Gameweek 18 Matchday Thread. 3pm teams in OP

Iused2likebusts

Scorpion Sting wrote: »

You thinking about wildcarding early this season Busts?

I don't plan to. I'm reasonably happy with my team at the minute. However a couple of injuries etc could change that. I wouldn't hold a wildcard for the dgws if I wasn't happy with my team though.

spock.

69(-8)

Good week that could have been a great week. Alli and Pedro with nice surprising hauls.

Iused2likebusts

FHFC wrote: »

Of course he flipping will!!

Haha Very true. I have never made it past gw 3 without using my wildcard or the first weekend of Jan for the second wildcard. In all my years playing this game.

Thepoet85

61 all out. Poor captaincy and Kane not doing it for 3 weeks on the bounce.

Scorpion Sting

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I don't plan to. I'm reasonably happy with my team at the minute. However a couple of injuries etc could change that. I wouldn't hold a wildcard for the dgws if I wasn't happy with my team though.

My team is pretty similar to yours but I'm thinking of wildcarding. I'm not happy with a good few players and have a couple of replacements in mind.

iroced

85 (-4). 2 H2H wins. . Up to 156k from 301k. Same next GW and it'll be good .

My last min (-4) (Jaku to Heaton) broke even (Foster 5er vs Heaton 9er). I'm back in the GK rotation camp for a couple of GWs. Hopefully it'll pay off. After those I'll have a decision to make...

A very much needed good GWs with Pedro & Eriksen whom I both thought of transferring out at some point, being my main differentials. And finally and most importantly a good captain with Ibra.

This GW actually makes me wish for an alternate no (C) ranking. I'd love to see the difference this could make. I feel it'd favour the overall better "skilled" teams vs the ones getting away with murder thanks to captaincy points from times to times.
- edit - It'd need to be assessed properly but I feel the bumps and falls in OR related to captain success or failures are way too big IMO.

km79

Up to 86k from 154k
Been jumping in and out of top 100k every second week !

Benimar

80 points sees me rise from 215k to 110k. Badly needed after 3 sub par weeks.

bantee

Up to 75k after a 73, missing Liverpool/Spurs mids the last couple of weeks costing me

Scorpion Sting

66 points and up to 187k from 235k.

FHFC

Up to 167k

The fact that that's only my 5th green arrow this season perhaps explains why Im a bit jaded with the whole thing.

Iused2likebusts

88 gave me a huge jump 315k to 135k. If I'd played alli it would have been an unbelievable week. Needed a week like that to get me back in the mix in paid leagues.

Mike Ehrmantraut

What a difference a gw makes, or more importantly, what a difference captaincy can make.
Dropped 70k last week with Kane captained, and back up 65k this week with 82pts getting lucky with the 50/50 captaincy call between Ibra/Sanchez

savemefrom

The addition of Harry Kane the last 3 week's has ruined me. Loads of spurs goals but he only chipped in with one goal , no assists and a missed penalty

Iused2likebusts

Scorpion Sting wrote: »

My team is pretty similar to yours but I'm thinking of wildcarding. I'm not happy with a good few players and have a couple of replacements in mind.

which players are you not happy with. Origi , amat and siggy for me but I hope to bank this week to give me 2 ft next week.

AdpRo

Bad week for me, 52 and a drop of 5k to 15k overall. The Costa yellow last week was so bad for me, I was ahead of the game with Ibra getting him rather than Kane for Kun a few weeks back. Everyone then got him in this week instead of Costa and 99% captained him while I went with Sanchez. I was leading the December monthly leagues in most of my ML but have dropped out of contention in all bar 1 after this week!

Necronomicon

81 sees me back up to around 125k, having a bit of a yo-yo few weeks. Out of the relegation zone in the FSA League 2 for the first time all season too which is nice, tough league!

wanderer100

61 sees me jump just 35k to 290k

Green arrows so can't complain:)

raiders11

68, up to 41k..

Mr. Guappa

69, up to 53k

ArmaniJeanss

54 points and down a few thousand spots to 275K.
Trying to keep repeating the 'you were 600K this time last year and finished 17K' mantra to help keep going.
Ibra captain instead of Sanchez would have been 12 more points, and the Grant/Pickford tossup was 3 points and these would have made a big difference.
And then the Kane penalty, urggghhh

FHFC

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

54 points and down a few thousand spots to 275K.
Trying to keep repeating the 'you were 600K this time last year and finished 17K' mantra to help keep going.
Ibra captain instead of Sanchez would have been 12 more points, and the Grant/Pickford tossup was 3 points and these would have made a big difference.
And then the Kane penalty, urggghhh

Same. Kane pen and Sanchez c cost 20 points. Twenty!

I was 980k around this time last year and finished 15k.

Scorpion Sting

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

which players are you not happy with. Origi , amat and siggy for me but I hope to bank this week to give me 2 ft next week.

