Anyone still waiting for stuff from China?

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ohnonotgmail · 04-01-2018 6:31pm

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If the value is €50 or €500 the amount of work they have to do is the same so they charge the same. I cant understand why this is so difficult for people to understand.

if the value was €20 they wouldn't have to do the same work. there is nothing to collect so they wouldn't have to do the customs paperwork, create an invoice and then get the postman to collect the money would they?

my3cents · 04-01-2018 6:33pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

If the value is €50 or €500 the amount of work they have to do is the same so they charge the same. I cant understand why this is so difficult for people to understand.

if the value was €20 they wouldn't have to do the same work. there is nothing to collect so they wouldn't have to do the customs paperwork, create an invoice and then get the postman to collect the money would they?

Not strictly correct. My son gets loads of stuff with a big green sticker from An Post starting Opened by Customs so they do some work for nothing or least in the hope of getting paid.

andrewfaulk · 04-01-2018 6:42pm

my3cents wrote: »

Not strictly correct. My son gets loads of stuff with a big green sticker from An Post starting Opened by Customs so they do some work for nothing or least in the hope of getting paid.

That’s customs opening the package to check the declaration is correct, as there is a load of under valuation on shipments coming from China to try and avoid vat and duty for the customer in Ireland.. What the previous poster is referring to is the work of doing a customs entry which is done by the courier company, and is the same process regardless of value.. people complaining about being charged a tenner for this is a bit petty.. I have worked for two different freight companies and the going rate outside the courier market for a customs entry is between €35 and €65 for a basic one line/tariff entry

my3cents · 04-01-2018 7:49pm

andrewfaulk wrote: »

That’s customs opening the package to check the declaration is correct, as there is a load of under valuation on shipments coming from China to try and avoid vat and duty for the customer in Ireland.. What the previous poster is referring to is the work of doing a customs entry which is done by the courier company, and is the same process regardless of value.. people complaining about being charged a tenner for this is a bit petty.. I have worked for two different freight companies and the going rate outside the courier market for a customs entry is between €35 and €65 for a basic one line/tariff entry

So you are saying more than one person opens a package to check it? Both customs and An Post.

whiterebel · 04-01-2018 8:26pm

my3cents wrote: »

So you are saying more than one person opens a package to check it? Both customs and An Post.

Customs operate in the An Post facility. They have x-ray and sniffer dogs available to them there, so if a package is suspicious they’ll open it.

If it’s a single line entry, the work is the same whether it’s an import worth €26 or €10,000. Vat advance fee will be higher, though. I don’t see why it would matter to anyone in An Post/couriers what the value is, if it’s over the value for customs it has to be cleared anyway.

ED E · 04-01-2018 8:30pm

andrewfaulk wrote: »

I have worked for two different freight companies and the going rate outside the courier market for a customs entry is between €35 and €65 for a basic one line/tariff entry

Love to know how many man minutes that takes.

....... · 04-01-2018 9:33pm

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andrewfaulk · 04-01-2018 11:55pm

ED E wrote: »

Love to know how many man minutes that takes.

Can be 5 minutes or can be an hour plus.. Depends on a couple of factors..

andrewfaulk · 04-01-2018 11:57pm

my3cents wrote: »

So you are saying more than one person opens a package to check it? Both customs and An Post.

An post don’t open a package, the do a customs entry which is an electronic process.. Customs can open a package if they see fit.

ED E · 05-01-2018 5:22pm

12/3/2017 2:17:09 PM FullShipped All items have been shipped.

Arrived Today (Forged Signature too)

33 days via NL

11/24/2017 2:38:14 PM Partial Shipment Your order has been partially Shipped

Arrived Today

42 days direct from CN

11/30/2017 9:07:24 AM FullShipped All items have been shipped.

Outstanding

Dec 12, 2017
07:12 pm
Fuzhou (China) Fuzhou (China)

Outstanding

ED E · 05-01-2018 5:24pm

andrewfaulk wrote: »

Can be 5 minutes or can be an hour plus.. Depends on a couple of factors..

For a pallet?

My point being, regular B2C mail packets are typically classifiable and able to be dealt with in a few minutes by an operative that does it day in day out. So lets say its 20/hr, that €200 for an operative thats paid €15, with AP. More with the others.

andrewfaulk · 05-01-2018 6:46pm

ED E wrote: »

For a pallet?

My point being, regular B2C mail packets are typically classifiable and able to be dealt with in a few minutes by an operative that does it day in day out. So lets say its 20/hr, that €200 for an operative thats paid €15, with AP. More with the others.

