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DEFTLEFTHAND

cdeb wrote: »

Well true. But most don't. Just said it was worth pointing out on an Irish site.

The fact that Irish surnames are so different to English ones is interesting of itself. Most are clan-based, though those with "de" in it - de Barra, de Paor, de Búrca - are Norman invaders.

I think surnames with 'Fitz' in them would also be of Norman/Viking origin.

ohnonotgmail

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I think surnames with 'Fitz' in them would also be of Norman/Viking origin.

Except Fitzpatrick.

cdeb

Ipso wrote: »

And Walsh, which is one of the top five surnames in the country.

Is Walsh not, well, Welsh?

The Irish is Breathnach, meaning a person from Wales (or thereabouts, Wales not really existing at the time in the manner we know it), and is often pronounced Welsh.

Ipso

cdeb wrote: »

Is Walsh not, well, Welsh?

The Irish is Breathnach, meaning a person from Wales (or thereabouts, Wales not really existing at the time in the manner we know it), and is often pronounced Welsh.

Yeah, it means Welsh or Briton. It would be interesting to see why it became so popular. Surely not that many Cambro Normans came over.
I think Wallace is the Scottish equivalent.

cdeb

Think I misread your post - your point was to flag Walsh as neither a clan name nor a Norman one? I thought you were adding it to the Norman list.

There's other "hanging" names as well - Bell is one I remember; it translates as Mac Ghiolla Mhaoil, son of the blind servant. Not sure who the blind servant is tbh

Esel

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Except Fitzpatrick.

How come?

ohnonotgmail

Esel wrote: »

How come?

kinda interesting. Blame Henry VIII for that. During the tudor conquest Briain Mac Giolla Phadraig was the first Irish clan chieftain to side with the british. He ended up in the House of Lords and Henry decided that his name in English should be FitzPatrick instead of MagilliPatrick or similar.

Ipso

I read it was because they wanted to come across as more upper class, and as Normans at the time were the hob nobs they adopted a Fitz to fit in.

dennyire

McGillicuddy. Irish Mac Giolamocuda or son of Devotee/ Servant of Saint Mocuda

Greybottle

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I think surnames with 'Fitz' in them would also be of Norman/Viking origin.

There was a former professional footballer called Fitz Hall, he played for Crystal Palace, QPR and Newcastle Utd amongst others.

His nickname was 'One Size'.

As in "One Size Fitz Hall", or "One size fits all". :pac:


(That's my best fact about the name Fitz.)

Capt'n Midnight

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I think surnames with 'Fitz' in them would also be of Norman/Viking origin.

Many surnames derived from something like X "son of" Y or Name "from" Parent

de Von Van Mc Mac Fitz Nee O'

Working class heroes

What do you call two Irish Gays?

Michael Fitzpatrick and Patrick Fitzmichael.

Please don’t hate me!

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

The longest surname used was Hubert Blaine Wolfe­schlegel­stein­hausen­berger­dorff Sr. ( or Hubert B. Wolfe + 666), but this is the abbreviated version. He had 26 Christian name s, alphabetically from A to Z and his 666 letter full surname was
Wolfe­schlegel­stein­hausen­berger­dorff­welche­vor­altern­waren­gewissen­haft­schafers­wessen­schafe­waren­wohl­gepflege­und­sorg­faltig­keit­be­schutzen­vor­an­greifen­durch­ihr­raub­gierig­feinde­welche­vor­altern­zwolf­hundert­tausend­jah­res­voran­die­er­scheinen­von­der­erste­erde­mensch­der­raum­schiff­genacht­mit­tung­stein­und­sieben­iridium­elek­trisch­motors­ge­brauch­licht­als­sein­ur­sprung­von­kraft­ge­start­sein­lange­fahrt­hin­zwischen­stern­artig­raum­auf­der­suchen­nach­bar­schaft­der­stern­welche­ge­habt­be­wohn­bar­planeten­kreise­drehen­sich­und­wo­hin­der­neue­rasse­von­ver­stand­ig­mensch­lich­keit­konnte­fort­pflanzen­und­sicher­freuen­an­lebens­lang­lich­freude­und­ru­he­mit­nicht­ein­furcht­vor­an­greifen­vor­anderer­intelligent­ge­schopfs­von­hin­zwischen­stern­art­ig­raum

DJIMI TRARORE

Anders Shy Aircraft wrote: »

The longest surname used was Hubert Blaine Wolfe­schlegel­stein­hausen­berger­dorff Sr. ( or Hubert B. Wolfe + 666), but this is the abbreviated version. He had 26 Christian name s, alphabetically from A to Z and his 666 letter full surname was
Wolfe­schlegel­stein­hausen­berger­dorff­welche­vor­altern­waren­gewissen­haft­schafers­wessen­schafe­waren­wohl­gepflege­und­sorg­faltig­keit­be­schutzen­vor­an­greifen­durch­ihr­raub­gierig­feinde­welche­vor­altern­zwolf­hundert­tausend­jah­res­voran­die­er­scheinen­von­der­erste­erde­mensch­der­raum­schiff­genacht­mit­tung­stein­und­sieben­iridium­elek­trisch­motors­ge­brauch­licht­als­sein­ur­sprung­von­kraft­ge­start­sein­lange­fahrt­hin­zwischen­stern­artig­raum­auf­der­suchen­nach­bar­schaft­der­stern­welche­ge­habt­be­wohn­bar­planeten­kreise­drehen­sich­und­wo­hin­der­neue­rasse­von­ver­stand­ig­mensch­lich­keit­konnte­fort­pflanzen­und­sicher­freuen­an­lebens­lang­lich­freude­und­ru­he­mit­nicht­ein­furcht­vor­an­greifen­vor­anderer­intelligent­ge­schopfs­von­hin­zwischen­stern­art­ig­raum

Imagine he was a pro footballer and u wanted his name on ur jersey:). the season wud be over b4 it was finished

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »

Imagine he was a pro footballer and u wanted his name on ur jersey:). the season wud be over b4 it was finished

As it turns out, he was a typesetter.