Siggy, Amat, Carroll for a start. Pickford is out injured and Friend looks like he's a rotation risk now as well. Liverpool have a very tough run of fixtures coming up too so I don't think Firmino will be staying in my team much longer. I'd like to get Bellerin in for Arsenal's good run and I think I'll be getting on the Aguero train for the Burnley match.

Fowler87

Iused2likebusts wrote:

88 gave me a huge jump 315k to 135k. If I'd played alli it would have been an unbelievable week. Needed a week like that to get me back in the mix in paid leagues.

May ask how you avoided playing Alli? Premium midfielder I'd find it hard to drop myself

Iused2likebusts

Fowler87 wrote: »

May ask how you avoided playing Alli? Premium midfielder I'd find it hard to drop myself

Sanchez siggy hazard firmino alli Carroll origi ibra is my front 8. They all had good fixtures it came down to Carroll origi or alli to bench.

manual_man

66(-8) up 10k to 505k, believe I can make ground 2nd half of the season team in good shape don't feel need to wildcard early and TC and BB in my pocket

wonski

59 points, small rise of 60k to 969k overall.

Won my cup game 59-58:D

Fowler87

Iused2likebusts wrote:

Sanchez siggy hazard firmino alli Carroll origi ibra is my front 8. They all had good fixtures it came down to Carroll origi or alli to bench.

Fair enough good week then by all accounts. Could have been the week to play the AOA chip with those options!

extra gravy

FHFC wrote: »

Same. Kane pen and Sanchez c cost 20 points. Twenty!

I was 980k around this time last year and finished 15k.

That makes me feel better. Finished top 2k last two years and now languishing at 400k. Don't think I'm going to make it 3 in a row though.

Iused2likebusts

Fowler87 wrote: »

Fair enough good week then by all accounts. Could have been the week to play the AOA chip with those options!

Ye in hindsight it was. I used it a good few weeks ago with capoue as my 8th attacker which wasn't a great idea.

Sooner or Later

74, bringing me up from 256k to 161k

mcgettigan16

73 sees a rise to 56k from 93k. A solid gameweek after two shockers.

dsmythy

69 turns 308k into 227k

iroced

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Ye in hindsight it was. I used it a good few weeks ago with capoue as my 8th attacker which wasn't a great idea.

The other way to look at it is had you used it this GW Siggy would have made it a "fail" as Capoue did for you earlier.
I mean we're all expecting a BB with our 8 attackers returning but that very very rarely does happen in reality.
Then it comes down to chosing your benched player. That's the con of the strong front 8 strategy but I know you're prepared for that kind of misfortune .

Klonker

iroced wrote: »

The other way to look at it is had you used it this GW Siggy would have made it a "fail" as Capoue did for you earlier.
I mean we're all expecting a BB with our 8 attackers returning but that very very rarely does happen in reality.
Then it comes down to chosing your benched player. That's the con of the strong front 8 strategy but I know you're prepared for that kind of misfortune .

Siggy's 2 points would not have made it a fail if he used his AOA this week. It's a straight shoot out between your 3rd defender you would have picked if you didn't use AOA and your 8th attacker you would have benched if you didn't use AOA, everybody else's score is irrelevant.

Iused2likebusts

iroced wrote: »

The other way to look at it is had you used it this GW Siggy would have made it a "fail" as Capoue did for you earlier.
I mean we're all expecting a BB with our 8 attackers returning but that very very rarely does happen in reality.
Then it comes down to chosing your benched player. That's the con of the strong front 8 strategy but I know you're prepared for that kind of misfortune .

That's not true . You can't just pick the player that scored worst for you and say he was my bench player. I never considered benching siggy this gw. It was origi Carroll or alli and I benched alli so he is the player to compare it to. When I had capoue in my team he was on my bench every gw that's very different to the situation I have now. I have a real decision to make as I have 8 good options. The mistake I felt I made was playing aoa when I had a really poor defence a good few gws ago rather than playing it when I had 8 good attackers. As mentioned above I did gain a point or 2 the week I played aoa as capoue outscored my benched defender . I do think its a chip based on luck however you can give yourself a better chance of being rewarded higher which in hindsight I don't think I did this year.

iroced

@ klonker & Busts: You did not get my point. My point is there's always a way to look at (y)our score in a positive or negative way. And both are wrong or at least not as fair as we'd like to think they are.

To make it fair, you have to take into account every single decision you're going to make from now on up to the GW you'll be playing your BB. e.g. If you prepapre for it like many of us did last year, than the comparison will become very very complex 'cause you'll have to factor in all the players you'll get in the previous GWs to build your BB. Same if you WC. The real question becomes "what would you have done, how would you have played (even several GWs before you eventually use your BB) without your BB"? And how would it have affected your scoring? Every decision we make influence the subsequent ones. Itr's a crazy mess to try and compare fairly. And I sadly know I'm the only crazy one to have run it once :pac:...

