General sheep thread

Young95

DJ98 wrote: »

What would be the best way to fix a handling race to concrete, at the minute the way it is once the sheep enter it they turn it over, completely dismantle it almost. Need someway of fixing it down permanently.

What make of race is it DJ ?

DJ98

DJ98 wrote: »

What would be the best way to fix a handling race to concrete, at the minute the way it is once the sheep enter it they turn it over, completely dismantle it almost. Need someway of fixing it down permanently.

Rawbolt it to the ground

Or else get posts made up and raw-bolt em to the ground and attach the gates/penning to these posts

wrangler

richie123 wrote: »

True ..I tried footvax and no It diddnt work for me.maybe I did something wrong I don't know
Maybe there's a more effective vaccine out there now.

I don't use foot vax, just stressing that prevention is better than trying to cure,

richie123

wrangler wrote: »

I don't use foot vax, just stressing that prevention is better than trying to cure,

Agree..prevention that's cost effective and works is better than cure.

DJ98

Young95 wrote: »

What make of race is it DJ ?

Stanley

AntrimGlens

DJ98 wrote: »

What would be the best way to fix a handling race to concrete, at the minute the way it is once the sheep enter it they turn it over, completely dismantle it almost. Need someway of fixing it down permanently.

Can you get your hands on some box section? I made up a few joiners for a race.
Weld a couple of lugs onto a piece of box section about 6" and 3ft of the ground and drop your pins through the lugs of each hurdle and through the box section.
I kangoed out a section of concrete, set in a sleeve and then dropped in the piece of box section, it can all be removed if needed, plenty sturdy and no chance of them busting it. Or you can buy the galvanised ones.

kk.man

DJ98 wrote: »

Stanley

This is what I have inside in a shed I added another at the end of it.

https://www.foxbros.ie/product/8-complete-sheep-footbath-race/

Young95

kk.man wrote: »

This is what I have inside in a shed I added another at the end of it.

https://www.foxbros.ie/product/8-complete-sheep-footbath-race/

How much was that race can I ask ?

DJ98

Young95 wrote: »

How much was that race can I ask ?

https://www.glanbiaconnect.com/shop/product/Fox-Brothers-Galvanised-Sheep-Race-With-Footbath-8ft/9061447

roosky

When foot bathing the advice is to allow sheep to stand for an hour on concrete after foot bathing.

I always do this but find it a pain to have to wait an hour before moving to the next job which is usually moving sheep back to grass which for me is mostly on the road so time is of the essence with these short evenings.

So my question is if I footbath first and then do an hours work of dosing, vaccinating etc would that work the same seeing as they would be on concrete all of that hour just be a case of them
walking/running up race.

TIA

kk.man

roosky wrote: »

When foot bathing the advice is to allow sheep to stand for an hour on concrete after foot bathing.

I always do this but find it a pain to have to wait an hour before moving to the next job which is usually moving sheep back to grass which for me is mostly on the road so time is of the essence with these short evenings.

So my question is if I footbath first and then do an hours work of dosing, vaccinating etc would that work the same seeing as they would be on concrete all of that hour just be a case of them
walking/running up race.

TIA

I think an hour is too much. I do 20 mins it's only drying they need. I definitely do 20 mins in summer but I suppose with damp weather like we are getting now they want to be a bit longer. Make sure the holding pen is dry before they enter. I have a few jobs lined up while I wait for them to dry out.

roosky

kk.man wrote: »

I think an hour is too much. I do 20 mins it's only drying they need. I definitely do 20 mins in summer but I suppose with damp weather like we are getting now they want to be a bit longer. Make sure the holding pen is dry before they enter. I have a few jobs lined up while I wait for them to dry out.

So you would feel it’s worthwhile leaving them stand rather than footbathing and letting it dry as they run are dosed etc

Siamsa Sessions

roosky wrote: »

So you would feel it’s worthwhile leaving them stand rather than footbathing and letting it dry as they run are dosed etc

Keeping them in the yard after footbathing means they are not going back out to muck and wet grass straight away. If you start dosing, vaccinating, etc. they might get a little muck on their feet depending on how many you have, how mucky the yard is, and the weather (rain vs sunshine). But then again, they might get little or no muck on their feet.

