The Jimbo Slice memorial thread, feat Nate Dogg - The new Off Topic thread

Ohhh so they're for possibly helping and not knee pain. Interesting!
Well wear!!

I wonder if I collect the whole SBD set if I'll get a +5 bonus to Strength

Alf Veedersane

bluewolf wrote: »

Ohhh so they're for possibly helping and not knee pain. Interesting!
Well wear!!

I wonder if I collect the whole SBD set if I'll get a +5 bonus to Strength

I'm sure people use them to feel a bit of support where they have had knee injuries.

There's a logic to thinking you would get a little pop out of the hole if you have a tighter pair on.

laserlad2010

Transform wrote: »

yes around the same time and as crossfit exploded.

Lower cost of entry and someone to lead the classes.

Im now working with more one to one clients than ever because they dont mind paying for the best advice for them.

It's actually quite interesting. I'm a gym fanatic and even I have to slap myself upside the head when I question the prices of places like Revfit. If someone were to say to me - "Sean, give me 150 a month and put in the work, you'll get the strength and body you want" I'd have the wallet out before they stopped speaking.

Its when you cant see the wood for the trees, focussing on squat day after squat day that you try to fool yourself that you can do it alone. I know some can, but I just can't :mad::mad:. I think more and more people are coming to appreciate the value of a great personal trainer, especially (in my case anyway) after being burned by someone who looks good and lifts big but can't/won't teach.

Nervous Wreck

laserlad2010 wrote: »

It's actually quite interesting. I'm a gym fanatic and even I have to slap myself upside the head when I question the prices of places like Revfit. If someone were to say to me - "Sean, give me 150 a month and put in the work, you'll get the strength and body you want" I'd have the wallet out before they stopped speaking.

Its when you cant see the wood for the trees, focussing on squat day after squat day that you try to fool yourself that you can do it alone. I know some can, but I just can't :mad::mad:. I think more and more people are coming to appreciate the value of a great personal trainer, especially (in my case anyway) after being burned by someone who looks good and lifts big but can't/won't teach.

Sounds like you need a new gym..!

Transform

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Interesting! Have you experienced more business from people moving away from the likes of crossfit? Kinda feels like that craze is, if not over, certainly less ubiquitous in the last few months/year...

yes, about 50% of the people on my online program have done some form of programmed group training before joining.

Big group training is bigger within the 20-35yr old demographic but as people have a little more finances available to them they're going for one to one or another option is semi private training which is is very small groups of 2-5 people.

Ive spoken to other coaches I admire about this topic (christian T, Max el Haj etc) and they've noticed the same trend and like myself far far prefer dealing with people in small groups or one to one as its easier to build trust, elicit change and encourage consistency (note i never once said - get gainz, crush workouts or call my clients athletes).

Overall, the fitness industry continually sells the suggestion that -

A) your coach is highly experienced, when often they're not and their experience extends to training themselves which they typically do poorly or in a very myopic way e.g. bodybuilding etc. Soon the word "online" coach will be a trigger for utter lack of ANY form of practical experience unless the coach was well know in the industry for years.

The coach is more motivated and healthier than you are. They're very often far more dysfunctional about their body than you are, know the calories in everything an the taste of nothing and want attention on their social media NEVER ever for the likes, that's far too small a goal, they want your support in furthering their neuroses. They want the white knight to tell them they're amazing in the exchange of a booty or b00b flash, they want to #throwbacksunday to a time they were completely miserable to be in that shape, they're apologetic about not being in good enough shape when they look fab and it all looks like a cocktail of pity porn and an exercise in self serving brand me.

C) they're successful - without getting into a discussion on what is success, Id say Im happy owning our own home and i see more people leaving the fitness industry when its gets really real. I co-own a gym with my brother and constantly have to keep our fingers on the pulse but we stand for something and are principled in how we approach this thing we call fitness. Does that set us apart, I dont know or care but we look like we might know what we're talking about and are congruent.

