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Is Santa Clause becoming an unacceptable figure in this political correct age?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭indioblack


    Arghus wrote: »
    If he was real....
    You mean he's.......what are you saying?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,915 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Saipanne wrote: »

    A keyboard hero.
    Touché


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    learn_more wrote: »
    Ever seen a black eskimo?

    Ever seen a Caucasian eskimo? Any I've seen have had dark-ish skin similar to (native American) Indians. According to Google, they're most closely related to Mongolians.

    So if we're being pedantic then Santa should either look Mongolian (based on geography) or Turkish (based on the original Saint Nick). Not the white Santa we grew up with!


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,653 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    PC is so last year. A thing of the past. 2016 is the year of Farage, the Trump, and indeed Santa....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Beasty wrote: »
    PC is so last year. A thing of the past. 2016 is the year of Farage, the Trump, and indeed Santa....

    Gwan the Trump!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    I'll take that bet :D

    You lost the bet and the examples you provide, unsurprisingly, are not attributable to political correctness. Those are examples of child protection (perhaps a little OTT) not PCGM.

    Those who rail against "special snowflakes" are perhaps the most eternally butthurt people on the internet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,729 ✭✭✭Arne_Saknussem


    You lost the bet and the examples you provide, unsurprisingly, are not attributable to political correctness. Those are examples of child protection (perhaps a little OTT) not PCGM.

    Those who rail against "special snowflakes" are perhaps the most eternally butthurt people on the internet.

    Bollocks i did.
    neris wrote: »
    its happened already. kids dont get to sit on santas knee anymore in a lot of places
    You're on a thread where someone has imagined fictional complaints about Santa to rail against. Who are the serial whingers here? I'd bet good money this thing about not being allowed sit on Santa's lap is also a figment of someone's imagination as well.


    Read the thread before talking through your arse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Patty O Furniture


    indioblack wrote: »
    You mean he's.......what are you saying?!

    :eek: Don't even go there, of all days, think of the children!

    For all ye know, maybe he has arthritis :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Bollocks i did.

    You lost the bet because you don't understand the difference between Political Correctness and Child Protection.

    Here you go.
    political correctness

    the avoidance, often considered as taken to extremes, of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭Academic


    I’m always amused by people who complain about the commercialization of Christmas as if it’s a recent phenomenon. Hell, Santa Claus wasn’t fat, jolly, or even dressed in red until Coca Cola introduced the character in a 1930s advertising campaign. Read about it here:

    http://www.npr.org/2016/12/20/506215632/how-red-and-green-became-the-colors-of-christmas

    For that matter, the holiday itself wasn’t widely celebrated in the English-speaking world until the mid-nineteenth century. As Ronald Hutton remarks in the chapter “The Reinvention of Christmas” in his book The Stations of the Sun: A History of the Ritual Year in Britain (OUP), “In twenty of the years between 1790 and 1835 The Times did not mention the festival, and it never referred to it with enthusiasm. To the fashionable world it was increasingly an anachronism, and a bore.” A great book, by the way.

    Happy Festivus everyone …

    Cheers,

    Ac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,113 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,729 ✭✭✭Arne_Saknussem


    You lost the bet because you don't understand the difference between Political Correctness and Child Protection.

    Here you go.

    It was covered in the OP.
    Roger_007 wrote: »
    White, (racial stereotype?), male,(gender stereotype?), overweight, drinks and drives/flies, sneaks into children's bedrooms late at night, gives presents to children, (grooming?).
    Is it only a matter of time before he becomes a victim of the PC brigade?

    So if your argument is reduced to the semantics of the OP's use of the phrase 'PC' then you don't really have an argument at all.

    Not to mention 'PC' wasn't used in the post about kids being stopped sitting on Santa's knee.

    You're wrong, and probably drunk. Time for bed! ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Not to mention 'PC' wasn't used in the post about kids being stopped sitting on Santa's knee.

    Fair point. I concede.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Vincent Vega




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    White, (racial stereotype?), male,(gender stereotype?), overweight, drinks and drives/flies, sneaks into children's bedrooms late at night, gives presents to children, (grooming?).
    Is it only a matter of time before he becomes a victim of the PC brigade?

