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General sheep thread

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    #2282
    greysides
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,024 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    arctictree wrote: »
    Lads, have a couple of lambs here that got joint ill about a month ago in one leg only. So I couldn't catch them in the field to inject them. I have them in now and have been giving them an injection for 5 days with no improvement. Am I wasting my time and they are permanently damaged?

    I wouldn't be holding my breath....

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    #2283
    greysides
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    roosky wrote: »
    Same issue here, they got 7 days of noroclav and after three days they were back to square 1, might put two of them down, horrible to see them in pain

    Try a different injection. May get a shot of long acting anti-inflammatory to give with the first one. If that fails, back to plan A.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



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    #2284
    DJ98
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    Lads that keep both cattle and sheep, do you have separate handling facilities or does the cattle crush work as a sheep race also?


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    #2285
    charolais0153
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    DJ98 wrote: »
    Lads that keep both cattle and sheep, do you have separate handling facilities or does the cattle crush work as a sheep race also?

    Have a sheep race. Know of lads that put in bits of pallets into cattle race to make it narrower


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    #2286
    orm0nd
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    DJ98 wrote: »
    Lads that keep both cattle and sheep, do you have separate handling facilities or does the cattle crush work as a sheep race also?

    have a mobile race/penning unit for sheep which we use all the time, even on the home farm

    there's a fellow on twitter, (maybe he's a member here ) that has mesh panels that hook on to the cattle crush when using for sheep, very neat and simple.


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    #2287
    DJ98
    Registered Users Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭DJ98


    Is there any point in doing lambs with scabivax If lambs in the field already have orf?
    How long does it take for the sores to heal?


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    #2288
    wrangler
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    DJ98 wrote: »
    Is there any point in doing lambs with scabivax If lambs in the field already have orf?
    How long does it take for the sores to heal?

    The firm that makes scabivax claim that it's good to use in the face of an outbreak, I never did it here though.
    In a clean field lambs will put it over them in a couple of weeks but if they're short of grass and have to graze into thistles and briars where the burst their
    sores it wil last a long time.
    We'd usually get them in maybe twice a week while it's going on and treat the burst ones with antibiotic spray but our fields are clean and we'd maybe only have to treat 5% of them.
    We're scabivaxing at a day old for the last three years because the outbreaks got so severe every year, It effects their thrive for weeks though, like any virus they must be in bad form before and after too


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    #2289
    MeTheMan
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    Ewe sick here. Walking like she had mastitis. Put her in and no sign of anything wrong. She lies out in the field kinda going over on her side with her back legs out. Then up again. Not eating. Going to try some calci-jet and see what it does.


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    #2290
    Western Pomise
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    MeTheMan wrote: »
    Ewe sick here. Walking like she had mastitis. Put her in and no sign of anything wrong. She lies out in the field kinda going over on her side with her back legs out. Then up again. Not eating. Going to try some calci-jet and see what it does.
    Hope she comes around.....was dosing ewes and hoggetts today,about half an hour after doing one batch was walking them out to fresh field....one of hoggetts seemed to be finding it hard to breathe and lay down and started to froth a bit from the mouth...left her where she was to give her time to recover a bit....went back an hour later and she was dead....maybe dose went down wrong way for her.Was a nice Suffolk x hoggett too....never the bad ones that die.


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    #2291
    MeTheMan
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    Had them in dosing as well. She was off the day before. Went down hill yesterday. Tried a shot of calcium and magnesium went to check her 2 hours later and she was dead. She was a older ewe. Around 7/8 years.


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    #2292
    roosky
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    Willfarman wrote: »
    When you think they are cured keep injecting for another week.

    My lad with joint ill is worse than ever running on 3 legs but isnt thin or pining, would it be worth going with another 7 days of noroclav or do you go longer or what do ye think


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    #2293
    Willfarman
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    roosky wrote: »
    Willfarman wrote: »
    When you think they are cured keep injecting for another week.

    My lad with joint ill is worse than ever running on 3 legs but isnt thin or pining, would it be worth going with another 7 days of noroclav or do you go longer or what do ye think
    I go two weeks. when you can't catch him count another 10 days.


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    #2294
    Siamsa Sessions
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,818 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    When's the best time to weigh mature ewes?

    We've various breeds and crosses in the flock and I want to try get a sense of how big (or small) the ewes are.

    Would it be just before they go to the ram?

