Super Mario Odyssey

Turtwig

GhostyMcGhost wrote: »

Any tips on this? I literally can’t win one race in any kingdom. Find the time a bit tight. Finished 2nd once and it was an absolute push. I’ve been taking shortcuts as much as I could but seems quite difficult

Star Lord wrote: »

Use long jumps and anything that boosts speed, along with short cuts.

This.

tailgunner wrote: »

Best thing to do is to follow the leading Koopa and copy what he does. Once you've mastered that, chained long-jumps will give you an edge, as it's faster than running.

And this. But not just the 'lead' Koopa they all take different paths, and some Koopas do some segments better than the overall winner. Observe them all. If nothing else it will show you some really interesting modes of traversal.

Corholio wrote: »

Also using the roll with joy con motion control gives you a great boost on flat terrain, especially near the end where it's always a flatter finish near the goal.

It's probably faster overall not use motion control and just keep the rhtym of the rolls correct. Mashing roll as fast possible is actually slower. It's hard to explain as I don't fully understand the mechanic myself but you gotta pace the roll to the contact with the gradient and keep mario's momentum up. Like a swing, or a pendulum, at a certain cycle in his roll if you press 'Y' or 'waggle the controller' he'll maintain top speed. I think motion control gives you have a faster overall speed but the precision required for maintaining the higher level momentum is much harder. Much more consistent to just stick to analogue inputs and time the rolls frame perfectly. Even over shorter spans of distance.

Dunder Mifflin

I'm watching this speed-run in complete awe: https://www.speedrun.com/run/y9786gnm

Am I correct in assuming that this guy was most likely using the Pro controller?

wheresmahbombs

Man, is the

postgame

******* awesome.

wolfe

Super Mario Oddysey is great! whoever doesnt have the game should buy it.

TitianGerm

I've just hit 210 moons and just about to go to the Luncheon Kingdom. Is this a lot for this far in the game?

wheresmahbombs

Welp, more than I had when I reached there.

TitianGerm

wheresmahbombs wrote: »

Welp, more than I had when I reached there.

I haven't gone back to any previous world's (bar Cap Kingdom) so I wasn't sure. Managing to collect the majority of the purple coins in each level as well.

emmetkenny

emmetkenny wrote: »

I've just hit 210 moons and just about to go to the Luncheon Kingdom. Is this a lot for this far in the game?

You are most certainly exploring for sure. I did the same.
Drive on as you are it's fine. Hard to explain without spoiling really until you complete the game.

TitianGerm

M!Ck^ wrote: »

You are most certainly exploring for sure. I did the same.
Drive on as you are it's fine. Hard to explain without spoiling really until you complete the game.

Not really going out of my way but if I see something a bit odd I'll have a look at it. I'd guess it's after years of playing games if something looks out of place there's usually something hidden there.

CastorTroy

emmetkenny wrote: »

Not really going out of my way but if I see something a bit odd I'll have a look at it. I'd guess it's after years of playing games if something looks out of place there's usually something hidden there.

Especially after playing Breath of the Wild. Is it even possible to go from point A to point B without getting sidetracked?

Brainz

Me seven year old is on the darker side of the moon, is this the last level?

TitianGerm

CastorTroy wrote: »

Especially after playing Breath of the Wild. Is it even possible to go from point A to point B without getting sidetracked?

I haven't started BOTW yet

tony1980

emmetkenny wrote: »

I haven't started BOTW yet

You are in for a treat!

TitianGerm

tony1980 wrote: »

You are in for a treat!

I picked up the Pro Controller last week so will be using that for Zelda.

Back to Odyssey, it's not very difficult or challenging but I am enjoying it a lot more now that if gotten used to the motion controls.

It's just fun, in a different way to other games I've enjoyed, but a really good adventure.

Banjo

Have to say, it's fun but no more so than SM3dW was. I enjoy playing it but it doesn't call to me when I'm not playing it. If I pick up my Switch I'm more likely to go for Rocket League or Gungeon. Disappointed so far.

Andrew76

Banjo wrote: »

Have to say, it's fun but no more so than SM3dW was. I enjoy playing it but it doesn't call to me when I'm not playing it. If I pick up my Switch I'm more likely to go for Rocket League or Gungeon. Disappointed so far.

