La Vuelta 2017 - General chat

odyssey06

dastardly00 wrote: »

That BMC team looks like it has too many leaders and not enough domestiques.

Or too many great domestiques and without a great leader...

Daroxtar

TheBlaaMan wrote: »

No Adam Hansen listed so has decided that 18 (is it?) GT's in a row is enough - that said, there is always room to be shoehorned in the starting list.

19!!
Hansen added to the roster after Vals fractured his hip.

odyssey06

BMC team announced... BMC Racing is heading into the Vuelta a Espaith a strong team but without a clear general classification leader. The nine-man roster announced Monday includes Tejay van Garderen, Nicolas Roche and Samuel Shez, all of whom will start the race with a top GC result in mind, while Alessandro De Marchi, Damiano Caruso and Rohan Dennis will be on the hunt for stage wins. Kilian Frankiny will make his Grand Tour debut, while Daniel Oss and Francisco Ventoso will supply the power and protection for the GC riders.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bmc-going-into-vuelta-a-espana-without-a-clear-gc-leader/

They'll be targeting the opening team time trial to get their hands on the red jersey...

Bambaata

Anyone follow vuelta before? Have flights booked and am looking at a camper but haven't been to any grand tour yet. Is it generally a case of get to climb/spot for the day the night before and leave after that stage for the next spot? Anyone got any tips? Would love to bring my bike too but the thoughts of lugging around the bike box in camper is putting me off but am struggling to find anywhere around Bilbao to hire!

retalivity

No deignan in the sky team

retalivity

retalivity wrote: »

No deignan in the sky team

Tour of Britain for him then ? Haven't seen him in a race since the Dauphine I think.

neris

retalivity wrote: »

No deignan in the sky team

Is he signed up with sky for 2018?

neris

neris wrote: »

Is he signed up with sky for 2018?

Not that I've seen reported but he is out of contract at the end of the season.

brocbrocach

Deleted User wrote: »

Not that I've seen reported but he is out of contract at the end of the season.

Aquablue?

Keeks

brocbrocach wrote: »

Aquablue?

Not sure but just having a quick look a Procycling Stats and it has 15 leaving Team Sky....

http://www.procyclingstats.com/team.php?id=1423&c=8&season=2017

Could be just that they have not confirmed contracts for 2018..... but still it is over half their roster.....

neris

Always thought Deignan was abit out his depth at sky with the roster of riders they have. He seems to be used by them for the minor races and isnt coming on as a rider, be one of those guys you,d fear would slip from a top team into a mediocre pro conti team and then just vanish off the scene

retalivity

Tbf to him, hes been around for over a decade now, and has more than held his own as good mountain dom im the odd gt he has ridden for sky.

Its just they have so many other, arguably better riders

Hes also done the wt -pro conti trip, and came back up to wt again

neris

Start list for the race

AG2R La Mondiale*
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
Romain Bardet (Fra)
Nico Denz (Ger)
Alexandre Geniez (Fra)
Alexis Gougeard (Fra)
Matteo Montaguti (Ita)
Domenico Pozzovivo (Ita)
Clement Chevrier (Fra)
Hugo Houle (Can)
Samuel Dumoulin (Fra)
Julien Duval (Fra)

Cofidis, Credits Solutions
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
Guillaume Bonnafond (Fra)
Luis Angel Mate (Spa)
Daniel Navarro (Spa)
Anthony Perez (Fra)
Stephane Rossetto (Fra)
Anthony Turgis (Fra)
Jimmy Turgis (Fra)
Jonas Van Genechten (Bel)
Kenneth Vanbilsen (Bel)

Astana Pro Team
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
Fabio Aru (Ita)
Pello Bilbao (Spa)
Sergei Chernetski (Rus)
Laurens De Vreese (Bel)
Jesper Hansen (Den)
Miguel Angel Lopez (Col)
Alexey Lutsenko (Kaz)
Luis Leon Sanchez (Spa)
Nikita Stalnov (Kaz)

Bahrain-Merida
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
Valerio Agnoli (Ita)
Manuele Boaro (Ita)
Ivan Garcia (Spa)
Javier Moreno (Spa)
Antonio Nibali (Ita)
Vincenzo Nibali (Ita)
Domen Novak (Slo)
Franco Pellizotti (Ita)
Giovanni Visconti (Ita)

BMC Racing Team
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
Damiano Caruso (Ita)
Alessandro De Marchi (Ita)
Rohan Dennis (Aus)
Kilian Frankiny (Swi)
Francisco Ventoso (Spa)
Daniel Oss (Ita)
Nicolas Roche (Irl)
Samuel Sanchez (Spa)
Tejay Van Garderen (USA)

