter of Henry Gratten (another Protestant!) who advocated for Ireland as an independent nation and who actively campaigned for legislative freedom for the Irish Parliament.

I think you will find that many non Catholics and even some 'turncoats'were heavily involved in 1798 rebellion and also helped pave the way for later Irish Independence.

gctest50

OnDraught wrote: »

They historically treated their staff extremely well. Something a lot of Irish employer s these days could take example from.

The company was alleged to have lent men and equipment to the British army to help crush Irish rebels during the Easter Rising of 1916, afterwards firing members of staff whom it believed to have Irish-nationalist sympathies.

gozunda

gctest50 wrote: »

The company was alleged to have lent men and equipment to the British army to help crush Irish rebels during the Easter Rising of 1916, afterwards firing members of staff whom it believed to have Irish-nationalist sympathies.

Chrxst on a bike you really have the knife out for the entire Guinness family there :rolleyes:

Who is this 'alledgedly' bloke of whom you speak? Whilst we are speaking of urban legends - I hear they used to also use roast babies as part of the brewing process :eek:

Anyway back to the OPs post. A pint of plain is your only man ...

The Workman's Friend"

When things go wrong and will not come right,
Though you do the best you can,
When life looks black as the hour of night -
A pint of plain is your only man.

When money's tight and hard to get
And your horse has also ran,
When all you have is a heap of debt -
A pint of plain is your only man.

When health is bad and your heart feels strange,
And your face is pale and wan,
When doctors say you need a change,
A pint of plain is your only man.

When food is scarce and your larder bare
And no rashers grease your pan,
When hunger grows as your meals are rare -
A pint of plain is your only man.

In time of trouble and lousey strife,
You have still got a darlint plan
You still can turn to a brighter life -
A pint of plain is your only man.

Flann O'Brien

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIrX5MfNedM

gozunda

ArtSmart wrote: »

Had to check the label after two. Brewed in Northern Ireland. Bitter sweet? Nope. Just bitter. Sad, sad day and days to come.

Nothing new or a strange there tbh ..

Guinness has and continues to be brewed and produced in more places than just Dublin

Three of the five Guinness breweries are in Africa
Although Guinness is brewed in 49 countries and sold in 150, Guinness itself owns five breweries worldwide, including St. James Gate in Dublin. One is in Malaysia, and the rest are in Africa, specifically in Nigeria, Ghana and Cameroon. In fact, Nigeria and Cameroon are among the top five markets for Guinness in the world.

However, the Guinness variant popular in Ireland, the UK and the U.S. is not the popular one in Africa, where they prefer the Guinness Extra Foreign Stout, a variant with a much higher alcohol content (7.5%) than the draft (around 4.0%).

https://uk.askmen.com/entertainment/special_feature_300/336_guinness-5-things-you-didnt-know.html

whisky_galore

gctest50 wrote: »

The company was alleged to have lent men and equipment to the British army to help crush Irish rebels during the Easter Rising of 1916, afterwards firing members of staff whom it believed to have Irish-nationalist sympathies.

Who cares?

ArtSmart

Opps...

Ok, No more Black Proddie Porter jokes from me.

Bought the Guinness XX six pk today. This time, it was fairly drinkable. Must've read this thread last year...

Still not quite up to the old small bottles, ie, the pint bottles you get in some pubs. Why not just sell that, Mr Arthur Mc Diageo or whatever you calll yerself these days?

Chrongen

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Went on a session on the large bottles of G once, different alright.

I heaved my guts up at the urinals at the end of the night. Was just standing there taking a piss and the next thing vomit exploded out of my mouth.

Puked while in mid-piss? Did you not blow your arse out as well? Happened to me once after a heavy session. Standing pissing into the jacks when suddenly I wretched and projectile heaved onto the cistern and simultaneously filled my toggs at the back end as well.

Bad day.