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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    Floyd via DQ
    I can't see Jude Law signing on for that. Not in public anyways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,053 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt




  • Registered Users Posts: 349 ✭✭hbhook


    Floyd via DQ
    I was gonna scoff at the idea of the conservative MW going for the KO but he'll hardly have to think about it! I'll definitely watch but I'm not gonna buy..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,730 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    hbhook wrote: »
    I hope that if this **** show is gonna go through that there's a decent undercard.

    This would be one fight that would need no undercard. Why you think it needs a decent undercard is puzzling...


  • Registered Users Posts: 349 ✭✭hbhook


    Floyd via DQ
    Give some up and comers some exposure. Maybe 1 or 2 boxing fights and 1 or 2 MMA. They don't have to be great match-ups either. It's not like half the people watching will realise. But yeah, most will tune in for the big one so why bother paying a few guys 60-100000...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,658 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Draw
    walshb wrote: »
    This would be one fight that would need no undercard. Why you think it needs a decent undercard is puzzling...
    It absolutely needs no undercard. It could be all about the sh?tshow up the top.
    But Floyd would be insane not to use it as a a springboard for some of his guys. Ditto Conor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,234 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Floyd via DQ
    I assume Mayweather would carry him for a few rounds to at least give the impression of a contest, but it won't change the fact that the fight ends whenever he feels like going home.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,730 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    I assume Mayweather would carry him for a few rounds to at least give the impression of a contest, but it won't change the fact that the fight ends whenever he feels like going home.

    A WWE feel off it, no doubt. Both sides in on the con.


  • Registered Users Posts: 349 ✭✭hbhook


    Floyd via DQ
    that's a good promo but if y'all into boxing and promos then look no further than gorillaproductions. Hate to say ''itodoso" but even Floyd said the other night he'd like to have someone like 'Tank' on the undercard of this possible fight. Can anyone see this going against GGG v Canelo?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    Floyd via DQ
    In line with this WWE level farce, Mayweather should come out to this:


  • Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭shrewd


    Looks like Aug 26 is the date


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,730 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    More BS news!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    Mayweather really couldnt go wrong making this fight.

    Makes a fortune . A sparring session would be tougher than the fight and gets that 50-0 record.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Conor via DQ
    How much is McGregor set to make from this ? I was hearing around $100m !! :O - win or lose


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    Conor via DQ
    Mayweather really couldnt go wrong making this fight.

    Makes a fortune . A sparring session would be tougher than the fight and gets that 50-0 record.

    I agree, but to be fair to mcgregor, if it was a ufc match, i think mcgregor would win hands down


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Conor via DQ
    Pity that other great lad Bruce Lee isn't still around.
    Video has emerged of him demonstrating lightening reflexes, and the good ole 'one inch punch' on old cinefilm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,730 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Pity that other great lad Bruce Lee isn't still around.
    Video has emerged of him demonstrating lightening reflexes, and the good ole 'one inch punch' on old cinefilm.

    He's be at best a water boy for either man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Conor via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    He's be at best a water boy for either man.

    Would appear to have reflexes from the matrix, in this newly discovered film.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,730 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Would appear to have reflexes from the matrix, in this newly discovered film.


    Did that person take their mask off?

    I'd safely say that I'd take that dude.....

    I wouldn't take McGregor though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    Would appear to have reflexes from the matrix, in this newly discovered film.


    This was an exhibition match at a competition Lee was involved in promoting


  • Registered Users Posts: 349 ✭✭hbhook


    Floyd via DQ
    *50-0-0 (27 ko's)


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 Sam_Doyle


    I think Mayweather doesn't have any chance against this predator. He is an unbelievable fighter. I'm looking forward to seeing if I'm right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls


    Floyd via DQ
    Sam_Doyle wrote: »
    I think Mayweather doesn't have any chance against this predator. He is an unbelievable fighter. I'm looking forward to seeing if I'm right.

    He is an unbelievable fighter in his own sport, Mayweather has been an unbelievable fighter in his sport for 20+ years, that's the difference in my opinion. Its in Floyd's yard, and he wouldn't take this unless he was confident


  • Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭buzzinfly83


    I'd be shocked if Mcgregor lands one clean punch. He will be chasing shadows with Floyd. Many boxers with a lot more skill than Mcgregor have been made to look average against Mayweather.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    Floyd via DQ
    Floyd Sr. would make sh*t of Conor never mind what Jr. could do. It's sad that it looks like this might actually happen. Shame on both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,234 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Floyd via DQ
    Surely whenever it does happen it won't get added to Mayweathers pro record? An exhibition bout sure, one to take him to 50 wins surely not?

    Maybe they would be worried they can't advertise an exhibition fight properly and charge people $100 to watch?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,730 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    I am still wondering how the authorities are sanctioning this from a health and safety aspect? One man a career veteran pro boxer who is undefeated against a man who has never boxed professionally. Surely some standards should apply here? It's not fooking tiddlywinks we are talking about. It is blows to the head.