Don’t do too many B2C myself.. but 20/hr would be one every 3 mins, very good going.. anyone that’s getting paid €15 to do that job is in the wrong company though.. 30K a year to do painful customs entries dealing with customers who haven’t a clue.. could get half as much again working for a customer brokerage or freight forwarder as a broker

whiterebel · 05-01-2018 11:02pm

ED E wrote: »

For a pallet?

My point being, regular B2C mail packets are typically classifiable and able to be dealt with in a few minutes by an operative that does it day in day out. So lets say its 20/hr, that €200 for an operative thats paid €15, with AP. More with the others.

Every single item may have a different classification. They may be subject to different duty rates, quotas, anti-dumping duties, excise. They may be mis-declared, fake, have no paperwork.
Do up the customs entry - someone has to be trained to do this, I’d guess more than one.
Send it down the line and wait for a routing back.
Organise inspection depending on the routing,
organise the COD when it goes green.
In 3 minutes. And this is An Post who are surely going to bust a hump to get everything done quickly? 4 or 5 an hour might be realistic, not 20.

There are still a couple of customs clearance agents in Ireland. You should ring them and ask for a quote for a Customs entry. I’d be surprised if they’ll be less than €30 for a one line entry.

andrewfaulk · 06-01-2018 12:51am

whiterebel wrote: »

Every single item may have a different classification. They may be subject to different duty rates, quotas, anti-dumping duties, excise. They may be mis-declared, fake, have no paperwork.
Do up the customs entry - someone has to be trained to do this, I’d guess more than one.
Send it down the line and wait for a routing back.
Organise inspection depending on the routing,
organise the COD when it goes green.
In 3 minutes. And this is An Post who are surely going to bust a hump to get everything done quickly? 4 or 5 an hour might be realistic, not 20.

There are still a couple of customs clearance agents in Ireland. You should ring them and ask for a quote for a Customs entry. I’d be surprised if they’ll be less than €30 for a one line entry.

Going rate for a customs entry is €50-€65.. that’s for regular customers.. a one off COD customer who hasn’t a clue what’s involved and needs you to pay the Vat.. most customs brokers would say no thanks or want an outlay fee( have seen 1% being charged) on top

whiterebel · 06-01-2018 2:58am

andrewfaulk wrote: »

Going rate for a customs entry is €50-€65.. that’s for regular customers.. a one off COD customer who hasn’t a clue what’s involved and needs you to pay the Vat.. most customs brokers would say no thanks or want an outlay fee( have seen 1% being charged) on top

That’s what the couriers do, I think it’s usually 2.5%, with a minimum of €12.50-15.00.

Jaysus....€50-65....:eek:

joujoujou · 06-01-2018 11:05am

joujoujou wrote: »

Last 2 days - 2 deliveries. 38 and 37 days respectively. Not bad at all.

Another one arrived yesterday - 37 days as well.

However still waiting for 1 or 2 items posted in november.

CH3OH · 06-01-2018 6:03pm

Yesterday I received a battery pack that I had ordered on the 15th November from Banggood. It shipped on the 19th November.. Just 7 weeks

I had given up on it

wheresmybeaver · 12-01-2018 4:56pm

CH3OH wrote: »

Yesterday I received a battery pack that I had ordered on the 15th November from Banggood. It shipped on the 19th November.. Just 7 weeks

I had given up on it

Yeah I wonder if there's a big backlog in An Post or something?

I finally received a phone cover yesterday that I ordered first week of November. 8 weeks.

Ordered a few small things off aliexpress and elsewhere last year (all 10 to 20 euro) and it was a reasonable 3 weeks or so from start to finish. Volumes must be increasing.

ohnonotgmail · 12-01-2018 4:59pm

Stuff from china is always delayed at the end of the year.

ED E · 15-01-2018 5:02am

ED E wrote: »

Free, untracked, low value packet mail from China (Dx.com).

Dispatched 9 days ago:
UK (residential) arrived TODAY. 9 days.
IRL (residential) no sign yet, doubt we'll see it before mid Jan.

Says it all.

Arrived Thursday. 34 days. Same seller, dispatched same day from Shenzen.

ED E wrote: »

Arrived Today (Forged Signature too)

33 days via NL

Arrived Today

42 days direct from CN

Outstanding

Outstanding

Also arrived Friday, similar timeframes ~40 days.

ED E wrote: »

Something I actually need now, left Guangzhou on the 15th. No sign with AP.

