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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,819 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    DJ98 wrote: »
    Anyone planning on changing there breeding rams this year, as in changing breed, thinking of replacing the Suffolk rams here with something like a Hampshire down, any pros or cons?

    Picked up two Chartex rams this morning. Will tell ya how they go when we’re selling the lambs next April

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭Lambman


    Send me some pictures siamsa if u can... They look serious sheep. Friarstown charollais has some clinkers for the big boy ram sale. I sent u the pictures before.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,167 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Picked up two Chartex rams this morning. Will tell ya how they go when we’re selling the lambs next April

    Hoping to get one next year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 461 ✭✭joe35


    For factory lambs the HD is hard to beat. Always first on the trailor


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭Lambman


    _blaaz wrote:
    Sold 41kg (well 40.8) lambs earlier this week....made e99


    If your on Facebook Wrangler look up friarstown charrlois he has some clinkers


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,167 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Lambman wrote: »
    If your on Facebook Wrangler look up friarstown charrlois he has some clinkers

    I know, they're fine sheep, what about the blue texel, I'm doing the inspections at their premier sale on friday in tullamore, My nephew is using them and they seem to be quicker than texels. great conformation
    Don't need a ram this year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 527 ✭✭✭MeTheMan


    Have a lot of lambs coughing the last week or two. It's like a pub beer garden on a Saturday night in the yard after running them in. Fluke I'm guessing? Mostly the heavier lambs, but the withdrawl on the dose we use is 42 days. Any dose ye know of that has shorter withdrawl?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,167 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    MeTheMan wrote: »
    Have a lot of lambs coughing the last week or two. It's like a pub beer garden on a Saturday night in the yard after running them in. Fluke I'm guessing? Mostly the heavier lambs, but the withdrawl on the dose we use is 42 days. Any dose ye know of that has shorter withdrawl?

    Unlikely to be fluke this young, we use a yellow worm dose (Levamisoles)if we've coughing as it covers lungworm


  • Registered Users Posts: 527 ✭✭✭MeTheMan


    wrangler wrote: »
    Unlikely to be fluke this young, we use a yellow worm dose (Levamisoles)if we've coughing as it covers lungworm

    They were doesed with parafend about 4 weeks ago. It covers lungworm. Maybe time for another dose. Only 10 day withdrawal on that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,167 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    MeTheMan wrote: »
    They were doesed with parafend about 4 weeks ago. It covers lungworm. Maybe time for another dose. Only 10 day withdrawal on that.

    I'm not a vet but it works here


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Anyone any experience of dealing with scrapie?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,167 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    ganmo wrote: »
    Anyone any experience of dealing with scrapie?

    Have you a case, it used to be a road to riches, now it's just a pain.
    It's a notifiable disease.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    No, a ewe we sold years ago but its splashing back on us


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭DJ98


    What would you be expecting to pay for 3/4 yr old mountain ewes? Would between 70 and 80 be reasonable?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭razor8


    Seen some on done deal today at €150


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,819 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    DJ98 wrote: »
    What would you be expecting to pay for 3/4 yr old mountain ewes? Would between 70 and 80 be reasonable?

    Yes.

    The alternative market for them is culling.

    Say they’re 60kg and KO at 45%, giving 27kg dead-weight. Factories are paying 2.80-ish so that’s 75.60

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭Murang


    Any one in maam today for mule sale


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    I was in Borris yesterday for the show sale. A great display of stock. You could safely bring home any pen of farmers sellers sheep. 150 to 250€


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Willfarman wrote: »
    I was in Borris yesterday for the show sale. A great display of stock. You could safely bring home any pen of farmers sellers sheep. 150 to 250€

    Seen on farmers journal Snapchat, is their a premium on the whiter heads, it seemed that way to me


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Seen on farmers journal Snapchat, is their a premium on the whiter heads, it seemed that way to me

    Generally the speckled faces get a premium, definately as ewe lambs anyway.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    It’s a combination of great power length, speckled head and a little sharpness to the features.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭DJ98


    When would be the ideal time to shear March born ewe lambs?
    What are the advantages of shearing ewe lambs?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,167 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    DJ98 wrote: »
    When would be the ideal time to shear March born ewe lambs?
    What are the advantages of shearing ewe lambs?

    I hope to shear them this week, They're cleaner for lambing and they grow better


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭DJ98


    wrangler wrote: »
    DJ98 wrote: »
    When would be the ideal time to shear March born ewe lambs?
    What are the advantages of shearing ewe lambs?

    I hope to shear them this week, They're cleaner for lambing and they grow better

    How does it effect growth rates?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    DJ98 wrote: »
    How does it effect growth rates?

    It increases it if anything. Shearing is better too if you're breeding ewe lambs as its easier for the ram to be on target.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,167 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    DJ98 wrote: »
    How does it effect growth rates?

    Might be just imagination but my shearer has 1000 store lambs to shear so someone else thinks they grow better too. The ewe lambs are much cleaner for housing and lambing too
    I finally got mine in dry this evening so shearing at 8.30 in the morning, I shear all my sheep this time of the year so it's convenient to do the ewe lambs as well


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭DJ98


    wrangler wrote: »
    DJ98 wrote: »
    How does it effect growth rates?

    Might be just imagination but my shearer has 1000 store lambs to shear so someone else thinks they grow better too. The ewe lambs are much cleaner for housing and lambing too
    I finally got mine in dry this evening so shearing at 8.30 in the morning, I shear all my sheep this time of the year so it's convenient to do the ewe lambs as well
    Would they have to be kept in for a while after shearing or would they be all right going straight back out?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,167 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    DJ98 wrote: »
    Would they have to be kept in for a while after shearing or would they be all right going straight back out?

    Mine go straight back out, but you have to watch for chills on a wet night, but I've ever only had one or two cases and you'll get that much with may/ june shearing


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭DJ98


    wrangler wrote: »
    DJ98 wrote: »
    Would they have to be kept in for a while after shearing or would they be all right going straight back out?

    Mine go straight back out, but you have to watch for chills on a wet night, but I've ever only had one or two cases and you'll get that much with may/ june shearing
    Thanks wrangler


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭razor8


    The theory is they eat more to keep warm and as a consequence growth faster


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