It only took twenty years to become an overnight success.

So I encourage everyone and anyone to enter into this field of fitness because they want to help others but please understand its fine to keep it as a hobby but its only when you treat it like a business that you can actually help more people and possibly make a living.

The fitness customer is getting smarter and more savvy about how and where to spend their money, the market, the market, the market.

Hope that comes across ok and this felt like doing morning pages, lol

Alf Veedersane

Transform wrote: »

The coach is more motivated and healthier than you are. They're very often far more dysfunctional about their body than you are, know the calories in everything an the taste of nothing and want attention on their social media NEVER ever for the likes, that's far too small a goal, they want your support in furthering their neuroses. They want the white knight to tell them they're amazing in the exchange of a booty or b00b flash, they want to #throwbacksunday to a time they were completely miserable to be in that shape, they're apologetic about not being in good enough shape when they look fab and it all looks like a cocktail of pity porn and an exercise in self serving brand me.

I see you've introduced Nail and Head.

The IG shots on holidays saying they're looking fluffy but can't wait to get home from holidays and training....screams "please tell me I look in great shape".

deadlybuzzman

Transform wrote: »

yes, about 50% of the people on my online program have done some form of programmed group training before joining.

Big group training is bigger within the 20-35yr old demographic but as people have a little more finances available to them they're going for one to one or another option is semi private training which is is very small groups of 2-5 people.

Ive spoken to other coaches I admire about this topic (christian T, Max el Haj etc) and they've noticed the same trend and like myself far far prefer dealing with people in small groups or one to one as its easier to build trust, elicit change and encourage consistency (note i never once said - get gainz, crush workouts or call my clients athletes).

Overall, the fitness industry continually sells the suggestion that -

A) your coach is highly experienced, when often they're not and their experience extends to training themselves which they typically do poorly or in a very myopic way e.g. bodybuilding etc. Soon the word "online" coach will be a trigger for utter lack of ANY form of practical experience unless the coach was well know in the industry for years.

The coach is more motivated and healthier than you are. They're very often far more dysfunctional about their body than you are, know the calories in everything an the taste of nothing and want attention on their social media NEVER ever for the likes, that's far too small a goal, they want your support in furthering their neuroses. They want the white knight to tell them they're amazing in the exchange of a booty or b00b flash, they want to #throwbacksunday to a time they were completely miserable to be in that shape, they're apologetic about not being in good enough shape when they look fab and it all looks like a cocktail of pity porn and an exercise in self serving brand me.

C) they're successful - without getting into a discussion on what is success, Id say Im happy owning our own home and i see more people leaving the fitness industry when its gets really real. I co-own a gym with my brother and constantly have to keep our fingers on the pulse but we stand for something and are principled in how we approach this thing we call fitness. Does that set us apart, I dont know or care but we look like we might know what we're talking about and are congruent.

It only took twenty years to become an overnight success.

So I encourage everyone and anyone to enter into this field of fitness because they want to help others but please understand its fine to keep it as a hobby but its only when you treat it like a business that you can actually help more people and possibly make a living.

The fitness customer is getting smarter and more savvy about how and where to spend their money, the market, the market, the market.

Hope that comes across ok and this felt like doing morning pages, lol

I enjoyed reading this more than any online fitness article I've read in God knows how long.
I'll be quoting the crap out of the calories in everything and the taste of nothing line too!

Nervous Wreck

deadlybuzzman wrote: »

I enjoyed reading this more than any online fitness article I've read in God knows how long.
I'll be quoting the crap out of the calories in everything and the taste of nothing line too!

Agreed, great post!

If I've learned anything about fitness in the last 6 years of lifting, it's the value of my time and money. I do semi-private training now so every time I train, it's me, my coach and 2-3 other people. Another thing I've only really come to learn more recently is that, while its loads of fun having abs, it's okay to have some damn cake and enjoy life too. I chased one over the other for way too long. So glad to be able to relax and have a little of both now. Maybe that comes with the wisdom of age, I dunno.

