General sheep thread

orm0nd

Farm365 wrote: »

What are people using for first dose for lambs 6wks old? I was thinking of using Albex.

used Tramozole , same ingredient as Albex

Sami23

Farm365 wrote: »

What are people using for first dose for lambs 6wks old? I was thinking of using Albex.

Zerofen

charolais0153

Worm all

wrangler

charolais0153 wrote: »

Worm all

Surprisingly we're getting neither worms nor nematodirus in the lambs faecal egg counts, must be because of the cold year,,there'd normally be a nematodirus hatch around 20th April

Kevhog1988

With the lockdown myself and dad are home so ive finally got round to putting up a proper pen. Put in a small crush for the footbath and dosing etc. Just need to get some stockboard now to narrow the crush and will be finished. Will get gravel for the floor when quarry starts delivering again. The small gates were actually railings on Oxford road in Manchester that we took down as part of a utility project a few years ago.

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charolais0153

wrangler wrote: »

Surprisingly we're getting neither worms nor nematodirus in the lambs faecal egg counts, must be because of the cold year,,there'd normally be a nematodirus hatch around 20th April

Youd know more than me but i thought that when you saw the nematodirus eggs in the dung, the damage was already done,
There was a few dirty that have cleared up now

kk.man

Kevhog1988 wrote: »

With the lockdown myself and dad are home so ive finally got round to putting up a proper pen. Put in a small crush for the footbath and dosing etc. Just need to get some stockboard now to narrow the crush and will be finished. Will get gravel for the floor when quarry starts delivering again. The small gates were actually railings on Oxford road in Manchester that we took down as part of a utility project a few years ago.

https://flic.kr/p/2iXhjyU

https://flic.kr/p/2iXfNj1

https://flic.kr/p/2iXfNnh

https://flic.kr/p/2iXhjW7

https://flic.kr/p/2iXhjyU

Nice set up.. I've a similar one except its inside in a shed.

Hope you don't mind me saying that you need to put a board right up to the edge of the footbath as sheep will do anything to put a foot out. Another footbath would be a faster operation.
The space after the footbath needs to be gravelled and dry. The mud and dirt would get into the hooves and thus defeat the purpose. Mine is a concrete base.
Best of luck.

Edit : if I read your post properly I would have see all the above is in your plans.

wrangler

charolais0153 wrote: »

Youd know more than me but i thought that when you saw the nematodirus eggs in the dung, the damage was already done,
There was a few dirty that have cleared up now

You're right but we like to be sure there was a hatch, we're testing every three days now and got one egg yesterday evening so will be dosed today.

wrangler

Kevhog1988 wrote: »

With the lockdown myself and dad are home so ive finally got round to putting up a proper pen. Put in a small crush for the footbath and dosing etc. Just need to get some stockboard now to narrow the crush and will be finished. Will get gravel for the floor when quarry starts delivering again. The small gates were actually railings on Oxford road in Manchester that we took down as part of a utility project a few years ago.

https://flic.kr/p/2iXhjyU

https://flic.kr/p/2iXfNj1

https://flic.kr/p/2iXfNnh

https://flic.kr/p/2iXhjW7

https://flic.kr/p/2iXhjyU

You should put the planks along inside the uprights, lamb'll give you hell at that width or is it for cattle as well

Oldira

Anybody know where I could get a nozzle for a Clik gun? I can’t seem to find anywhere that sells them. I might have to buy a new gun for the sake of one small part

Lambman

Any beltex breeders on here PM me.

DJ98

What do people find most effective to use in footbaths to help treat footrot?

Siamsa Sessions

DJ98 wrote: »

What do people find most effective to use in footbaths to help treat footrot?

We use formalin here.

The sheep aren't in the yard that often (thankfully) so no routine footbaths. I don't know if I'd be comfortable using formalin every 2-3 weeks.

I saw a few experienced lads on Twitter saying they only treat lame lambs with Alamycin spray and don't run the whole lot thru the footbath at all.

Horses for courses I suppose - all depends on how much lameness you have in the flock and whether it's just scald or something more serious like footrot. Or the dreaded CODD!

orm0nd

Siamsa Sessions wrote: »

We use formalin here.