I'm finding the opposite, it's very addictive trying to collect all the purple coins in each level. The kids are loving it, thank god for separate saves. It's easily the best 3D Mario game imo.

Bob24

emmetkenny wrote: »

Back to Odyssey, it's not very difficult or challenging but I am enjoying it a lot more now that if gotten used to the motion controls.

I'm using it in handheld more with the joy cons attached to the Switch because my setup to use it as a regular console is not great, and while it is no doubt a great game even played that way, I indeed feel like I am missing out not being able to use motion control.

iamtony

Brainz wrote: »

Me seven year old is on the darker side of the moon, is this the last level?

That great going for a 7 year old well done to them, Im not sure but I'd guess one or 2 more surprises when more moons are collected.

TitianGerm

Bob24 wrote: »

I'm using it in handheld more with the joy cons attached to the Switch because my setup to use it as a regular console is not great, and while it is no doubt a great game even played that way, I indeed feel like I am missing out not being able to use motion control.

I've played about 60% tabletop and 40% on the TV. Haven't tried Handheld mode at all.

Andrew76

Bob24 wrote: »

I'm using it in handheld more with the joy cons attached to the Switch because my setup to use it as a regular console is not great, and while it is no doubt a great game even played that way, I indeed feel like I am missing out not being able to use motion control.

I'm playing it exclusively docked with the Pro Controller. It plays perfectly for me and the only time I've needed motion controls to get a few moons was taking over the frogs to do their extra high jump. Thankfully that's rare as it feels ridiculous shaking the controller.

Up to 243 moons and just reached

The Luncheon Kingdom

.

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Andrew76 wrote: »

I've needed motion controls to get a few moons was taking over the frogs to do their extra high jump. Thankfully that's rare as it feels ridiculous shaking the controller.

Didn't realise that the could do an extra high jump, good to know.

For those that say it is easy, I'm post-game with 386 moons and it is getting much trickier, plenty of tricky platforming with some under tight time limits.

Reckon I'll get to 500 and then start BOTW, going back to Mario ever now and again to get more moons.

iamtony

Have over 500 moons and beat the very last level yesterday. Probably my favourite level in the game, must of took me over 100 tries. Has anyone else finished it?
I thought I'd be ready to move on to another game. I stuck a few hours into stardew valley last night. I am starting to get into it but I still want to keep going with odyssey till I get up to 999 moons. My gaming life is in turmoil.

P.s my finished review of the game is 10 out of 10. I love it and I was right in my prediction that it just gets better and better the deeper into it you get and the more you perfect the moves. Perfection!

CastorTroy

For those who like knowing people working for rival companies play Nintendo games

https://twitter.com/Neil_Druckmann/status/955203046547513344

He of Naughty Dog fame

Banjo

Thought I'd made it to the luncheon kingdom everyone talks about.... but I was stuck on top of a platform way up in the sky and couldn't do anything but go back the sneaky way I came.

A little underwhelmed by New Donk City initially, as there seemed to be large areas that are completely unpopulated, almost as if I'd jumped behind a wall I wasn't supposed to. Eventually it was all explained away but it seemed like uncharacteristically sloppy level design to let me go there in the first place. And then the city won me over


Still playing it, so clearly it's still fun, but it hasn't changed my life or my view of gaming like BotW did. One massive thing in it's favour is that unlike, say, SM3DW (where you're running from A to B and if you can't get to B you can't progress) when you hit a bit that frustrates you you have the freedom to throw yourself at it endlessly or walk away and do something else. And in a weird way that makes you more motivated to conquer that jump or wall slide or whatever it is, because no one is making you do it.

I had been ignoring the purple coin shop until last night, finally understand what the non-outfit bits and bobs are for and realised that I've been missing a lot of flavour in my inter-world cut-scenes. It's a fun little incentive to search every nook and cranny.

iamtony

Once you complete the main campaign and start hunting for moons it becomes much more interesting. My advice would be to play through without searching for all the moons, just get what's required then after the ending of the main campaign start aiming to get nearly all moons, if not all, before moving on. And learn how to do the hat jump stuff if you haven't already it really makes it more fun.