Transform

deadlybuzzman wrote: »

I enjoyed reading this more than any online fitness article I've read in God knows how long.
I'll be quoting the crap out of the calories in everything and the taste of nothing line too!

cheers and you can thank my wife for that as thats where i got it from, shes far smarter than I

Alf Veedersane

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Agreed, great post!

If I've learned anything about fitness in the last 6 years of lifting, it's the value of my time and money. I do semi-private training now so every time I train, it's me, my coach and 2-3 other people. Another thing I've only really come to learn more recently is that, while its loads of fun having abs, it's okay to have some damn cake and enjoy life too. I chased one over the other for way too long. So glad to be able to relax and have a little of both now. Maybe that comes with the wisdom of age, I dunno.

Def think age has a part in it. What's important becomes clearer, time becomes increasingly more valuable and the value of investing in what's important becomes more obvious.

Transform

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Agreed, great post!

If I've learned anything about fitness in the last 6 years of lifting, it's the value of my time and money. I do semi-private training now so every time I train, it's me, my coach and 2-3 other people. Another thing I've only really come to learn more recently is that, while its loads of fun having abs, it's okay to have some damn cake and enjoy life too. I chased one over the other for way too long. So glad to be able to relax and have a little of both now. Maybe that comes with the wisdom of age, I dunno.

great to hear that and yes defo have the cake, just doesnt have to be excessive amounts.

However, note the increase in the past few months of fitness folk eating dirty i.e. posting about all the junk food they eat, as if to wave it in your face saying "i can eat ALL this junk and still be in good shape", highly irresponsible IMO when its continual. Oh and they're soooooooo busy yet have time enough to pop out for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

These are the same people that will drive 30-60mins to walk for 10mins just so they can get a pic of them being in nature #atonewithnature

Nervous Wreck

Tbh, I don't follow anyone like that on social media because the fakeness of it is so obvious. I've come across that once or twice in passing though and it's very irritating to see that kind of shít being spun by people who profess to be helping people achieve their weightloss goals etc. Irresponsible, as you say.

Transform

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Def think age has a part in it. What's important becomes clearer, time becomes increasingly more valuable and the value of investing in what's important becomes more obvious.

Youd imagine yet i often see people in their mid 30's to early 40s that filp flop between training groups all the time which tend to be populated with those in their late teens and twenties so they can maintain their over trained and under recovered behaviour "ive still got it".

Not hard to find when 99% of coaches have high intensity training as a core message - just look at how people describe their workouts.

Again, I couldnt give a fig what other coaches do, its just a pity.

Alf Veedersane

Transform wrote: »

great to hear that and yes defo have the cake, just doesnt have to be excessive amounts.

That reminds me of the Sigma Nutrition podcast with Brian Wansink and people at buffets. The people that struggled with weight were the people that went to every tray and picked something up. Just mindlessly wandered into the food fog and came out with a mahoosive plate. The ones who tended to do better, stood back, surveyed what was available and chose a couple of bits in keeping with their appetite.

In short, have some cake. It's nice. You just don't need to eat it all to enjoy it.

I kinda want some fresh black forest gateau now.

Transform wrote: »

However, note the increase in the past few months of fitness folk eating dirty i.e. posting about all the junk food they eat, as if to wave it in your face saying "i can eat ALL this junk and still be in good shape", highly irresponsible IMO when its continual. Oh and they're soooooooo busy yet have time enough to pop out for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

They're also the people that spend a week in a big deficit, training twice a day so they could take that selfie.

Alf Veedersane

Transform wrote: »

Youd imagine yet i often see people in their mid 30's to early 40s that filp flop between training groups all the time which tend to be populated with those in their late teens and twenties so they can maintain their over trained and under recovered behaviour "ive still got it".

Not hard to find when 99% of coaches have high intensity training as a core message - just look at how people describe their workouts.