    Yes it probably is only a matter of time but it's people like you dreaming up ridiculous BS like above that are driving the rest of the saddo's with nothing else going on in their pathetic life's to come up with something to complain about.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,508 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    learn_more wrote: »
    But if you have a black santa AND a white one, won't even the kids twig that one of them can't be real.

    Anyway, how could santa be black when he originates/lives in the f*uckin NORTH POLE. Ever seen a black eskimo?

    I've certainly never seen a white one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hans Bricks


    Jesus, I wouldn't let imaginery hypotheticals of insufferable far lefties dictating Santa's image upset you OP.

    It'd be a pipe dream of theirs and nothing more. Relax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    neris wrote:
    its happened already. kids dont get to sit on santas knee anymore in a lot of places
    Jesus the serial whingers have to ruin everything don't they!

    Being a Santa would attract half the paedo in the area. We know this now do why not act to safeguard children? Or should we never interfere with tradition?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Being a Santa would attract half the paedo in the area. We know this now do why not act to safeguard children? Or should we never interfere with tradition?


    Pretty sure you have to get Garda clearance as the cousin works in one of the santy places in the local shopping centre and even she had too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    Being a Santa would attract half the paedo in the area. We know this now do why not act to safeguard children? Or should we never interfere with tradition?

    Yeah, it's a well known fact that all Santas are paedos. GAA coaches, scout leaders, creche workers, teachers etc. The list is endless. Much drink last night?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭Duck Soup


    Jesus wept. We're now reduced to complaining that people aren't complaining about an opportunity for political correctness.

    It's political incorrectness gone mad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    You're on a thread where someone has imagined fictional complaints about Santa to rail against. Who are the serial whingers here? I'd bet good money this thing about not being allowed sit on Santa's lap is also a figment of someone's imagination as well.

    Unfortunately it's not, quite a few Santas that I've been to don't allow the knee sitting. There's a stool beside Santa that the kids sit on instead. Not all, the one in Arnotts you can sit on his knee, but then he's actually the real Santa so maybe that's why!
    Being a Santa would attract half the paedo in the area. We know this now do why not act to safeguard children? Or should we never interfere with tradition?

    Anyone working with children now has to be Garda vetted, so there are procedures in place to safeguard them. I'm not sure what more you want, really?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Pretty sure you have to get Garda clearance as the cousin works in one of the santy places in the local shopping centre and even she had too

    Ha! An opportunity to have hundreds of children come sit on your lap would be noticed by every pervert, person with attraction to children, sexual deviant, etc, in the area. Garda clearance will filter out the ones who have ever been caught/under suspicion - not great odds.

    There's no need for the child to sit on a stranger's lap. Do people go around encouraging their children to sit on many stranger's laps or just Santa's lap? (Read the first sentence again).
    Advbrd wrote:
    Yeah, it's a well known fact that all Santas are paedos. GAA coaches, scout leaders, creche workers, teachers etc. The list is endless. Much drink last night?

    If you think so, but that's not what I said.

    I'm completely sure theose jobs attract paedos at a greater rate than jobs that don't involve children. So we put extra safeguards in place in those jobs -no need for children to sit on Santa's knee. Is logic too PC for you this morning?

    Logic is political correctness gone mad - treats stupid people's ideas unfairly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Anyone working with children now has to be Garda vetted, so there are procedures in place to safeguard them. I'm not sure what more you want, really?

    If we have learned anything about sexual deviants it's that only a fraction of them ever committ a large-scale harmful crime. Most of the rest of them just fit into society. They used to be the people who grabbed side-boob and made people a bit uncomfortable.

    What do I want? Safeguards to acknowledge the fact that most deviants will never show up on Garda clearance. Safeguards like children not sitting on Santa's lap for example.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    If we have learned anything about sexual deviants it's that only a fraction of them ever committ a large-scale harmful crime. Most of the rest of them just fit into society. They used to be the people who grabbed side-boob and made people a bit uncomfortable.