Bora-Hansgrohe
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
Emanuel Buchmann (Ger)
Michal Kolar (Svk)
Cesare Benedetti (Ita)
Patrick Konrad (Aut)
Rafal Majka (Pol)
Christoph Pfingsten (Ger)
Pawel Poljanski (Pol)
Andreas Schillinger (Ger)
Michael Schwarzmann (Ger)

Cannondale-Drapac*
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
Brendan Canty (Aus)
Simon Clarke (Aus)
Joe Dombrowski (USA)
Davide Formolo (Ita)
Tom Scully (NZl)
Toms Skuijns (Lat)
Andrew Talansky (USA)
Davide Villella (Ita)
Michael Woods (Can)
R Hugh Carthy (GBr)
R Lawson Craddock (USA)

FDJ
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
Arnaud Courteille (Fra)
Marc Fournier (Fra)
Daniel Hoelgaard (Nor)
Johan Le Bon (Fra)
Tobias Ludvigsson (Swe)
Jeremy Maison (Fra)
Lorrenzo Manzin (Fra)
Odd Christian Eiking (Nor)
Anthony Roux (Fra)

Lotto Soudal
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
Sander Armee (Bel)
Bart De Clercq (Bel)
Thomas De Gendt (Bel)
Jens Debusschere (Bel)
Tomasz Marczynski (Pol)
Remy Mertz (Bel)
Maxime Monfort (Bel)
Adam Hansen (Aus)
Jelle Wallays (Bel)

Movistar
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
Antonio Pedrero (Spa)
Jorge Arcas Pena (Spa)
Carlos Betancur (Col)
Richard Carapaz (Ecu)
Ruben Fernandez (Spa)
Daniel Moreno (Spa)
Nelson Oliveira (Por)
Jose Joaquin Rojas (Spa)
Marc Soler (Spa)

Orica-Scott
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
Sam Bewley (NZl)
Esteban Chaves (Col)
Jack Haig (Aus)
Magnus Cort Nielson (Den)
Christopher Juul Jensen (Den)
Svein Tuft (Can)
Carlos Verona (Spa)
Adam Yates (GBr)
Simon Yates (GBr)

Quick-Step Floors*
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
Julian Alaphilippe (Fra)
Eros Capecchi (Ita)
David De La Cruz (Spa)
Tim Declercq (Bel)
Bob Jungels (Lux)
Enric Mas (Spa)
Maximilian Schachmann (Ger)
Niki Terpstra (Ned)
Matteo Trentin (Ita)
R Gianluca Brambilla (Ita)
R Dries Devenyns (Bel)

Dimension Data*
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
Igor Anton (Spa)
Mekseb Debesay (Eri)
Nicolas Dougall (RSA)
Omar Fraile (Spa)
Jacques Janse Van Rensburg (RSA)
Ben King (USA)
Merhawi Kudus (Eri)
Lachlan Morton (Aus)
Serge Pauwels (Bel)
R Ben O'Connor (Aus)
R Youcef Reguigui (Alg)

Katusha-Alpecin
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
Maxim Belkov (Rus)
Sven Erik Bystrom (Nor)
José Goncalves (Por)
Marco Haller (Aut)
Michael Morkov (Den)
Alberto Losada (Spa)
Matvey Mamykin (Rus)
Rein Taaramae (Est)
Ilnur Zakarin (Rus)

LottoNL-Jumbo
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
George Bennett (NZl)
Antwan Tolhoek (Ned)
Koen Bouwman (Ned)
Stef Clement (Ned)
Floris De Tier (Bel)
Steven Kruijswijk (Ned)
Bert-Jan Lindeman (Ned)
Juan Jose Lobato (Spa)
Daan Olivier (Ned)

Team Sky
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
Salvatore Puccio (Ita)
Christopher Froome (GBr)
Christian Knees (Ger)
David Lopez (Spa)
Gianni Moscon (Ita)
Mikel Nieve (Spa)
Wout Poels (Ned)
Diego Rosa (Ita)
Ian Stannard (GBr)

Team Sunweb
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
Warren Barguil (Fra)
Johannes Frohlinger (Ger)
Chad Haga (USA)
Chris Hamilton (Aus)
Lennard Kamna (Ger)
Wilco Kelderman (Ned)
Soren Kragh Andersen (Den)
Sam Oomen (Ned)
Lennard Hofstede(Ned)

Trek-Segafredo
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
Alberto Contador (Spa)
Koen De Kort (Ned)
John Degenkolb (Ger)
Markel Irizar (Spa)
Jesus Hernandez (Spa)
Jarlinson Pantano (Col)
Edward Theuns (Bel)
Julien Bernard (Fra)
Peter Stetina (USA)

UAE Team Emirates
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
Anass Ait El Abda (Mor)
Darwin Atapuma (Col)
Rui Costa (Por)
Louis Meintjes (RSA)
Sacha Modolo (Ita)
Matej Mohoric (Slo)
Przemyslaw Niemiec (Pol)
Jan Polanc (Slo)
Federico Zurlo (Ita)

