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Candie

Candie wrote: »

We should try leaving pigs at a high altitude, maybe they can learn how to fly.

I don't think we can take that chance, they're too smart.

somefeen

mzungu wrote: »

Big Major Cay is an uninhabited island in the Bahamas populated by swimming pigs, aptly nicknamed Pig Beach by locals. Nobody knows for sure how the feral pigs got there, but some theories suggest they swam ashore after a shipwreck and others posit that they were left there by sailors that either intended to pass by again but never did, or just wished to dump them there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvgKw1bXfqE

Does the Bay of Pigs have anything to do with that?

mzungu

somefeen wrote: »

Does the Bay of Pigs have anything to do with that?

You could be right there as it has been suggested that the Spanish may have left a few behind. Interestingly, while we may call it the Bay of Pigs (in Spanish it is Bahía de Cochinos which is a sound translation) there might be another explanation. In Cuban Spanish, cochinos can also mean queen triggerfish (and they do inhabit the coral reefs around the Bay of Pigs) so it could possibly be the case that over the years things got confused between the two and the Bay of Pigs name stuck. I would like to know for certain but can't seem to get anything concrete. Do we take the Spanish or Cuban translation for el cochinos, the real name of the Bay of Pigs could be the Bay of Queen Triggerfish.

The Bay of Queen Triggerfish invasion versus the Bay of Pigs invasion. What sounds cooler?

Maybe time to start an online campaign to get the name changed! :pac:

pleas advice

Balistes vetula, the queen triggerfish or old wife, is a reef dwelling triggerfish found in the Atlantic Ocean. It is occasionally caught as a gamefish, and sometimes kept in very large marine aquaria.

The queen triggerfish reaches 60 cm (24 in), though most only are about half that length. It is typically blue, purple, turquoise and green with a yellowish throat, and light blue lines on the fins and head. It can change colour somewhat to match its surroundings, or if subjected to stress.






Could have been The Invasion of Old Wife's Bay either...

Fourier

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

^^^^
The graphics for the black hole was sooooo scientific, like a Windows 95 screensaver :rolleyes:

I'm not the most knowledgeable regarding graphics, but I had a look at the black hole scene there, what's wrong with it?

EDIT: Okay I just watched the scene with the hole's interior, That's fairly daft! The outside the horizon bits looked okay to me.

Graces7

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't think we can take that chance, they're too smart.

"Beware low-flying pigs! " has a certain cachet to it..

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Candie wrote: »

We should try leaving pigs at a high altitude, maybe they can learn how to fly.

Well, give a pig enough time, say an eon, and it becomes pig eon - pigeon.

New Home

That's facepalm-gif-worthy, Srameen. Chapeau!

Anders Shy Aircraft

Anders Shy Aircraft wrote: »

Well, give a pig enough time, say an eon, and it becomes pig eon - pigeon.

Ouch! It's a grandfather amongst Dad jokes!

Capt'n Midnight

Anders Shy Aircraft wrote: »

Well, give a pig enough time, .

https://www.garda.ie/en/About-Us/Specialist-Units/Operational-Support-Services/The-Garda-Air-Support-Unit/ :pac:


250 million years ago pigs ruled the world. Lystrosaurus species dominated the landscape almost everywhere. In places they make up 95% of the fossils.

Imagine a farm where all the foxes and badgers and birds and rats and bats and rabbits and hedgehogs and other wild animals only made up a twentith of the number of animals. Well it'd be something like that.

Chancer3001

ive swam with triggerfish before.

apparently they are a scuba divers nightmare. If you encroach their area and "trigger" their temper, they dart and you and can do some serious damage

Ipso

Speaking of places named after animals, the Canary Islands are named after dogs (supposedly there were large packs of wild dogs on it back in the day) and not Canaries.

New Home

DivingDuck

^ I also didn't know my eyes get get quite this wide. :eek:

Holy hell.

How?! Where is it tethered?!

Franz Von Peppercorn

Fourier wrote: »

I'm not the most knowledgeable regarding graphics, but I had a look at the black hole scene there, what's wrong with it?

EDIT: Okay I just watched the scene with the hole's interior, That's fairly daft! The outside the horizon bits looked okay to me.

They actually hired astrophysicists for the movie. Kip Thorne, a physicist and adviser on the movie, wrote a book about what in the movie was scientifically accurate and what was not.

They did make the black hole a bit more visually “impressive”.

This link discusses the physics and shows the difference between what the movie showed as a black hole and the more accurate (but less theatrical) original images the scientists came up with. I think the more realistic images are more impressive myself.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-truth-behind-interstellars-scientifically-accurate-1686120318

Fourier

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

They actually hired astrophysicists for the movie. Kip Thorne, a physicist and adviser on the movie, wrote a book about what in the movie was scientifically accurate and what was not.