    What do I want? Safeguards to acknowledge the fact that most deviants will never show up on Garda clearance. Safeguards like children not sitting on Santa's lap for example.

    What do you think they do to the kids who sit on their laps with their parents and a couple of elves standing beside them though? I mean they literally sit on the edge of their knee for the time it takes to get a photo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    What do you think they do to the kids who sit on their laps with their parents and a couple of elves standing beside them though? I mean they literally sit on the edge of their knee for the time it takes to get a photo.

    Most Santa's do nothing more than the job description. The deviants will always be pushing boundaries to take sexual gratification from the physical contact.

    Is sitting on strangers' laps something you would often encourage children to do?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    Most Santa's do nothing more than the job description. The deviants will always be pushing boundaries to take sexual gratification from the physical contact.

    Is sitting on strangers' laps something you would often encourage children to do?

    No just at Christmas :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    No just at Christmas

    Glad to hear that. It's a strange enough thing to encourage children to sit on strangers laps at any time of year. At least you're only at it got a few weeks a year.

    Small children understand how rules work. Especially when the rules are allpied inconsistently, right?


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Given he is Santa as in a saint, and he is dead and 6 feet below rather than at the North Pole...shouldn't people just say the Finnish people are simply pedalling a lie with their Lapland Santa... :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    Glad to hear that. It's a strange enough thing to encourage children to sit on strangers laps at any time of year. At least you're only at it got a few weeks a year.

    Small children understand how rules work. Especially when the rules are allpied inconsistently, right?

    I'm not so terrified of the world that I would freak out if my kid was to speak to a man I didn't know or even sit on his knee. I'm not likely to let my children be in the company of strangers on their own so what's going to happen them when I'm standing there.

    I'm sure you know that statically a child is more likely to be abuse by someone they know than a stranger anyway. Do we tell them never to sit on anyone's knee or how would you deal with that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I'm not so terrified of the world that I would freak out if my kid was to speak to a man I didn't know or even sit on his knee. I'm not likely to let my children be in the company of strangers on their own so what's going to happen them when I'm standing there.

    Ok you're taking this personally I'm sure you're a wonderful parent, particularly when you're not encouraging your children to give a stranger in a Santa suit a pseudo lapdance.

    On a group level it's prudent to remove any realistic opportunities for sexual gratification from the job.
    I'm sure you know that statically a child is more likely to be abuse by someone they know than a stranger anyway. Do we tell them never to sit on anyone's knee or how would you deal with that?
    Why are you so sure sitting on Santa's lap us such an important part of the Santa experience. Is sitting on Santa's lap more important for you or the child?

    Strikes me that sitting on Santa's lap is a small part


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    Ok you're taking this personally I'm sure you're a wonderful parent, particularly when you're not encouraging your children to give a stranger in a Santa suit a pseudo lapdance.

    On a group level it's prudent to remove any realistic opportunities for sexual gratification from the job.


    Why are you so sure sitting on Santa's lap us such an important part of the Santa experience. Is sitting on Santa's lap more important for you or the child?

    Strikes me that sitting on Santa's lap is a small part

    :pac:

    I haven't taken it personally at all. I just find it odd that people have such a negative view of the world. Psuedo lapdance? Your posts are the ones coming off as personalised and kinda creepy tbh.

    I don't think sitting on Santas lap is all that important, I'm just disappointed that the world is getting to a point where we assume the worst of men because of a few bad eggs.

    Edit: actually the more I think of you describing a child sitting on someone's knee as a lapdance the more I think that you must have some deep rooted issues there that I'm unlikely to understand. I'm sorry if this discussion has touched a nerve with you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Political correctness gone imadginary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09



    Do you're fine with removing the pap sitting? Why all the song and dance if it's not a problem? Implement the safeguards and be done with it.




    I don't think sitting on Santas lap is all that important, I'm just disappointed that the world is getting to a point where we assume the worst of men because of a few bad eggs.

    We don't assume the worst unless we're morons. We learn from experience and safeguard.