Either way, they're not going straight back out to muck/grass outside the yard. So, I'd be inclined to footbath and then let it soak in while you dose, etc.

kk.man

roosky wrote: »

So you would feel it’s worthwhile leaving them stand rather than footbathing and letting it dry as they run are dosed etc

Mine run thru a race/footbath they get dosed injected etc in the race footbath and then out to concrete for 20mins to 30mins.

roosky

Thanks all,

So its the case of keeping the feet clean post foot bathing rather than leaving them standing.

my set up means they go from one holding pen, through the race and footbath and into another pen so I can just ensure the pens are kept swept out

orm0nd

Muck doesn't affect zinc sulphate, think wrangler's o/h done trials on that

We've have rented ground and when footpath there we let them straight out the field. We used to try and hold them in the trailer for a while but gave up doing that. We use a sticker in the footbath mix.

At home we hold on concrete for half an hour

MIKEKC

Dipped all sheep a month ago.dip still in covered tank. Bought a few lambs today would it be safe to dip these in stale dip

AntrimGlens

MIKEKC wrote: »

Dipped all sheep a month ago.dip still in covered tank. Bought a few lambs today would it be safe to dip these in stale dip

I wouldn’t advise it, a neighbour did it a few years ago and the dip was only a few days old. He got a serious amount of lame sheep afterwards. There’s a bacteria Erysipelothrix rhusiopathiae that is found in dung and soil which could cause lameness if the dip is heavily contaminated.

razor8

MIKEKC wrote: »

Dipped all sheep a month ago.dip still in covered tank. Bought a few lambs today would it be safe to dip these in stale dip

A definite no no. Would have no benefit whatsoever

DJ98

Anyone here house dry ewe lambs over the winter, usually feed them meal and beet outdoors but was considering housing this year for 2 or 3 months and feeding indoors to save ground and also make it more suitable for late evening and early morning feeding

wrangler

DJ98 wrote: »

Anyone here house dry lambs over the winter, usually feed them meal and beet outdoors but was considering housing this year for 2 or 3 months and feeding indoors to save ground and also make it more suitable for late evening and early morning feeding

I house my ewe lambs on straw and meal every year with no ill effects, it's very easy sicken them so any change in feed has to be veerrry gradually. That'd be the same thing as your lambs

Siamsa Sessions

DJ98 wrote: »

Anyone here house dry ewe lambs over the winter, usually feed them meal and beet outdoors but was considering housing this year for 2 or 3 months and feeding indoors to save ground and also make it more suitable for late evening and early morning feeding

Housed them for nearly two months here last winter. No ill effects. Gave them hay and around 200g of a beet pulp and rolled oats mix. Bit of a pain to be feeding them but it saved space and grass for ewes/lambs outside

Lano Lynn

MIKEKC wrote: »

Dipped all sheep a month ago.dip still in covered tank. Bought a few lambs today would it be safe to dip these in stale dip

not advisable

wrangler

Lano Lynn wrote: »

not advisable

It's even advised not to use it the next day

eire23

DJ98 wrote: »

Anyone here house dry ewe lambs over the winter, usually feed them meal and beet outdoors but was considering housing this year for 2 or 3 month

s and feeding indoors to save ground and also make it more suitable for late evening and early morning feeding

Do house all the ewe lambs here In late December early Jan. give them half pound of nuts once a day and good silage. No bother with them and it saves ground for the ewes at lambing

jd06

eire23 wrote: »

Do house all the ewe lambs here In late December early Jan. give them half pound of nuts once a day and good silage. No bother with them and it saves ground for the ewes at lambing

I leave mine out all winter now they wouldn't have much grass I leave them out a bale of hay and half a pound of nuts.
Would they thrive as well in doors? Or would the rather be out and about eventhough there's not much for them. Plus the hassle of bedding and so on?

eire23

jd06 wrote: »

I leave mine out all winter now they wouldn't have much grass I leave them out a bale of hay and half a pound of nuts.
Would they thrive as well in doors? Or would the rather be out and about eventhough there's not much for them. Plus the hassle of bedding and so on?

Don't see any bother on thrive, they be on around 70dmd silage and the nuts. Get fresh silage twice a day with what ever isn't eat taken away. No bedding to be done as all the sheep here are on slats.

arctictree

Just got a text about an incoming payment for the sheep welfare scheme. I wish they would change the reference year on this. I had 26 ewes for that year, have over 100 now....

Sami23

arctictree wrote: »

Just got a text about an incoming payment for the sheep welfare scheme. I wish they would change the reference year on this. I had 26 ewes for that year, have over 100 now....

Is this the last year of that scheme ?

Young95

arctictree wrote: »

Just got a text about an incoming payment for the sheep welfare scheme. I wish they would change the reference year on this. I had 26 ewes for that year, have over 100 now....

Did you get a text stating a correspondence has issued for you ? By any chance ? I got one der today