Again, I couldnt give a fig what other coaches do, its just a pity.

Agreed. It's not that I think people 'get it' once they hit 30 or whatever. And maybe it's just my n=1 view, but if they're ever going to get it, it's more likely to be as they get a bit older and life becomes a bit clearer.

Transform

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Agreed. It's not that I think people 'get it' once they hit 30 or whatever. And maybe it's just my n=1 view, but if they're ever going to get it, it's more likely to be as they get a bit older and life becomes a bit clearer.

100% and life experiences then to teach that

MightyMandarin

bluewolf wrote: »

Do you usually use knee sleeves? Do your knees hurt? Is that what they're for?

I usually get 5-10 extra KG's from using them with squats, which is the only reason why I use them.

Sore knees still feel sore with them on.

will56

MightyMandarin wrote: »

I usually get 5-10 extra KG's from using them with squats, which is the only reason why I use them.

Sore knees still feel sore with them on.

5-10kgs ? Really ?
Been considering trying them out, if I could get that much extra I'll def be getting a pair

dastardly00

This is seriously tasty!

Blacktie.

dastardly00 wrote: »

This is seriously tasty!

Ha took a while for someone to rip off Wyldssons idea. Wonder if they ripped it off someone else actually.

MightyMandarin

will56 wrote: »

5-10kgs ? Really ?
Been considering trying them out, if I could get that much extra I'll def be getting a pair

Don't underestimate the added stretch reflex. The one's I use are just off-brand rehband-style sleeves I got from aliexpress for €20. From what I've been told, SBD's have even more spring to add.

Alf Veedersane

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Don't underestimate the added stretch reflex. The one's I use are just off-brand rehband-style sleeves I got from aliexpress for €20. From what I've been told, SBD's have even more spring to add.

There's a bigger range of sizes in SBDs so you're more likely to be able to get a size that's a bit tighter. They're also a bit longer, which might help.

Mellor

The more I hear people talk about fitfam on Instagram, the less sure I am that I'm using IG correctly, or if I even belong on there

allym

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

There's a bigger range of sizes in SBDs so you're more likely to be able to get a size that's a bit tighter. They're also a bit longer, which might help.

And putting them on is a warm up in and of itself!

Mellor

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Then there's the use of 'fam'.

I have no idea what it's supposed to be but it makes me go a bit

Yeah, I don't really get it either. I guess it's short for family.
I kept hearing it here, especially #IrishFitFam. I typed the tag into IG one day and from memory it was mostly girls, dogs, and ice cream.

Man i am seriously eating everything since Sunday

Alf Veedersane

bluewolf wrote: »

Man i am seriously eating everything since Sunday

Had a proper appetite on me on Sunday and Monday.

Not so much on Saturday, strangely.

dastardly00

Blacktie. wrote: »

Ha took a while for someone to rip off Wyldssons idea. Wonder if they ripped it off someone else actually.

Wyldssons spread has roasted hazelnuts (30%), dates, roasted sunflower seeds, roasted cashew nuts, and cocoa (3%).

The Bulk Powders one is a lot simpler with just roasted hazelnuts and chocolate.

whippet

will56 wrote: »

5-10kgs ? Really ?
Been considering trying them out, if I could get that much extra I'll def be getting a pair

I would get 20kg extra from wraps .. but it isn't just a case of getting a pair and lashing them on and seeing a 20kg PB ... it changes the dynamic of the lift .. and makes it much harder to get depth !!! You have to push in to the wrap on the way down - we'll only if they are wrapped tight enough

Alf Veedersane

whippet wrote: »

I would get 20kg extra from wraps .. but it isn't just a case of getting a pair and lashing them on and seeing a 20kg PB ... it changes the dynamic of the lift .. and makes it much harder to get depth !!! You have to push in to the wrap on the way down - we'll only if they are wrapped tight enough

He meant knee sleeves giving 5-10kg.