    So you're fine with removing the lap sitting? Why all the song and dance if it's not a problem? Implement the safeguards and be done with it.
    Edit: actually the more I think of you describing a child sitting on someone's knee as a lapdance the more I think that you must have some deep rooted issues there that I'm unlikely to understand. I'm sorry if this discussion has touched a nerve with you.

    I studied the psychology of sexual offenders for years. I didn't take the career path in the end. So yes you're right. I do have an understanding of these things that you'll likely never have. Well spotted by you.

    I can't get my head around why someone would willingly put their child on a stranger's lap when that behaviour would be rightly seen as shoddy parenting behaviour in any other situation.

    A sexual deviant in a Santa suit would be delighted to see your posts so willing to place their children in that deviant's lap.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭me_right_one


    Saipanne wrote: »
    Yeah, no such thing as politically correct nutters. It's not like I've ever met such people in real life. It's not like these people smear their poison all over my social media feed. It's not like their agenda dominates the likes of The Guardian, to the extent that a once great periodical is practically unreadable. The current shift of the working class to the right has nothing to do with the hijacking of the left by middle class identity politics.

    No, none of this is happening. Trump, Brexit, Wilders, Le Pen. It's all because "racists" have magically just appeared out of nowhere. What worries me the most is not this rise of the right, it's the lefts inability to acknowledge the reasons why.

    Merry Christmas. :)

    + 9987452364592876.

    I think I'll print that off and stick it up at work. Might waken up a few dozy SJW's


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Saipanne wrote: »
    Yeah, no such thing as politically correct nutters. It's not like I've ever met such people in real life. It's not like these people smear their poison all over my social media feed. It's not like their agenda dominates the likes of The Guardian, to the extent that a once great periodical is practically unreadable. The current shift of the working class to the right has nothing to do with the hijacking of the left by middle class identity politics.

    No, none of this is happening. Trump, Brexit, Wilders, Le Pen. It's all because "racists" have magically just appeared out of nowhere. What worries me the most is not this rise of the right, it's the lefts inability to acknowledge the reasons why.

    Merry Christmas. :)

    Spot on.

    And Merry Christmas to you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    We don't assume the worst unless we're morons. We learn from experience and safeguard.

    So you're fine with removing the lap sitting? Why all the song and dance if it's not a problem? Implement the safeguards and be done with it.



    I studied the psychology of sexual offenders for years. I didn't take the career path in the end. So yes you're right. I do have an understanding of these things that you'll likely never have. Well spotted by you.

    I can't get my head around why someone would willingly put their child on a stranger's lap when that behaviour would be rightly seen as shoddy parenting behaviour in any other situation.

    A sexual deviant in a Santa suit would be delighted to see your posts so willing to place their children in that deviant's lap.

    Oh God I better delete all my posts.

    I'd say there's Santas lining up outside my house already looking for a lapdance :(

    :p

    Seriously dude. Chill out! You'll give yourself a coronary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Is Santa Clause becoming an unacceptable figure in this political correct age?

    NO

    We all love Santa just the way he is ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    I was always a bit confused when Santy got his c0ck out in Clearys. Wasn't sure what to do. The Dudes posts have me now wondering what ancient Christmas memories might I be repressing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Ok you're taking this personally I'm sure you're a wonderful parent, particularly when you're not encouraging your children to give a stranger in a Santa suit a pseudo lapdance.

    On a group level it's prudent to remove any realistic opportunities for sexual gratification from the job.


    Why are you so sure sitting on Santa's lap us such an important part of the Santa experience. Is sitting on Santa's lap more important for you or the child?

    Strikes me that sitting on Santa's lap is a small part

    Taking it way too seriously dude. If a kid wants to sit on Santa's lap for two minutes once a year in full view of parents, other staff etc what is the problem?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭infogiver


    We don't assume the worst unless we're morons. We learn from experience and safeguard.

    So you're fine with removing the lap sitting? Why all the song and dance if it's not a problem? Implement the safeguards and be done with it.



    I studied the psychology of sexual offenders for years. I didn't take the career path in the end. So yes you're right. I do have an understanding of these things that you'll likely never have. Well spotted by you.