DELIVERED

Jan 10, 2018
11:39 am
Delivered&#65292;china-ems

..

Dec 15, 2017
10:20 am
Leaving parcel center Zhongshan (China) Guangzhou (China)&#65288;&#65289;china-ems

..

&#31119;&#24030;&#24066;
Dec 12, 2017
07:12 pm
Fuzhou (China) Fuzhou (China)Shipment received&#65288;&#65289;china-ems

This one wasn't so bad. That said, it was bigger and registered not signed for. Parcel not packet.

joujoujou · 15-01-2018 2:45pm

joujoujou wrote: »

[...] still waiting for 1 or 2 items posted in november.

None of aforementioned items came yet, but surprisingly one I bought on 26th Dec instead - free untracked postage took only 20 days! :eek:

zell12 · 15-01-2018 4:01pm

Bought a small thing (€1) from Aliexpress.
It's tracking on www.17track.net is great, it even details the Lufthansa flight the package is taking. The time the flight is leaving and it's estimated arrival time. Who knows, it might tell me the reg of the post office van too.

phunks · 15-01-2018 4:27pm

Does Singapore post ever get updated from "Arrival at destination post"? Been stuck on that since the 27th so hoping it'll arrive this week.

judeboy101 · 15-01-2018 4:33pm

Ordered cheap €50 phone 12th dec arrived via pm 13th Jan. Bought from deal extreme and sent via Singapore pist

andrew1977 · 15-01-2018 10:42pm

Dispatched 20th November from Nanjing ,China .
Arrived in the post today, item value less than 1 euro.

nadnerb77 · 19-01-2018 11:37am

I ordered two items from China on the same date.One item sent to Derry the other sent to Donegal on Dec 23Th 2017 The Royal Mail delivered this on 12th jan still no sign of an post delivery one week later

MOD merge. Please don’t re-open 3 year old threads, especially when there is this mega thread on the first page. Thanks.

19-01-2018 2:44pm

as an experiment paid for an item to go to uk and to Ireland through parcel wizard.
previous order from same site coming through same initial postage method through an post.

Result

Sing Post -> An Post 6 weeks
Sing Post -> Royal Mail -> Parcel Wizard 3 weeks

Dispatch times were similar (exact same I think actually at 3 days)

jippo nolan · 19-01-2018 2:49pm

Ordered 128gb pny memory card from Geek website in China on 11/1/18, arrived this morning!

Esel · 19-01-2018 8:55pm

jippo nolan wrote: »

Ordered 128gb pny memory card from Geek website in China on 11/1/18, arrived this morning!

Is it genuine? How much? Ta.

jippo nolan · 20-01-2018 11:48am

Esel wrote: »

Is it genuine? How much? Ta.

It’s a pny 128gb + a usb stick, cost €8.50 inc. postage.

my3cents · 20-01-2018 11:54am

jippo nolan wrote: »

It’s a pny 128gb + a usb stick, cost €8.50 inc. postage.

Let us know when you have 100GB plus stored on it, for that money I doubt its pny or 128GB.

Very easy to put a bit of software on a USB stick that tells the OS that the storage space is much larger than it is.

Hope I'm wrong, good luck.

joujoujou · 20-01-2018 12:22pm

h2testw will check real storage capacity.

jippo nolan · 20-01-2018 12:33pm

my3cents wrote: »

Let us know when you have 100GB plus stored on it, for that money I doubt its pny or 128GB.

Very easy to put a bit of software on a USB stick that tells the OS that the storage space is much larger than it is.

Hope I'm wrong, good luck.

Awaiting dashcam that can hold up to 128gb micro card,
Will update when received!

20-01-2018 4:11pm

dashcam won't verify the real size. need to do a test on a pc with the h2testw method or similar. probably is some phone app to do the same thing.

ED E · 21-01-2018 3:25pm

When its a total flop on ya, go here:
https://www.mymemory.co.uk/memory/memory-cards/micro-sd.html?capacity=51

mad muffin · 22-01-2018 11:18am

I have an item which left China on the 11/12 and arrived in Ireland 21 days ago still not delivered. I also have an item which left the uk two weeks ago and still isn’t on an posts system.

23-01-2018 7:58pm

I ordered a handheld console which was sent on the 24th December and arrived in Ireland on the 27th. What it's been doing since then is anyone's guess. Obviously sitting in a cage somewhere waiting for someone to process it. Our postal service is laughable.