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    #2295
    razor8
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    In NZ it’s after lambing and before tipping


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    #2296
    Siamsa Sessions
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    razor8 wrote: »
    In NZ it’s after lambing and before tipping

    Thanks. Will probably just go with before tipping here.

    Might try work out "efficiency" then when the lambs are weaned next year. I think that's what Teagasc are proposing: same as sucklers system, compare weight of calf at weaning to cow weight.

    Anyone else on here try this measurement?

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    #2297
    razor8
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    Siamsa Sessions wrote: »
    Thanks. Will probably just go with before tipping here.

    Might try work out "efficiency" then when the lambs are weaned next year. I think that's what Teagasc are proposing: same as sucklers system, compare weight of calf at weaning to cow weight.

    Anyone else on here try this measurement?

    have to buy a new scales, one i bought under TAMS wont fit ewes or rams. got it off cormacs, something to watch out for if anyone buying


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    #2298
    Siamsa Sessions
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    razor8 wrote: »
    have to buy a new scales, one i bought under TAMS wont fit ewes or rams. got it off cormacs, something to watch out for if anyone buying

    Better check the one at home so!

    Don't want to be squashing them into it.

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    #2299
    arctictree
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    Willfarman wrote: »
    I go two weeks. when you can't catch him count another 10 days.

    Well I'm on day 10 with this one and it's just starting to take effect. Although he had it for a good few weeks before i caught him. I'll go another 5 and see where we are.


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    #2300
    Kevhog1988
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    Have a ewe that lambs yesterday evening. Hadn't cleaned by this morning. Should I intervene?


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    #2301
    wrangler
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    theemigrant wrote: »
    Have a ewe that lambs yesterday evening. Hadn't cleaned by this morning. Should I intervene?

    I never do anyway, you can cause a bleed if you pull it manually....they usually lose it in a few days.
    Sometimes they can be sick after and we give an antibiotic if they have a raised temperature.


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    #2302
    Kevhog1988
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    wrangler wrote: »
    theemigrant wrote: »
    Have a ewe that lambs yesterday evening. Hadn't cleaned by this morning. Should I intervene?

    I never do anyway, you can cause a bleed if you pull it manually....they usually lose it in a few days.
    Sometimes they can be sick after and we give an antibiotic if they have a raised temperature.
    Thanks Wrangler, myself and the father had differing opinions on it. Well leave her be for now.


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    #2303
    wrangler
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    Paid the vet bill today, ceasasrean at 4am cost €85 plus €12 for penicillen
    Can't complain about that


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    #2304
    Siamsa Sessions
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    wrangler wrote: »
    Paid the vet bill today, ceasasrean at 4am cost €85 plus €12 for penicillen
    Can't complain about that

    Agree. The vets bills are not too high around here either. Good service and plenty advice whenever I go into the office for anything

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    #2305
    Bullocks
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    wrangler wrote: »
    Paid the vet bill today, ceasasrean at 4am cost €85 plus €12 for penicillen
    Can't complain about that

    Couldn't argue with him on that , do you have to bring the ewe to the vet or do they call out


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    #2306
    wrangler
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    Bullocks wrote: »
    Couldn't argue with him on that , do you have to bring the ewe to the vet or do they call out

    Call out, I gave them the choice so she might have been close.....they were very busy that night.
    No cleaning up for them when they do it on farm I suppose,


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    #2307
    Willfarman
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    wrangler wrote: »
    Paid the vet bill today, ceasasrean at 4am cost €85 plus €12 for penicillen
    Can't complain about that

    Would you not have let her go till the morning?


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    #2308
    wrangler
    Registered Users Posts: 11,166 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Was looking after our groups lambs in the factory today, Best batch made €149.90 minus €3 exps, great prices


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    #2309
    Willfarman
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    wrangler wrote: »
    Was looking after our groups lambs in the factory today, Best batch made €149.90 minus €3 exps, great prices

    Well deserved too..


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    #2310
    Siamsa Sessions
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    Willfarman wrote: »
    wrangler wrote: »
    Was looking after our groups lambs in the factory today, Best batch made €149.90 minus €3 exps, great prices

    Well deserved too..

    As an uncle here says, “Sure you’d want that for them. And more if you could get it.”

    Hopefully prices will be slow to fall for the rest of the year now

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    #2311
    Green farmer
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    I’m Hoping for strong prices through out the season. A lot of farms both here and the uk (where factories ship a lot of numbers in from) Have got hammered with high weather related losses this spring. They’ll have to be scarce in the ground as the year continues.


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