    The excuse that Conor is in a combat sport already doesn't cut it. MMA and boxing are different. Boxing is pretty much all about blows to the head, and a lot of the time in a consistent manner. It's more dangerous than MMA in that sense, and here we have a non boxer meeting a career boxer in a boxing match?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Conor via DQ


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 63 ✭✭Red F Warrior


    Did anyone see Carl Froch saying McGregor would have no chance against Mayweather in a boxing match but if they wanted a fight they would have to do it in a MMA style. I know he is standing up for his sport but he sounds deluded. McGregor would destroy Mayweather if they fought in MMA.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,730 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Did anyone see Carl Froch saying McGregor would have no chance against Mayweather in a boxing match but if they wanted a fight they would have to do it in a MMA style. I know he is standing up for his sport but he sounds deluded. McGregor would destroy Mayweather if they fought in MMA.

    Because boxing is much more specific and defined.

    Mayweather has a better chance in MMA than Conor has in boxing. No delusion there at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    walshb wrote:
    Mayweather has a better chance in MMA than Conor has in boxing. No delusion there at all.


    That is complete delusion!

    Mayweather gets head kicked unconscious within 10 seconds in MMA

    Itl take Floyd a 12 rounds to get Conor out in boxing. Floyd ain't knocking Conor out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,730 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Itl take Floyd a 12 rounds to get Conor out in boxing. Floyd ain't knocking Conor out.

    Yes, it will if the "fight" is staged....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 63 ✭✭Red F Warrior


    walshb wrote:
    Mayweather has a better chance in MMA than Conor has in boxing. No delusion there at all.


    Completely disagree. Mayweather will have no idea how to deal with kicks or grappling. As said already, a head kick won't be easy to deal with. McGregor boxes in his sport albeit too a lesser degree. Mayweather will have no idea how to deal with the other aspects of MMA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    walshb wrote: »
    Because boxing is much more specific and defined.

    Mayweather has a better chance in MMA than Conor has in boxing. No delusion there at all.

    Pure delusion.

    A boxing match will likely go over at least round. An MMA bout would be over in a minute.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    That is complete delusion!

    Mayweather gets head kicked unconscious within 10 seconds in MMA

    Itl take Floyd a 12 rounds to get Conor out in boxing. Floyd ain't knocking Conor out.


    If it goes the full 12 rounds he wouldnt have taken him out it would be a decision .

    Really when you have people who actually think McGregor can hang with Floyd why wouldnt they agree to this farce.

    They know a lot of the public are so gullible they will part with their cash.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Really when you have people who actually think McGregor can hang with Floyd why wouldnt they agree to this farce.


    I can't see Floyd knocking anyone out at this stage of his career never mind McGregor who has an iron beard.

    It'll be a lobside decision for Mayweather with 10 or 11 10-8 rounds

    My heart says Conor by KO round 2..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    I can't see Floyd knocking anyone out at this stage of his career never mind McGregor who has an iron beard.

    It'll be a lobside decision for Mayweather with 10 or 11 10-8 rounds

    My heart says Conor by KO round 2..


    I cant get over how brainwashed people are


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,730 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    It'll be a lobside decision for Mayweather with 10 or 11 10-8 rounds
    .

    And who would keep sending their man out for that? Would the refereee maybe not stop it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,658 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Draw
    walshb wrote: »
    Mayweather has a better chance in MMA than Conor has in boxing. No delusion there at all.
    Ah come on. How do you keep switching between reasonable informing posting and delusion such as the above.

    Conor has next to no chance in boxing. Shouldnt even but up for debate. Conor has excellent boxing/striking for MMA - but MMA is not boxing. Most agree.

    But however much Conor is out of his depth in a pro boxing match. Floyd is moreso out of his depth in MMA by a degrees of magnitude. AINEC
    Conor has done striking experience and familiarity. Floyd has no grappling. None. He's less than a white belt. He'd get absolutely strangled.

    If we were to fight under MMA rules on Saturday. I fancy my chances against Floyd, never mind Conor.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    Mellor wrote: »
    Ah come on. How do you keep switching between reasonable informing posting and delusion such as the above.

    Conor has next to no chance in boxing. Shouldnt even but up for debate. Conor has excellent boxing/striking for MMA - but MMA is not boxing. Most agree.

    But however much Conor is out of his depth in a pro boxing match. Floyd is moreso out of his depth in MMA by a degrees of magnitude. AINEC
    Conor has done striking experience and familiarity. Floyd has no grappling. None. He's less than a white belt. He'd get absolutely strangled.

    If we were to fight under MMA rules on Saturday. I fancy my chances against Floyd, never mind Conor.

    I agree with your post bar this. Floyd's the P4P best grappler in boxing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,730 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Mellor wrote: »
    Ah come on. How do you keep switching between reasonable informing posting and delusion such as the above.

    Conor has next to no chance in boxing. Shouldnt even but up for debate. Conor has excellent boxing/striking for MMA - but MMA is not boxing. Most agree.

    But however much Conor is out of his depth in a pro boxing match. Floyd is moreso out of his depth in MMA by a degrees of magnitude. AINEC
    Conor has done striking experience and familiarity. Floyd has no grappling. None. He's less than a white belt. He'd get absolutely strangled.

    If we were to fight under MMA rules on Saturday. I fancy my chances against Floyd, never mind Conor.