Class, thanks Franz!

Those simulations go way beyond what you can do by hand. Like most in my area, I've only done very simple black hole calculations by hand (perfect sphere in a void), just shows that with all the theoretical knowledge I had no accurate idea about what they looked like. I'd say few physicists do, unless you work in Numerical relativity.

Kip Thorne, along with Charles Misner and John Wheeler wrote the biggest textbook on relativity, "Gravitation", the typical joke being it's so large and dense it has its own gravitational field. Great diagrams in it, I must post a few.

I'd recommend Kip Thorne's "Black holes and Time Warps" to anyone. One of the few popular books that contains no real innacuracies and it has a great explanation of time dilation using distances between islands.

I'm going to try and explain something called interference over the long weekend using highly professional MS paint graphics.

New Home

I read that as Rip Torn, and I was thinking I'd always underestimated him! :rolleyes:

StupidLikeAFox

In the 1920s laws were passed in England to strengthen laws around sexual crime. The government at the time commissioned the Carrigan report, which was to investigate what the story was in Ireland. The report found that sexual crime was on the increase, particularly with underage children. These crimes were significantly under reported (less than 15%) so as not to bring shame on the families etc. The garda commissioner reported that 6,000 children were sexually abused in the 3 years between 1927 and 1930.

Direct quote:

That there was an alarming amount of sexual crime increasing yearly, a feature of which was the large number of cases of criminal interference with girls and children from 16 years downwards, including many cases of children under 10 years;

The government of the day under WT Cosgrave decided to suppress the report because it would not reflect the morally superior country which he wanted Ireland to be known as. When it was circulated to politicians on December 2nd 1931 the Department of Justice attached a cover note arguing against publication because ‘it might not be wise to give currency to the damaging allegations made in Carrigan regarding the standard of morality in the country”. When fianna fail came to power, the justice Dept of the day also ignored the findings and buried the report. The report is also severely critical of the dancehalls of the time, which was a bugbear of the church) and recommended the dancehall licensing system so that dancehalls could only be operated by "respectable people". Probably worthy of a separate post, but in the 30s an Irish man, born in Ireland, was deported for running a danchall after a long running battle with the local church and authorities

Bear in mind that around this time:

• Women who became pregnant outside marriage were criminalised
• In the 30s the constitution enshrined the womans place in the home.
• Women were banned from progressing past a certain grade in the Civil service
• A marraige ban was brought in so if a woman married she had to leave the civil service (this was present in banks also afaik)
• An attempt was made to ban women from jury duty

We were a brand new, independent country but evidently as oppressive as ever. We were really being led by the Catholic church - Cosgrave was reported to have favoured a full on theocracy. This was a full 20 odd years after Constance Markeviecz was elected to the dail. It's hard to imagine what the women of Ireland who fought for independence and a hopes of a better life must have thought of this new country.

I just read about this today. I always wondered how things like the Magdalene Laundries were allowed happen and associated them with the 50s/60s/70s in my mind, but it looks like the groundwork was put in place years in advance. All this crap laid a groundwork for the culture of silence which permeated society for years after and I would guess is only properly being exposed now, almost 100 years later.

Here are some links for further reading:
Very good article (from a very good podcast) which mentions the report:
https://irishhistorypodcast.ie/torture-murder-and-exclusion-irelands-first-10-years-of-independence/

Opinion piece:
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/an-irishman-s-diary-1.268515

Here is the report itself:
http://the-knitter.blogspot.com/2005/06/full-carrigan-report_24.html

ClickRbait

Penguins don't have knees.

BaZmO*

Haha. The juxtaposition of the last two posts made me chuckle. From a serious think piece on social history in Ireland, to a little factoid on penguins!

I suppose that’s what makes this thread so good.

cdeb

And alas, it appears penguins do have knees...

blinding

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

In the 1920s laws were passed in England to strengthen laws around sexual crime. The government at the time commissioned the Carrigan report, which was to investigate what the story was in Ireland. The report found that sexual crime was on the increase, particularly with underage children. These crimes were significantly under reported (less than 15%) so as not to bring shame on the families etc. The garda commissioner reported that 6,000 children were sexually abused in the 3 years between 1927 and 1930.