Banjo

I can't do that hat-jump reliably. I don't think that's going to change. I'm playing undocked most of the time, and 80% of the time I Ground-Pound, the other 20% I jump and the hat comes back. The button you have to hold to keep the hat out is the same button you have to tap in conjunction with the ground-pound button to lunge, so it's a weird jump-tap-tap'n'hold that I can't get my hands to do.
I've done it once or twice but never under pressure From watching my 4 and 9 year olds playing together, it might be easier with 2 people (or 2 controllers), you can move the hat to exactly where you want it to be and leave it there for damn near as long as you like. Handy for reaching tough areas that only require 1 fancy jump where you're not under time pressure .

madmoe

Banjo wrote: »

I can't do that hat-jump reliably. I don't think that's going to change. I'm playing undocked most of the time, and 80% of the time I Ground-Pound, the other 20% I jump and the hat comes back. The button you have to hold to keep the hat out is the same button you have to tap in conjunction with the ground-pound button to lunge, so it's a weird jump-tap-tap'n'hold that I can't get my hands to do.
I've done it once or twice but never under pressure From watching my 4 and 9 year olds playing together, it might be easier with 2 people (or 2 controllers), you can move the hat to exactly where you want it to be and leave it there for damn near as long as you like. Handy for reaching tough areas that only require 1 fancy jump where you're not under time pressure .

I'm getting better at it but still not great under pressure like when you are running against the koopas! You definitely need to be able to do it consistently in those situations!

Mr E

I've been playing a lot more since finishing the game (I've been off sick for the last few weeks, so the Switch has been a godsend). Some of the new post game platforming sections are a nightmare!

I'm having trouble with the hat jump too. Must practice more - I'm doing sections where it would make my life a lot easier.

CiDeRmAn

I've been trying the hat jump while away from the console, and all that has happened is I've stood on my flat cap, fallen in the mud or had to buy a new cap.
So, no cap jumping for me anymore.

Andrew76

Banjo wrote: »

I can't do that hat-jump reliably. I don't think that's going to change. I'm playing undocked most of the time, and 80% of the time I Ground-Pound, the other 20% I jump and the hat comes back. The button you have to hold to keep the hat out is the same button you have to tap in conjunction with the ground-pound button to lunge, so it's a weird jump-tap-tap'n'hold that I can't get my hands to do.

Is this the double hat jump you are all talking about? I couldn't do it for ages but then it clicked and is second nature now. The sequence I use is:

press B (to jump),

press Y (to throw hat),
press and hold ZL + Y (to fly towards hat and jump on it),

after Mario jumps on the hat the first time (you'll hear a sound) - then let go of ZL+Y and repeat the same combo:

press Y (to throw hat),
press and hold ZL + Y (to fly towards hat and jump on it)

I think the important sequence I wasn't getting initially was the holding down of ZL+Y until after Mario jumps on the hat. So the press Y, press and hold ZL+Y combo is just repeated twice either side of the first hat throw. Hope that helps.

Banjo

No, it doesn't help at all
Because I'm struggling to do the single hat bounce and now I know I'm expected to pull it off twice

in a row, like.

Jaysus!

Andrew76

Banjo wrote: »

No, it doesn't help at all
Because I'm struggling to do the single hat bounce and now I know I'm expected to pull it off twice

in a row, like.

Jaysus!

:pac:

Just tried it there in undocked mode (I normally play with the Pro Controller) and it's a little bit more awkward with the smaller trigger and buttons.

What about just trying the forward somersault jump instead?

B, ZL+Y

Actually ZL+Y is really hold ZL then press Y quickly after.

Get that down and you just need to put a Y in between.

TitianGerm

Has anyone had moons not popping? I'm missing number 23 on Cap Kingdom (out on a hat in the fog) when I throw cappy onto the gold spike nothing happens

iamtony

Yeah it honestly does become second nature. Just keep at it. I can do it in portable or docked or whatever. I'll record a clip shortly of me playing the last level so spoiler warning I'll quote this message. You will become so good at it you will confidently take massive risks that you never normally would. And you can cover such distance it's great.

iamtony

P. S my 8 year old could do it after about 5 tries.

iamtony

emmetkenny wrote: »

Has anyone had moons not popping? I'm missing number 23 on Cap Kingdom (out on a hat in the fog) when I throw cappy onto the gold spike nothing happens

Your holding the throw button till it spins really fast right?