Glebee · 23-01-2018 11:02pm

I have a small order awaiting delivery from Gearbest. Nothing major. Ordered on 27th November and made it to Ireland on 12th December but still not delivered. What my chances of getting it at this stage??

phunks · 23-01-2018 11:05pm

Glebee wrote: »

I have a small order awaiting delivery from Gearbest. Nothing major. Ordered on 27th November and made it to Ireland on 12th December but still not delivered. What my chances of getting it at this stage??

That is grim. I have a package that arrived to Ireland on December 27 and was expecting it last week on what others were posting. Still no sign:(

sunbeam · 24-01-2018 1:44am

I had no idea that delivery/processing times had deteriorated so badly. Used to buy lots of bits and pieces from China on Ebay and they would all arrive in 2-4 weeks. The longest I ever waited was 6 weeks but that was over three years ago.

I bought a low value item on Ebay on 25/12, dispatched 26/12, sent to airline on 31/12 and nothing since then. If it doesn't turn up in a week I'll pay a bit more to buy from a UK reseller, which I should have done in the first place.

Collibosher · 24-01-2018 2:31am

Deleted User wrote: »

...was sent on the 24th December and arrived in Ireland on the 27th. What it's been doing since then is anyone's guess....

Where are you getting the information that it arrived in Ireland three days after it left China ?

I'd be amazed if it did, especially with christmas in between.

ED E · 24-01-2018 3:15am

Collibosher wrote: »

Where are you getting the information that it arrived in Ireland three days after it left China ?

I'd be amazed if it did, especially with christmas in between.

Quite possible:

LH8415-978
LH8415 Guangzhou - Novosibirsk - Frankfurt (3 Times weekly)
LH978 Frankfurt - Dublin (Daily)

Thats one of the routes, it flew:

04/01/2018 OVB FRA 10:30 11:00
Scheduled
Track >
04/01/2018 CAN OVB 03:55 09:30
Scheduled
Track >
30/12/2017 OVB FRA 10:30 10:45 11:00 10:54
Landed
Track >
30/12/2017 CAN OVB 03:55 04:38 09:30 09:36
Landed
Track >
28/12/2017 OVB FRA 10:30 11:16 11:00 11:41
Delayed
Track >
28/12/2017 CAN OVB 03:55 05:06 09:30 09:46
Delayed
Track >
23/12/2017 OVB FRA 10:30 11:00
Scheduled
Track >
23/12/2017 CAN OVB 03:55 09:30
Scheduled
Track >
22/12/2017 OVB FRA 10:30 13:30 11:00 13:26
Delayed
Track >

Thats just one of them. There are several, some going East-West and some vice versa. Christmas doesn't stop commercial aviation.

And no, it does not come by ship or surface.

Collibosher · 24-01-2018 3:33am

I wasn't very clear, but what specific tracking shows it arriving in Dublin three days after departure ?

I regularly ship from China, and I've never seen that with China Post or any of the cheap/free packet wholesalers.

Glebee · 25-01-2018 11:36am

Glebee wrote: »

I have a small order awaiting delivery from Gearbest. Nothing major. Ordered on 27th November and made it to Ireland on 12th December but still not delivered. What my chances of getting it at this stage??

Arrived this morning.:D How come it took since the 12th December to reach my home address? Is it customs? Just curious.

archer22 · 25-01-2018 12:35pm

Glebee wrote: »

Arrived this morning.:D How come it took since the 12th December to reach my home address? Is it customs? Just curious.

In a nutshell..An Post discriminates against post from non white countries.

Why that is only An Post can explain.

ohnonotgmail · 25-01-2018 12:45pm

archer22 wrote: »

In a nutshell..An Post discriminates against post from non white countries.

Why that is only An Post can explain.

well not quite. it discriminates against post from countries it receives little or no money from. For example post from hong kong or singapore does not have similar delays.

Farmer Bob · 25-01-2018 12:49pm

Collibosher wrote: »

Where are you getting the information that it arrived in Ireland three days after it left China ?

I'd be amazed if it did, especially with christmas in between.

EMS, used it myself a few times when stuck

archer22 · 25-01-2018 12:49pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

well not quite. it discriminates against post from countries it receives little or no money from. For example post from hong kong or singapore does not have similar delays.

Post from Hong Kong and Singapore has similar delays....you haven't been keeping up with the thread!!

ohnonotgmail · 25-01-2018 12:50pm

archer22 wrote: »

Post from Hong Kong and Singapore has similar delays....you haven't been keeping up with the thread!!

my experience does not match others it seems.

Anyone still waiting for stuff from China?

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