    Boxing is more defined/specialist and specific.

    MMA is a mix of a lot of things, hence more chance Floyd could win. Very little if you ask me, but I would (if I had to) bet on Floyd beating Conor (lucky punch) in MMA compared to Conor beating Floyd (lucky punch) in boxing. He only has a punchers chance really, but being a boxer that's a possibility if he connects. I doubt he would be near committed enough and would end up getting taken down and mauled.

    It is not at all delusional. It's statistics, plain and simple.

    BTW, percent wise I would say Floyd would have a 1/100 chance and Conor a 1/200 chance.

    Just to add I would bet more confidently on many other boxers having a chance vs. Conor in MMA than Floyd

    Floyd is far too much a defender/cautious type boxer to have a good chance to land that lucky KO.

    Plenty other boxers far more aggressive and committed could get the KO shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,730 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    In a nutshell both really only have a punchers chance (hand striking) to defeat each other in their opposing disciplines.

    Are people saying it's delusional to think that Floyd has a better chance to get the punch in (in MMA) and win compared to Conor getting it in (in boxing)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    walshb wrote: »
    Boxing is more defined/specialist and specific.

    MMA is a mix of a lot of things, hence more chance Floyd could win. Very little if you ask me, but I would (if I had to) bet on Floyd beating Conor (lucky punch) in MMA compared to Conor beating Floyd (lucky punch) in boxing

    It is not at all delusional. It's statistics, plain and simple.

    BTW, percent wise I would say Floyd would have a 1/100 chance and Conor a 1/200 chance.

    Just to add I would bet more confidently on many other boxers having a chance vs. Conor in MMA than Floyd

    Floyd is far too much a defender/cautious type boxer to have a good chance to land that lucky KO.

    Plenty other boxers far more aggressive and committed could get the KO shot.

    Your logic is flawed though. Being a good boxer doesn't mean you will be a good MMA boxer, they are two very different beasts.

    Floyd's whole defence would be rendered useless in MMA, doing a shoulder roll won't work in MMA because your legs are left wide open and too close to your opponent.

    In MMA Floyd wouldn't last more than a minute, simple as. Most people would agree that Conor will probably last a few rounds at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,730 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Lukker- wrote: »
    Your logic is flawed though. Being a good boxer doesn't mean you will be a good MMA boxer, they are two very different beasts.

    Floyd's whole defence would be rendered useless in MMA, doing a shoulder roll won't work in MMA because your legs are left wide open and too close to your opponent.

    In MMA Floyd wouldn't last more than a minute, simple as. Most people would agree that Conor will probably last a few rounds at least.

    The distance they last is not being debated. It's the chances of victory.

    Both really only have a lucky punch chance. I think it's more than reasonable to suggest that a boxer has a better chance to get it in the opposing sport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,658 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Draw
    walshb wrote: »
    MMA is a mix of a lot of things, hence more chance Floyd could win.
    Or in reality, it means more ways he can lose. It's like backing a Usain bolt in the backstroke because he's "fast".
    It is not at all delusional. It's statistics, plain and simple.
    What statistics?

    Statistically, Conor's punching ability is miles better than Floyds grappling ability.
    walshb wrote: »
    In a nutshell both really only have a punchers chance (hand striking) to defeat each other in their opposing disciplines.

    Are people saying it's delusional to think that Floyd has a better chance to get the punch in (in MMA) and win compared to Conor getting it in (in boxing)?
    Yes. That's exactly what I saying. I'd only expect it from somebody who never seen grappling in MMA tbh.

    It only makes sense if the MMA fighter had no idea who Floyd was and stood there trading punches with him. But obviously, no fighter would. They'd take him down and put him a spot where he can't punch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    walshb wrote: »
    The distance they last is not being debated. It's the chances of victory.

    Both really only have a lucky punch chance. I think it's more than reasonable to suggest that a boxer has a better chance to get it in the opposing sport.


    I know where you are coming from . Once a boxer connects flush with a 4oz glove the fight is over.

    A MMA fighter wouldnt have once punch KO power with boxing gloves on .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,730 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    I know where you are coming from . Once a boxer connects flush with a 4oz glove the fight is over.

    A MMA fighter wouldnt have once punch KO power with boxing gloves on .

    Not even the force of the shot, but the chances of scoring it effectively to get the KO. Boxers specialize in punching/hand striking. Yes, MMA offers differences in how that is implemented, but I still feel that a trained boxer has the better chance to score it in the octagon than the MMA fighter has to score it in the ring...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,658 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Draw
    Guys, you know takedowns exist right?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,730 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Mellor wrote: »
    Yes. That's exactly what I saying. I'd only expect it from somebody who never seen grappling in MMA tbh.

    It only makes sense if the MMA fighter had no idea who Floyd was and stood there trading punches with him. But obviously, no fighter would. They'd take him down and put him a spot where he can't punch.

    Yes, but the MMA fighter still has to get close to do this, and this is where a trained boxer has the chance to land the KO shot. That chance for me is better than the reverse, ie Conor scoring a KO on Floyd....

    No issue with the opposing view here, but IMO Carl Froch is not delusional with his take on it.


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