The sheep aren't in the yard that often (thankfully) so no routine footbaths. I don't know if I'd be comfortable using formalin every 2-3 weeks.

I saw a few experienced lads on Twitter saying they only treat lame lambs with Alamycin spray and don't run the whole lot thru the footbath at all.

Horses for courses I suppose - all depends on how much lameness you have in the flock and whether it's just scald or something more serious like footrot. Or the dreaded CODD!

There was an open day at one them lads farm a few year's back & he had a lot of lame sheep . needles to say they wer'nt shown but were quite visible to passers by.

here we use zinc sulphate with good results mainly cos we have a mobile race and copper sulphate would eat the metal

Ard_MC

orm0nd wrote: »

There was an open day at one them lads farm a few year's back & he had a lot of lame sheep . needles to say they wer'nt shown but were quite visible to passers by.

here we use zinc sulphate with good results mainly cos we have a mobile race and copper sulphate would eat the metal

I have a race and came away from zinc as I read you need to stand them in zinc for 20 mins.

Do you walk them through it or have a batch footbath at the end of it?

wrangler

Ard_MC wrote: »

I have a race and came away from zinc as I read you need to stand them in zinc for 20 mins.

Do you walk them through it or have a batch footbath at the end of it?

5 mins standing is long enough for zinc sulphate, always use it here. formalin makes the hoof very hard
Footbath is 10ft by 3ft... much easier to get sheep into than a footbath in the race

orm0nd

Ard_MC wrote: »

I have a race and came away from zinc as I read you need to stand them in zinc for 20 mins.

Do you walk them through it or have a batch footbath at the end of it?

Use a wetting agent. Wash up liquid will do if you haven't anything else. Usually 5 to 10 minutes here. More importantly stand them on a clean dry surface after wards for as long as possible up to a hour.

arctictree

Lads, just found a 2 month old lamb in the field which has totally lost the use of its back legs. I dont think its joint ill as it seems to have come on suddenly. Any ideas?

Farm365

arctictree wrote: »

Lads, just found a 2 month old lamb in the field which has totally lost the use of its back legs. I dont think its joint ill as it seems to have come on suddenly. Any ideas?

Swayback. Copper deficiency I think

DJ98

Have a couple of 6 week old lambs here that are having a bit of bother with one of there back legs, will put no weight on it, no scalds. Only after coming on since yesterday, will catch tomorrow and bring to vet. Could it be joint ill?

arctictree

Farm365 wrote: »

Swayback. Copper deficiency I think

Is it treatable?

charolais0153

arctictree wrote: »

Is it treatable?

If its swayback copper injection will solve it, id be motr inclined to think its something mg to do with the spine, paralysed

Dickie10

could be white muscle disease, lack of vitamin b i think , but just google to make sure. but they would lose power in all legs with that so may be swayback. anywhere that gets lime can lock up the copper in the land after for a year, did the land get lime?

ganmo

charolais0153 wrote: »

If its swayback copper injection will solve it, id be motr inclined to think its something mg to do with the spine, paralysed

I never saw a lamb receiver the use of their back legs after going down

Kevhog1988

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Young95

Off sheep topic here but are many of youz keeping sucklers along with the sheep and how do youz fine the two working together? Thinking of getting back into a few here and selling calves at around year old . Are the financial sides of it as grime as people say?

Green farmer

I see a website, sheepproducts ie for ordering sheep stuff. Any one use them ? Any good ?

charolais0153

Young95 wrote: »

Off sheep topic here but are many of youz keeping sucklers along with the sheep and how do youz fine the two working together? Thinking of getting back into a few here and selling calves at around year old . Are the financial sides of it as grime as people say?

Work well together, we dont have them calving and lambing at same time, running ewes with the cows and letting the sheep ahead while the cows graze it out, when lambs are weaned, the dry ewes graze out after the cows, complement each other well,

Ard_MC

Green farmer wrote: »

I see a website, sheepproducts ie for ordering sheep stuff. Any one use them ? Any good ?

Yeah bought a bit of stuff of them. They are based in Mayo. Was happy with the service.

Kevhog1988

Wormed the little lads pet lamb yesterday. 2ml of albex and she has fairly bad scour this morning. Any ideas on what will clear it up?