New Home

I can only imagine him in primary school, attempting to write his full first name for the first time. The poor child...

Franz Von Peppercorn

New Home wrote: »

I can only imagine him in primary school, attempting to write his full first name for the first time. The poor child...

Didn’t have it as bad as a school friend of mine, surnamed Darling. In a school where we were always called by our second name by teachers.

Capt'n Midnight

I've heard of an old Welshman who had one remaining front tooth.

He was of course nicknamed Dai Central Eating.

david75

Just on the Chernobyl thing, media was aghast as the radiation cloud floating our way at the time (I think it still is? Anyone able to clarify?) and it raining on us and making its way into the milk and food Chain.
Anyways.
Everyone born late 86-early 88 are all totally mental and have mad big lumpy heads and are totally psychotic. And have unusually big eyebrows.

Before you scoff look around at who you know born in this period.

It’s a fact.

Greybottle

The exclusion zone around Chernobyl is about the same size as Co Cork. It has a population of a few hundred, mostly people who returned in the 5 years after the evacuation as they were unhappy with their new homes. The authorities did little or nothing to stop them.

The trinity bomb was the first atomic bomb ever detonated, It was the test bomb for the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and was dropped on June 16th 1945, 5 days ahead of schedule as President Truman wanted it detonated before the Potsdam Conference started to improve his hand against the USSR.

The cloud reached 12.7 KM, partially due to vortex's caused by the heat of the New Mexico desert. To give an idea of scale, if the bomb had been dropped in Athlone it would have been visible from any part of Ireland that was not hidden behind a mountain, such as Dublin or Galway.

cdeb

There's 4000 living there now. Includes some of the people still working in the power plant.

The new sarcophagus put on it in 2016 is the largest moving man-made item ever. It weighs 32000 tonnes

Skylinehead

cdeb wrote: »

There's 4000 living there now. Includes some of the people still working in the power plant.

The new sarcophagus put on it in 2016 is the largest moving man-made item ever. It weighs 32000 tonnes

ISS is bigger

EDIT not even close.

Evade

Skylinehead wrote: »

ISS is bigger

Or an aircraft carrier. Is there some specific definition that rules them out?

Quazzie

Skylinehead wrote: »

ISS is bigger

ISS only weighs 440 Tonne tho, so it depends what the defining unit in 'biggest' is.

Skylinehead

Quazzie wrote: »

ISS only weighs 440 Tonne tho, so it depends what the defining unit in 'biggest' is.

Woops I'm completely wrong then. I think I read it as 440,000 tonnes, not kg.

By tonnage (including cargo) it would be Seawise Giant - 600,000 tonnes.

New Home

david75 wrote: »

Just on the Chernobyl thing, media was aghast as the radiation cloud floating our way at the time (I think it still is? Anyone able to clarify?) and it raining on us and making its way into the milk and food Chain.
Anyways.
Everyone born late 86-early 88 are all totally mental and have mad big lumpy heads and are totally psychotic. And have unusually big eyebrows.

Before you scoff look around at who you know born in this period.

It’s a fact.

Since Chernobyl there's been a huge increase in the incidence of thyroid conditions, including cancer. I don't know if it's true, but at the time we were told that radiation "sinks" into the ground approximately 5 cm every year, but that since ploughing turns the soil by more than that, radiations on tilled fields would stay near the top and get absorbed by the plants. I also remember people being told not to pick mushrooms 'cause for some reason they seemed to act as sponges and absorbed more radiations than other plants.

stimpson

Skylinehead wrote: »

Woops I'm completely wrong then. I think I read it as 440,000 tonnes, not kg.

By tonnage (including cargo) it would be Seawise Giant - 600,000 tonnes.

Seaside Giant was scrapped in 2010. May she rest in peace.

Edit: Autocorrect. I’m not changing it.

Squall Leonhart

stimpson wrote: »

Seaside Giant was scrapped in 2010. May she rust in peace

FYP :P

sbsquarepants

I've been reading a bit about this seaside giant (I prefer that name, I'm keeping it too:D) It had quite an exciting life for a oil tanker, even being sank by Saddam Husseins forces only to be then refloated and put back to work!

It went through several name changes (bad luck I thought?) here is an illustration for scale when it was known as the Jahre Viking

Skylinehead

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I've been reading a bit about this seaside giant (I prefer that name, I'm keeping it too:D) It had quite an exciting life for a oil tanker, even being sank by Saddam Husseins forces only to be then refloated and put back to work!

It went through several name changes (bad luck I thought?) here is an illustration for scale when it was known as the Jahre Viking

Ah don't get me started on Typhoons (from the picture), we'll be here for hours!