Aqua Blue Sport
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
Adam Blythe (GBr)
Mark Christian (GBr)
Stefan Denifl (Aut)
Aaron Gate (NZl)
Lasse Norman Hansen (Den)
Michel Kreder (Ned)
Lars Petter Nordhaug (Nor)
Larry Warbasse (USA)

Caja Rural-Seguros RGA
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
David Arroyo (Spa)
Fabricio Ferrari (Uru)
Luis Mas (Spa)
Sergio Pardilla (Spa)
Rafael Reis (Por)
Jaime Roson (Spa)
Diego Rubio (Spa)
Hector Saez (Spa)
Nicholas Schultz (Aus)

Manzana Postobon Team*
# Rider Name (Country) Team Result
Hernan Aguirre (Col)
Hernando Bohorquez (Col)
Juan Sebastian Molano (Col)
Fernando Orjuela (Col)
Juan Felipe Osorio (Col)
Bernardo Suaza (Col)
Ricardo Vilela (Por)
Jetse Bol (Ned)
R Yecid Arturo Sierra (Col)
R Juan Pablo Villegas (Col)

Thud

Aqua Blue missing one?

Bambaata

Was Conor Dunne not listed previously?

Cee-Jay-Cee

He was on the list I seen yesterday on some of the FB Cycling pages.

Eamonnator

This is the most up to date start list, that I've seen. Cannondale Drapac seems to be the only team not finalised.
Two Irish and one, who used to be Irish.

http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Vuelta_a_Espana_2017_Startlist

Just watching highlights of last year on Eurosport, where was the Quintana of last year in the TDF and Giro this year. He should have skipped one of those this year watching him go with Contador early and then seriously hurt froome on stage 15 it's like watching him in the canyon ad , a marvel to watch on a bike but we haven't seen that in him this year at all. Actually Chavez was good last year too.

Andy Magic

Deleted User wrote: »

Just watching highlights of last year on Eurosport, where was the Quintana of last year in the TDF and Giro this year. He should have skipped one of those this year watching him go with Contador early and then seriously hurt froome on stage 15 it's like watching him in the canyon ad , a marvel to watch on a bike but we haven't seen that in him this year at all. Actually Chavez was good last year too.

I watched it last night and was thinking the exact same, I also think Froome looked better at the Vuelta last year in comparison to this years tour

Daroxtar

I think finance dictated that Froome would be gunning for the Tour but on a personal level La Vuelta is his main target. He came to the Tour over weight and under cooked and still won. He's going to be primed for this.

neris

Recon Ride/cyclingnews preview podcast.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/recon-ride-vuelta-a-espana-preview-podcast/

neris

Anyone else able to volunteer for stage previews? I,ll get stages 1 & 2 done but cant do stage 3. Can get a few of the weekday stages in next week

Daroxtar

Ya, put me down for some.

CrowdedHouse

Samuel Sanchez BMC errr... 'adverse finding' - out of Veulta

The tax man

https://cyclingtips.com/2017/08/former-olympic-champion-samuel-sanchez-fails-anti-doping-test/

Anyone able to do a few stages for BMC?

MPFGLB

The tax man wrote: »

https://cyclingtips.com/2017/08/former-olympic-champion-samuel-sanchez-fails-anti-doping-test/

Anyone able to do a few stages for BMC?

Looks like BMC are going from lots of leaders to none soon

Hermans crash at Poland, TJs fragile demeanour and now Sanchez on HGH ( at his age ?) .....

Any boardise volunteers for the Angry Loo ?

Daroxtar

MPFGLB wrote: »

Looks like BMC are going from lots of leaders to none soon

Hermans crash at Poland, TJs fragile demeanour and now Sanchez on HGH ( at his age ?) .....

Any boardise volunteers for the Angry Loo ?

Me

neris

MPFGLB wrote: »

Looks like BMC are going from lots of leaders to none soon

BMC have been a mess for years, no clear direction, no real leaders or plan and then the whole Tejay thing

dastardly00

I suppose we were due a doping violation since a Grand Tour is just about to start. That seems the way the UCI like to roll these days...

Pirazzi & Ruffoni just before the start of the Giro
Cardoso just before the start of the TdF
And now Sanchez just before the start of the Vuelta

GHRP seems to be pretty popular at the moment.

velo.2010

MPFGLB wrote: »

Sanchez on HGH ( at his age ?) .....

Have you seen Super Mario lately???

Even if your not a pro, Testosterone, HGH etc. are readily prescribed these days for men who want to keep some of their youthfulness.

Victor Conte (he of BALCO and the drug THG) painted a very depressing picture lately. He said micro-dosing is almost impossible to detect along with substances like IGF-1 LR3.

I just watch sport these days...