General sheep thread

OneMan37

roosky wrote: »

Have a friend buying 10 inlamb hoggets all scanned with twins.....the hoggets would have been €175 last September so nice sheep but no show stoppers.....what are they worth now inlamb I was thinking €210 or €215 would be the max or what are peoples opinion

I think this is a bargain in today’s market. Could bring the €210/€215 back on the lambs alone, if the doubles survive.

MIKEKC

Have 40 hoggets (replacement ewe lambs, not in lamb) 6 have gone lame in past week. No footrot or any sign of swelling or hot joints. Any idea if cause

wrangler

OneMan37 wrote: »

Agree Teagasc have done a study on this. I’m feeding only meal until ewes are housed this year.

That'll be interesting, are they on grass as well

roosky

OneMan37 wrote: »

I think this is a bargain in today’s market. Could bring the €210/€215 back on the lambs alone, if the doubles survive.

Ya maybe so...not a great year to be buying I suppose

Dickie10

MIKEKC wrote: »

Have 40 hoggets (replacement ewe lambs, not in lamb) 6 have gone lame in past week. No footrot or any sign of swelling or hot joints. Any idea if cause

maybe early CODD could break out on side or top of shell on hoof, a few ml betabox might help it break out and treat with spray and bluestone that what i do

MIKEKC

Dickie10 wrote: »

maybe early CODD could break out on side or top of shell on hoof, a few ml betabox might help it break out and treat with spray and bluestone that what i do

Thanks, will keep a check on them, but no sign of anything around hoof. Checked them all before footbathing today

wrangler

MIKEKC wrote: »

Thanks, will keep a check on them, but no sign of anything around hoof. Checked them all before footbathing today

what are you using in the footbath, it should solve it, the problem has to be between the hooves when you can see nothing further up, were they worse immediately after footbathing as they would be if there was a scald

MIKEKC

wrangler wrote: »

what are you using in the footbath, it should solve it, the problem has to be between the hooves when you can see nothing further up, were they worse immediately after footbathing as they would be if there was a scald

Use bluestone. Put them into shed after footbathing. Didn't notice them any worse after footbathing . They are in a clean powerwashed pen. No bad smell . Will check tomorrow to see if they are worse

wrangler

MIKEKC wrote: »

Use bluestone. Put them into shed after footbathing. Didn't notice them any worse after footbathing . They are in a clean powerwashed pen. No bad smell . Will check tomorrow to see if they are worse

It's usually in the first few minutes of stepping out that they're worst with scald, but they're alright after a couple hours, we used to have to drive them on the road after footbathing and we'd be ashamed of them when we'd meet a car, they'd be crippled...... but alright the next day, but that's the way with scalds.
It'll be interesting to see what's causing them to be lame

Lambman

I will be feeding smyths prime ewe from 6 weeks out they aren't lambing till April... I'm happy with there condition so far and have no lameness as there running thru footbaths twice a week.

MIKEKC

wrangler wrote: »

It's usually in the first few minutes of stepping out that they're worst with scald, but they're alright after a couple hours, we used to have to drive them on the road after footbathing and we'd be ashamed of them when we'd meet a car, they'd be crippled...... but alright the next day, but that's the way with scalds.
It'll be interesting to see what's causing them to be lame

No change in lameness. They are not very lame, just a slight limp.Will see in a few days

wrangler

Lambman wrote: »

I will be feeding smyths prime ewe from 6 weeks out they aren't lambing till April... I'm happy with there condition so far and have no lameness as there running thru footbaths twice a week.

You shouldn't have to worry about minerals so, A mineral dose when the rams came out and then the minerals in 6 weeks ration should be plenty

OneMan37

Have 28 Belclare ewes lambing 15th March onwards and 42 hilltex lambs lambing 1st April onwards all in one field how much nuts/creep should I feed them ? Limited grass now and getting no silage. Already feeding 8/9kg lamb pellets a day.

OneMan37

wrangler wrote: »

That'll be interesting, are they on grass as well

Yes, in a 10 acre field but grass is scarce. They will get hay straw bed when inside.

wrangler

OneMan37 wrote: »

Have 28 Belclare ewes lambing 15th March onwards and 42 hilltex lambs lambing 1st April onwards all in one field how much nuts/creep should I feed them ? Limited grass now and getting no silage. Already feeding 8/9kg lamb pellets a day.

I'm feeding .75 kg to adult ewes with doubles due 7th march, thats with only straw so you'd be alright with .4kg at the moment. mine will be built up to 1.3kg/day in three feeds by the first of march
ewe lambs due 15 march are getting about the same, doubles in those are built up very slowly to as much as they can eat for the last fortnight,
Between the fact that they are lleyns and the lambs are taking up a lot of room in their stomach, their appetites aren't huge, probably will only be eating .75kg /day in three feeds by then. It's not really enough but we start feeding them from scanning so that they're well built up before the lambs starts growing fast in them

Kevhog1988

https://flic.kr/p/2kt3WwE

Have never seen this on a ewe before. Is it orf?? Just came on her yesterday.