But maybe let's not get into our traditional yearly philosophical debate about our own maniaco-obsessive theories :pac:...

Iused2likebusts

iroced wrote: »

@ klonker & Busts: You did not get my point. My point is there's always a way to look at (y)our score in a positive or negative way. And both are wrong or at least not as fair as we'd like to think they are.

To make it fair, you have to take into account every single decision you're going to make from now on up to the GW you'll be playing your BB. e.g. If you prepapre for it like many of us did last year, than the comparison will become very very complex 'cause you'll have to factor in all the players you'll get in the previous GWs to build your BB. Same if you WC. The real question becomes "what would you have done, how would you have played (even several GWs before you eventually use your BB) without your BB"? And how would it have affected your scoring? Every decision we make influence the subsequent ones. Itr's a crazy mess to try and compare fairly. And I sadly know I'm the only crazy one to have run it once :pac:...

But maybe let's not get into our traditional yearly philosophical debate about our own maniaco-obsessive theories :pac:...

Your overcomplicating things we are talking about aoa not bb. I'm not complaining about having the alli points on the bench I know the pros and cons of having to deal with a strong front 8. It was suggested to me I should have played aoa unfortunately I'd already used it. In hindsight looking back I didn't use it at an optimal time and that is something I have learnt for next year. I don't judge my decision making on performance I judge it on the chance of succeeding. I played my aoa when I had a poor defence and played capoue I would have been better playing it last gw as I had a poor defence and then alli to come in. Alli is a much better 8th attacker rather than capoue regardless of the outcome so I'd class it as a lesson learned for myself.

iroced

@ Busts: I know what you did and why you did it. I'm not criticising it nor saying you should have done differently. We all make mistakes and get unlucky at times anyway.

But I rest my case about the complexity of assessing whether a decision was good or bad. Isolating 1 GW doesn't make sense to me. 'Cause the decison(s) you make for that GW were influenced by the ones you made the previous GW(s) and will influence the ones you'll make for the following GW(s). I had this discussion with FHFC last year about the chips and I don't look at them isolatedly. I look at them as a whole, as part of the whole season.

So this GW you lost 7 min 10 max points from not playing your BB IMSMR. The easy deceptive way to assess your BB is looking at how many points you'll hopefully gain when you'll use it But it'll be wrong 'cause you just have no idea what your team would have looked like had you already played your BB. You may have planned it several GWs earlier so these transfers will impact not only your BB but several GWs before and after. You may have taken hits. You may have WCed. etc... etc... I'm talking about everything. AOA, BB, TC, every single transfer you make, every captain you choose, etc... Because, and you above all know it very well 'cause for example you choose your premium players on their captaincy appeal, these decisions constantly change your further choices.

e.g. I own Pedro instead of Hazard 'cause I feel Hazard is not as important as Sanchez, Aguero, Costa, Ibra, Kane as a (C) option. Now he's suspended. Do I transfer him out this GW or not considering he should play the next one? Well this decision, this potential pts hits this week or next is all due to my choice several GWs ago of going Pedro over Hazard. This decision also trigerred myself going Sanchez over Walcott. Kane over Defoe.. Having 2 premium strikers also triggered myself going for De Roon instead of a strong front 8. I went back to 3-4-3 after what I considered a failed attempt to go 3-5-2. etc... My point is all these decisions HAVE to be factored in when you play a chip 'cause with a different team you may not even have considered playing the very chip.

I do complain at times about how bad my transfers have turned and how better I'd be had I not done them or done differently. But I do realise it is meaningless if I don't continue the analysis up to the end of the season or up to a time where I'll get the same team than the one I actually have. It's a pain to track. But it's the only fair way to do it. Otherwise, we're (and I too am) only looking at the parts of the season we want to look at.

Overcomplicated? It is. Not me doing it though. Just the fair reality of it .

Iused2likebusts

Iroced its aoa we are discussing not BB. I don't think its complex at all I choose to play capoue weeks back as my 8th attacker when I could have waited till a better week like the one just gone for this week with alli. Of course capoue could have scored the gw I aoa with him and alli could have blanked last gw. Playing the percentages though you have a better chance of getting returns from a player like alli over capoue. It was a poor decision from me to play me aoa with capoue and as I stated the mistake I made was make that decision based on having a weak defence whereas in future I'll play Aoa when i have a weak defence and a strong front 8. I never considered capoue as a strong front 8 player he is better than the other 4.5 mids but not a player I'd want to start.

Mr.Prodston

54 points

Fell 12k to 62k

Out of the cup.

Father Hernandez

71 after a dismal run falling to 250k.

Back up to 180k and have PMA.

Another good GW would be great !