    I can't get my head around why someone would willingly put their child on a stranger's lap when that behaviour would be rightly seen as shoddy parenting behaviour in any other situation.

    A sexual deviant in a Santa suit would be delighted to see your posts so willing to place their children in that deviant's lap.

    All over the western world parents queued in these last few weeks to place their child in the lap of a Santa. Thousands of Santas, millions of parents and children.
    Yet you feel free to accuse them all, every single one, of bad parenting, with you having absolutely no qualifications whatsoever to take that position.
    If you see a queue at a Santas Grotto in December and your only reaction is that the Santa is a paedophile and that these parents are paedophile enablers then you definitely need to speak to someone who can help you.
    Can you provide a link to a study of adults who claim to have been assaulted by a Santa while sitting in his lap, for instance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,915 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec



    Do you're fine with removing the pap sitting? Why all the song and dance if it's not a problem? Implement the safeguards and be done with it.




    I don't think sitting on Santas lap is all that important, I'm just disappointed that the world is getting to a point where we assume the worst of men because of a few bad eggs.

    We don't assume the worst unless we're morons. We learn from experience and safeguard.

    So you're fine with removing the lap sitting? Why all the song and dance if it's not a problem? Implement the safeguards and be done with it.
    Edit: actually the more I think of you describing a child sitting on someone's knee as a lapdance the more I think that you must have some deep rooted issues there that I'm unlikely to understand. I'm sorry if this discussion has touched a nerve with you.

    I studied the psychology of sexual offenders for years. I didn't take the career path in the end. So yes you're right. I do have an understanding of these things that you'll likely never have. Well spotted by you.

    I can't get my head around why someone would willingly put their child on a stranger's lap when that behaviour would be rightly seen as shoddy parenting behaviour in any other situation.

    A sexual deviant in a Santa suit would be delighted to see your posts so willing to place their children in that deviant's lap.
    Dude, you're being very undude.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Just look at the whole US fundamentalist churches take on - Santa is Satan - it's Poe's law on overdrive.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    “All right," said Susan. "I'm not stupid. You're saying humans need... fantasies to make life bearable."

    REALLY? AS IF IT WAS SOME KIND OF PINK PILL? NO. HUMANS NEED FANTASY TO BE HUMAN. TO BE THE PLACE WHERE THE FALLING ANGEL MEETS THE RISING APE.

    "Tooth fairies? Hogfathers? Little—"

    YES. AS PRACTICE. YOU HAVE TO START OUT LEARNING TO BELIEVE THE LITTLE LIES.

    "So we can believe the big ones?"

    YES. JUSTICE. MERCY. DUTY. THAT SORT OF THING.

    "They're not the same at all!"

    YOU THINK SO? THEN TAKE THE UNIVERSE AND GRIND IT DOWN TO THE FINEST POWDER AND SIEVE IT THROUGH THE FINEST SIEVE AND THEN SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE, ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY. AND YET—Death waved a hand. AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED.

    "Yes, but people have got to believe that, or what's the point—"

    MY POINT EXACTLY.”


    ― Terry Pratchett, Hogfather


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    infogiver wrote:
    All over the western world parents queued in these last few weeks to place their child in the lap of a Santa. Thousands of Santas, millions of parents and children. Yet you feel free to accuse them all, every single one, of bad parenting, with you having absolutely no qualifications whatsoever to take that position.

    Well what I said is that outing your child on a stranger's lap would usually be seen as shoddy parenting -because of obvious reasons. I stand by that assertion. Maybe you disagree. Maybe it's just a strawman argument.

    infogiver wrote:
    If you see a queue at a Santas Grotto in December and your only reaction is that the Santa is a paedophile and that these parents are paedophile enablers then you definitely need to speak to someone who can help you.

    Where this nonsense coming from? Nothing I said that's for sure.
    infogiver wrote:
    Can you provide a link to a study of adults who claim to have been assaulted by a Santa while sitting in his lap, for instance?

    Can I provide a link to support your strawman argument? No, obviously not.

