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Keeping with the map theme
Between 1829 and 1842 the first ever large-scale survey of Ireland was done and these historical maps can be seen on the OSI website.
All over the country, surveyors marks from this survey can be found. Near us there is one of these surveyors marks carved into the bottom part of a hand hewn limestone gate post, on the road side.
This is an example of that mark.
And if it's below sea level the arrow is inverted. This is rare outdoors, but many mines go below sea level.
Originally they just used the straight line, the arrow was added later to help locate the line in areas where the line was susceptible to being rubbed off, by weather or by cattle using the stone as a rubbing post.
Almost all benchmarks had their arrows retrofitted, there are almost none left in their original condition. Although surveyors now use GPS poles as standard, they still use the benchmarks as a guidance to measure against historical data.0 -
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IvyTheTerrible wrote: »She sang in the first film in the trilogy, the 11 Oscars were for the third.
Ah, ok, that makes sense. Thanks.
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It’s a clean sweep (jump to 1:20)
(Don’t mind if I’ll take Spielberg’s word over anyone here. He’s a little bit more in the know about this stuff).
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server down wrote: »Dude. Can you stop stomping over what was a great thread.
The guy you posted defined the clean sweep as all major categories. The big 5. That was what he was talking about. Nobody gives a **** about your definition. It wasn’t relevant.
Just responding to some factually incorrect knit picking. Knew I shouldn’t have. As you were 0 -
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Unlikely ROTS(and not the first time QI got things a bit dubious, if not plain wrong). The postmen got their name from the bird, not the other way around.The Robin with its red breast had a long standing role in medieval folklore. Never mind that for most of European history since Rome their name was "Red breast" or similar, rather than "Robin". From the early medieval on many in the Church in Europe sought to find analogies within creation for biblical references, rather than going the observation and taking things from that route. Not all, mind you, especially among the learned, but for the bread and butter of ordinary folk it was very much in play. So for example the rose took on all sorts of applied metaphors, re the crown of thorns.RiderOnTheStorm wrote: »If I remember QI correctly, red-breast was a nick-name for postmen n England (royal mail red). And was later applied to robins as the robin grew in popularity on the Christmas cards (which the red-breast s delivered).
But yea, the word orange was used to describe red things before word red was used.
The Robin was thought among the common mind to have gotten its red breast because at the crucifixion it alone among creatures had taken pity on Christ and attempted to pull out the nails in his wrists and ankles*. all to no end, but in the process his blood had spattered on its breast in the attempt. They were quite the Christian symbol for a time. Especially as they're one of the very few birds in Northern Europe who sing in the winter months, even in the depths of snow so are associated with Christmas and the New Year.
Which leads us on to the more interesting thought; that before we thought in terms of "orange" the perception of the colour on a Robin was "blood red", when to our eyes it clearly isn't. Colour perception as culture.
Further on Robins... If you have a garden and tend it, you will have noted how close Robins will come to you when you're digging out weeds or whatever. A good theory on why this behaviour is in play is because Robins are woodland birds and in such environments will close follow animals like pigs, rabbits and badgers who do a lot of digging, because said digging exposes worms and other soil living titbits that they eat. So if they see a human with a spade they think "game effin on monkey boy!"
They're very tame in Ireland and the UK, but in Europe they are far more nervy and won't approach people nearly so much(a French ex GF told me that and being the cynic I am, looked it up and she wasn't kidding.). In these islands they generally stay put for life, but in Europe many migrate to Southern Europe, even North Africa for the winter.
*the actual placement of said nails in such an execution as the palms and feet would tear with the weight. One reason why so many thought the Shroud of Turin was so compelling is that alone among Christian art, it showed the correct placement of the nails, and the rope marks on the arm and blood drip angle. Actually that piece of cloth could deserve its own post. Beyond fascinating, regardless if one sees it as an icon, or a medieval fake, either way it's a "miracle".Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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Unlikely ROTS(and not the first time QI got things a bit dubious, if not plain wrong). The postmen got their name from the bird, not the other way around.The Robin with its red breast had a long standing role in medieval folklore. Never mind that for most of European history since Rome their name was "Red breast" or similar, rather than "Robin". From the early medieval on many in the Church in Europe sought to find analogies within creation for biblical references, rather than going the observation and taking things from that route. Not all, mind you, especially among the learned, but for the bread and butter of ordinary folk it was very much in play. So for example the rose took on all sorts of applied metaphors, re the crown of thorns.
The Robin was thought among the common mind to have gotten its red breast because at the crucifixion it alone among creatures had taken pity on Christ and attempted to pull out the nails in his wrists and ankles*. all to no end, but in the process his blood had spattered on its breast in the attempt. They were quite the Christian symbol for a time. Especially as they're one of the very few birds in Northern Europe who sing in the winter months, even in the depths of snow so are associated with Christmas and the New Year.
Which leads us on to the more interesting thought; that before we thought in terms of "orange" the perception of the colour on a Robin was "blood red", when to our eyes it clearly isn't. Colour perception as culture.
Further on Robins... If you have a garden and tend it, you will have noted how close Robins will come to you when you're digging out weeds or whatever. A good theory on why this behaviour is in play is because Robins are woodland birds and in such environments will close follow animals like pigs, rabbits and badgers who do a lot of digging, because said digging exposes worms and other soil living titbits that they eat. So if they see a human with a spade they think "game effin on monkey boy!" They're very tame in Ireland and the UK, but in Europe they are far more nervy and won't approach people nearly so much(a French ex GF told me that and being the cynic I am, looked it up and she wasn't kidding.). In these islands they generally stay put for life, but in Europe many migrate to Southern Europe, even North Africa for the winter.
*the actual placement of said nails in such an execution as the palms and feet would tear with the weight. One reason why so many thought the Shroud of Turin was so compelling is that alone among Christian art, it showed the correct placement of the nails, and the rope marks on the arm and blood drip angle. Actually that piece of cloth could deserve its own post. Beyond fascinating, regardless if one sees it as an icon, or a medieval fake, either way it's a "miracle".
Is it a purely Irish belief that when a robin comes into your house it’s one of your deceased loved ones looking after you? We have a pair living in the bush on our back wall and a couple of times a year one of them will come in to the house. We do feed them occasisonally though. When I mentioned it to friends they told me about the family member thing. They are very friendly and cheeky 0
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