TitianGerm

iamtony wrote: »

Your holding the throw button till it spins really fast right?

Was just throwing it onto it

Ok all coins and moons in Cap Kingdom now

iamtony

emmetkenny wrote: »

Was just throwing it onto it

Ha. You know what to do...

iamtony

iamtony wrote: »

Yeah it honestly does become second nature. Just keep at it. I can do it in portable or docked or whatever. I'll record a clip shortly of me playing the last level so spoiler warning I'll quote this message. You will become so good at it you will confidently take massive risks that you never normally would. And you can cover such distance it's great.

https://twitter.com/iamtonyfarrell/status/955917781421051906

P. S you don't need to hold all sorts of buttons to do it. Just good timing. Jump, throw hat, press ground pound and then you again to dive forward, for the second dive just throw hat again ground pound and you to dive again.

iamtony

iamtony wrote: »

Yeah it honestly does become second nature. Just keep at it. I can do it in portable or docked or whatever. I'll record a clip shortly of me playing the last level so spoiler warning I'll quote this message. You will become so good at it you will confidently take massive risks that you never normally would. And you can cover such distance it's great.

https://twitter.com/iamtonyfarrell/status/955920951622877184
That's a better example.

J Mysterio

As with others, my first Super Mario since SNES. I remember being jealous of people who had the N64 for that Mario then.

Anyway, this is great. I worried for a moment if it might be 'too kiddy', but it charms you and you forget about it! The puzzles are nice and clever but often really intuitive which has its own strange satisfaction.

Star Lord

Hat jump:

Jump / Backflip / Sideflip / Butt-stomp-jump, then throw the hat, and hold Y.
While the hat is spinning in place, hold ZL + press X to dive. Once you bounce off the hat, let go of ZL and you can dive again out of the bounce for that bit extra distance should you need it.

No need to have split second timing with holding Y, letting it go, tapping it again etc.

Oh, and no way to do the cappy bounce a second time unless you touch ground between them.

Banjo

Ok, finally clicked. I kept thinking I was ground pounding because I was hitting zl too early.
It was because I was hitting it too late and it was reading it after y.
Once you stop fighting the ground pound it's easier.

TitianGerm

Tried a few Koopa races last night. Got 34 seconds on Cascade Kingdom and was delighted with my time.

Looked at the leaderboard and saw 14ish seconds was top.... How the hell

RobertFoster

emmetkenny wrote: »

Tried a few Koopa races last night. Got 34 seconds on Cascade Kingdom and was delighted with my time.

Looked at the leaderboard and saw 14ish seconds was top.... How the hell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H_gLw0GpY0

Once I beat the gold Koopa I moved on. I've no patience for shaving milliseconds to try and get up leaderboards.

TitianGerm

Up to 501 moons now but still haven't played the additional worlds after you rescue Peach and visit her. Kinda getting bored now though with moon hunting.

(Not sure if we can mention the names of the additional worlds?)

iamtony

emmetkenny wrote: »

Up to 501 moons now but still haven't played the additional worlds after you rescue Peach and visit her. Kinda getting bored now though with moon hunting.

(Not sure if we can mention the names of the additional worlds?)

Go play the addition worlds they are challenging.

wolfe

I have about 8000 coins and want to buy the skeleton suit for 9999.Then i saw the bowser wedding suit. Just wondering if amibos are better value.Very hard to find amibos in stock.

Molly

5 moons to go, 2 paintings, volleyball, jump rope and darker side of the moon. No idea where one painting is (keep), other painting is in Sand Kingdom around the walking Koopa but can't find it. Just got the dark side of the moon bullet bill moon (the underneath one), that was awful! The game is excellent.

Turtwig

Molly wrote: »

5 moons to go, 2 paintings, volleyball, jump rope and darker side of the moon. No idea where one painting is (keep), other painting is in Sand Kingdom around the walking Koopa but can't find it. Just got the dark side of the moon bullet bill moon (the underneath one), that was awful! The game is excellent.

Hints for paintings.

Considering it's a Mario game what world might even have the word keep?

The compass is key. Koopa is a reference point