Hope that link works

wrangler

Kevhog1988 wrote: »

https://flic.kr/p/2kt3WwE

Have never seen this on a ewe before. Is it orf?? Just came on her yesterday.

Hope that link works

It's not orf, It looks like she's not able to eat properly and slobbering
Is she stupid or blind, if she was it could be listeria from silage

arctictree

wrangler wrote: »

I'm feeding .75 kg to adult ewes with doubles due 7th march, thats with only straw so you'd be alright with .4kg at the moment. mine will be built up to 1.3kg/day in three feeds by the first of march
ewe lambs due 15 march are getting about the same, doubles in those are built up very slowly to as much as they can eat for the last fortnight,
Between the fact that they are lleyns and the lambs are taking up a lot of room in their stomach, their appetites aren't huge, probably will only be eating .75kg /day in three feeds by then. It's not really enough but we start feeding them from scanning so that they're well built up before the lambs starts growing fast in them

Are you feeding the singles anything?

arctictree

Silly question but anyone know if ewes sold as 'in lamb hoggets' are 2020 born sheep?

wrangler

arctictree wrote: »

Are you feeding the singles anything?

ewe lambs are getting the same as the doubles but won't be increasing.
adult singles are on .5kg and will be up to .9kg with the straw by lambing, Triplets are getting .9kg now and will be over a kilo day by lambing. We find that they're not able to eat big amounts of meal near lambing

Kevhog1988

wrangler wrote: »

It's not orf, It looks like she's not able to eat properly and slobbering
Is she stupid or blind, if she was it could be listeria from silage

She's definitely not blind and no stupider than normal. I had thought it might be the ewe and lamb pellets congealed on her face if the trough was wet?.

Kevhog1988

Kevhog1988 wrote: »

She's definitely not blind and no stupider than normal. I had thought it might be the ewe and lamb pellets congealed on her face if the trough was wet?.

is she eating at furze by any chance?



Seen similar to.happen here

wrangler

Kevhog1988 wrote: »

She's definitely not blind and no stupider than normal. I had thought it might be the ewe and lamb pellets congealed on her face if the trough was wet?.

That's probably all it is, it's very difficult to diagnose from here, If she's in good form why worry, I thought you were concerned about her

arctictree

wrangler wrote: »

ewe lambs are getting the same as the doubles but won't be increasing.
adult singles are on .5kg and will be up to .9kg with the straw by lambing, Triplets are getting .9kg now and will be over a kilo day by lambing. We find that they're not able to eat big amounts of meal near lambing

Do you not end up with the ewe lambs having big singles?

wrangler

arctictree wrote: »

Do you not end up with the ewe lambs having big singles?

They're in lamb to Vendeens, very seldom would have a ceasarean , we use the same feeding rate every year, straw quality never varies, it's always poor,
Their diet is consistent then, no fear of overdoing it like when you'd have good silage

Siamsa Sessions

[Deleted User] wrote: »

is she eating at furze by any chance?



Seen similar to.happen here

Saw something similar here too in white-faced lambs after grazing around thistles in summer.

I’m guessing it’s some type of infection or reaction to the skin being prodded or stressed. I sprayed Alamycin onto the lambs mouths/jaws who were bad with it and thankfully it faded away after a few days

roosky

arctictree wrote: »

Silly question but anyone know if ewes sold as 'in lamb hoggets' are 2020 born sheep?

No they would be 2019 born....went to the ram as hoggets

weatherbyfoxer

scanned here Thursday main flock scanned well at 1.93..a rough split of of 50% twins,25% singles and 25% thriplets...scanned the ewe lambs too 17 twins and 20 singles out of 43 scanned...bit higher than id like to be honest,

just wondering what people think is it better to take one of the lambs off the ewe lambs that have twins or are they ok if fed well while rearing them?

arctictree

weatherbyfoxer wrote: »

scanned here Thursday main flock scanned well at 1.93..a rough split of of 50% twins,25% singles and 25% thriplets...scanned the ewe lambs too 17 twins and 20 singles out of 43 scanned...bit higher than id like to be honest,

just wondering what people think is it better to take one of the lambs off the ewe lambs that have twins or are they ok if fed well while rearing them?

I leave the twins on the ewe lambs but keep them in a seperate field and feed them well. The lambs will start eating the nuts after a couple of weeks too. Sometimes if I have a fostering opportunity onto an older ewe with a single and plenty of milk, I'd do the fostering.

razor8

wrangler wrote: »

They're in lamb to Vendeens, very seldom would have a ceasarean , we use the same feeding rate every year, straw quality never varies, it's always poor,
Their diet is consistent then, no fear of overdoing it like when you'd have good silage

Did you think you get reduced prolapse issues?