Direct quote:


The government of the day under WT Cosgrave decided to suppress the report because it would not reflect the morally superior country which he wanted Ireland to be known as. When it was circulated to politicians on December 2nd 1931 the Department of Justice attached a cover note arguing against publication because ‘it might not be wise to give currency to the damaging allegations made in Carrigan regarding the standard of morality in the country”. When fianna fail came to power, the justice Dept of the day also ignored the findings and buried the report. The report is also severely critical of the dancehalls of the time, which was a bugbear of the church) and recommended the dancehall licensing system so that dancehalls could only be operated by "respectable people". Probably worthy of a separate post, but in the 30s an Irish man, born in Ireland, was deported for running a danchall after a long running battle with the local church and authorities

Bear in mind that around this time:

• Women who became pregnant outside marriage were criminalised
• In the 30s the constitution enshrined the womans place in the home.
• Women were banned from progressing past a certain grade in the Civil service
• A marraige ban was brought in so if a woman married she had to leave the civil service (this was present in banks also afaik)
• An attempt was made to ban women from jury duty

We were a brand new, independent country but evidently as oppressive as ever. We were really being led by the Catholic church - Cosgrave was reported to have favoured a full on theocracy. This was a full 20 odd years after Constance Markeviecz was elected to the dail. It's hard to imagine what the women of Ireland who fought for independence and a hopes of a better life must have thought of this new country.

I just read about this today. I always wondered how things like the Magdalene Laundries were allowed happen and associated them with the 50s/60s/70s in my mind, but it looks like the groundwork was put in place years in advance. All this crap laid a groundwork for the culture of silence which permeated society for years after and I would guess is only properly being exposed now, almost 100 years later.

Here are some links for further reading:
Very good article (from a very good podcast) which mentions the report:
https://irishhistorypodcast.ie/torture-murder-and-exclusion-irelands-first-10-years-of-independence/

Opinion piece:
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/an-irishman-s-diary-1.268515

Here is the report itself:
http://the-knitter.blogspot.com/2005/06/full-carrigan-report_24.html

Apparently a lot of the Irish Women involved in the struggle for partial Independence from 1916 to1922 were far too radical for the Irish powers that took over and they were sidelined as much as possible .

Ipso

Is it true that tampons were inly decriminalised in the 70’s?

The Pheasant2

cdeb wrote: »

And alas, it appears penguins do have knees...

Confirmed as a factoid so

The folic acid in bread thread reminded me of this.

Heart disease and strokes are a leading cause of death and it's been established that certain B vitamins have a beneficial effect in both prevention and treatment of cardiovascular diseases.

Vitamin B9 is better known as folic acid, and studies have shown it's inhibiting effect with both heart disease and with colon cancer. It's also important for a myriad of other reasons, being essential to the production of blood cells and general cell repair and renewal. The work of folic acid is supported by other B vitamins, especially B6 and B12, also important in their own right.

Two major symptoms of heart disease are high cholesterol levels and high levels of an amino acid called homocysteine. Hight levels of homocysteine leads to a loss of elasticity in the arterial walls (hardening of the arteries/arteriosclerosis), a leading cause of strokes, vascular disease and heart attacks. Folic acid has been shown to reduce thickening of the arteries and reduces risk of cardiovascular disease, and Chinese studies have shown that daily supplementation reduces the risk of stroke by an average of 12%. Homocysteine levels were reduced by 25% after 16 months, making it an important tool in the prevention of heart disease.

Dietary sources of folic acid (and other B vitamins needed to support it's function) are green leafy vegetables, but poor bioavailability means that supplementation is the preferred way of getting the recommended 5mg daily.

Franz Von Peppercorn

StupidLikeAFox’s post is interesting - that report blamed an increase in immorality on “dance halls”. It’s worth watching Jimmy’s hall by ken loach (a companion to the wind that shakes the barley) about that very subject. A man was deported for running a dance hall at the time. It’s importaht to realise though that Ireland was an outlier in Christian conservatism in Western Europe but not as much as you might think, the British chemically castrated tens of thousands of gay men in the same era.

The wind that shakes the barley was pretty good at showing the difference between the conservative and socialist elements in the war of independence.

Franz Von Peppercorn

One thing I didn’t know until recently is that dead grass isn’t necessarily dead. The grass in my lawn turned green recently. It’s the same grass!

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

One thing I didn’t know until recently is that dead grass isn’t necessarily dead. The grass in my lawn turned green recently. It’s the same grass!

The leaves are burned but the roots, if enough moisture remains, are alive.

Grasses evolved to grow at the base instead of the tips, unlike most plants. This allows them to be grazed or burned damage to their growing points and allows them to regrow quickly.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Anders Shy Aircraft wrote: »

The leaves are burned but the roots, if enough moisture remains, are alive.

Grasses evolved to grow at the base instead of the tips, unlike most plants. This allows them to be grazed or burned damage to their growing points and allows them to regrow quickly.

Do they regrow? Looked to me like the same grass turned green within a few days at the same length. It hardly had time to regrow.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Do they regrow? Looked to me like the same grass turned green within a few days at the same length. It hardly had time to regrow.

It's regrown. Grass grows very quickly in the right conditions. I've cut mine twice since last Tuesday.
Brown leaves don't grow again and the chlorophyll is gone from them for good.