    I'll just stick to discussing the points I make instead of the ones you've made up.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭Stealthfins


    People in society who think like you make me wary,and it scares me.

    Sure we'll ban men from smiling to themselves when kids are around, I remember when I was a kid an old local guy used to come down and watch us fishing down by the pier and told us stories about the conger eels he used to carch in Yarmouth in England,the cod they caught in the north east of england during the winter.
    He used to smile and come over when one of us would catch a dogfish or ray,he'd show us how to unhook it and throw it back unharmed.

    Today some twisted sick parents would think he's a paedo,pervert, potential front page news story,maybe a child killer.
    They would then create a fcking witch hunt,and ruin this guys life, he'd no longer be able to sit at the pier watching kids fishing,bringing back fond memories of his own childhood...
    Because some pricks saying he's weird and a potential pervert, yes you im describing you would create a witch hunt,not you though youre not like that your not paranoid...

    Poor old guy living out his last days due to some btch and prick ruining his life.....my kids my kids my kids....

    Im writing this now and am worried in case youre sitting down with your kids and my phone is tilted in front of you and your delicate position...
    I could be a potential pervert taking photos,but no im not im answering a post on boards.ie

    So fck u and people like you and what direction you're thinking....

    That old man passed away and we were all sad about it,he was a kind old soul...

    Sometimes 30 years later when were fishing one of us will say remember old Jock who used to watch us fishing....such a sweet old man
    .....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Well what I said is that outing your child on a stranger's lap would usually be seen as shoddy parenting -because of obvious reasons.

    What percentage, of these Santa's. Would you reckon are deviant sexual predators?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    infogiver wrote:
    Can you provide a link to a study of adults who claim to have been assaulted by a Santa while sitting in his lap, for instance?

    This is an interesting point though. A deviant with an attraction to children would clearly see children sitting on their lap as a birthday present. They are obviously more likely to apply for the job of Santa than a job that doesn't involve children -along with the normal people who do the job.

    So why do you need research to safeguard against the obvious risks? We just acknowledge the elevated risk and out safeguards in place.

    It's so simple. Strange to want to wait for research about abuse cases to act.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭Stealthfins


    This is an interesting point though. A deviant with an attraction to children would clearly see children sitting on their lap as a birthday present. They are obviously more likely to apply for the job of Santa than a job that doesn't involve children -along with the normal people who do the job.


    Same can be said about doctors in a kids hospital,or school teachers....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,915 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    I can't get my head around why someone would willingly put their child on a stranger's lap when that behaviour would be rightly seen as shoddy parenting behaviour in any other situation.


    People in society who think like you make me wary,and it scares me.

    Sure we'll ban men from smiling to themselves when kids are around, I remember when I was a kid an old local guy used to come down and watch us fishing down by the pier and told us stories about the conger eels he used to carch in Yarmouth in England,the cod they caught in the north east of england during the winter.
    He used to smile and come over when one of us would catch a dogfish or ray,he'd show us how to unhook it and throw it back unharmed.

    Today some twisted sick parents would think he's a paedo,pervert, potential front page news story,maybe a child killer.
    They would then create a fcking witch hunt,and ruin this guys life, he'd no longer be able to sit at the pier watching kids fishing,bringing back fond memories of his own childhood...
    Because some pricks saying he's weird and a potential pervert, yes you im describing you would create a witch hunt,not you though youre not like that your not paranoid...

    Poor old guy living out his last days due to some btch and prick ruining his life.....my kids my kids my kids....

    Im writing this now and am worried in case youre sitting down with your kids and my phone is tilted in front of you and your delicate position...
    I could be a potential pervert taking photos,but no im not im answering a post on boards.ie

    So fck u and people like you and what direction you're thinking....

    That old man passed away and we were all sad about it,he was a kind old soul...

    Sometimes 30 years later when were fishing one of us will say remember old Jock who used to watch us fishing....such a sweet old man
    .....
    Eh, ignoring your weird ramblings for a second, I DIDN'T POST THAT. You can apologise whenever you're ready.


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