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The Jimbo Slice memorial thread, feat Nate Dogg - The new Off Topic thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,628 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Anyone ever had a problem with their gluteus medius. How did you work on it? What lifts help?

    Clam shell and hip abduction. You can do those at home. Involve resistance bands when needed


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,525 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    Do you have private health insurance? You may be able to claim back some of the cost of a physio depending on your policy.

    Or if you don't, you can claim tax relief at 20%.


  • Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭LincolnHawk


    Do you have private health insurance? You may be able to claim back some of the cost of a physio depending on your policy.

    Or if you don't, you can claim tax relief at 20%.
    Yeah and if you do you can still claim 20% of the difference between the cost and what your insurance covered


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    At a checkup early this year, physio told my my medius was underdeveloped and told me to do bodyweight single leg deadlifts every day. Basically touch my left foot with my right hand and vice versa. I have no idea if it did anything or not.

    Fast forward to the last 2 months and I switched from conv to sumo for deadlifts and have changed my squat stance to be wider than before. My glutes are in a near constant state of DOMS so something is being put to work that wasn't before.

    Thanks, last night I did sumos, single leg kettlebell deadlifts, and used the hip machine. It seems to be a bit better. I only go to the gym three times a week so I hope that is enough to sort out the aching.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Is it worth paying for a weightlifting membership initially to learn the movements (snatch/c&j) ?

    Having a look around Sandyford and there's Crossfit Ireland for 150/month.
    Half considering doing it for a month to get an idea of where to start and get the basics.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 355 ✭✭BadBannana


    Caliden wrote: »
    Is it worth paying for a weightlifting membership initially to learn the movements (snatch/c&j) ?

    Having a look around Sandyford and there's Crossfit Ireland for 150/month.
    Half considering doing it for a month to get an idea of where to start and get the basics.

    Call them up and make it extremely clear that you only want to learn the classic lifts. Don't do what I did and sign up to one of these things and spend ages doing burpees and box jumps.

    Also, does anyone here own a home gym? What were the initial start up costs and do you think it was worthwhile?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,865 ✭✭✭TRS30


    BadBannana wrote: »
    Also, does anyone here own a home gym? What were the initial start up costs and do you think it was worthwhile?

    I don't know if I would call it a home gym however I do work out at home. I have two adjustable dumb bells, a bar and weights, bench and a basic station that I can do bench, squats and dips.

    All in probably cost me about €300 and a bit more since for more weights. I got the bar and all the weights second hand.

    I like the flexibility of working out at home however it does have its drawbacks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭Cake Man


    TRS30 wrote: »
    I like the flexibility of working out at home however it does have its drawbacks.
    I'd say it's a big time saver alright but I'm guessing limited equipment and capacity? Would you say there's much to be said for working out in an environment with other people or prefer alone?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,865 ✭✭✭TRS30


    Cake Man wrote: »
    TRS30 wrote: »
    I like the flexibility of working out at home however it does have its drawbacks.
    I'd say it's a big time saver alright but I'm guessing limited equipment and capacity? Would you say there's much to be said for working out in an environment with other people or prefer alone?

    As I said it has its positives and negatives. Personally, I like working out alone as I get less distracted. Before when I was in a gym I would be looking at what was going on around me. I also like being able to work out whenever suits me which is massive for me with two young kids. I do miss not having a wide variety of equipment however you can do a lot of different things with what I have.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,357 ✭✭✭bladespin


    TRS30 wrote: »
    I don't know if I would call it a home gym however I do work out at home. I have two adjustable dumb bells, a bar and weights, bench and a basic station that I can do bench, squats and dips.

    All in probably cost me about €300 and a bit more since for more weights. I got the bar and all the weights second hand.

    I like the flexibility of working out at home however it does have its drawbacks.

    Same here, started out when I was about 13 (a while back ;)), current list;
    Bench including preacher attachment (no rak yet)
    big selection of free weights
    Straight bar
    Ez Bar
    combi bar (great for french press/skulls)
    adjustable dumbells
    combi cable gym
    treadmill
    exercise bike (cheapo and gathering dust lol)
    various bands
    couple of kettlebells

    Covers a wide range for me anyway, the mrs is less enthusiastic though lol.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,865 ✭✭✭TRS30


    bladespin wrote: »
    TRS30 wrote: »
    I don't know if I would call it a home gym however I do work out at home. I have two adjustable dumb bells, a bar and weights, bench and a basic station that I can do bench, squats and dips.

    All in probably cost me about €300 and a bit more since for more weights. I got the bar and all the weights second hand.

    I like the flexibility of working out at home however it does have its drawbacks.

    Same here, started out when I was about 13 (a while back ;)), current list;
    Bench including preacher attachment (no rak yet)
    big selection of free weights
    Straight bar
    Ez Bar
    combi bar (great for french press/skulls)
    adjustable dumbells
    combi cable gym
    treadmill
    exercise bike (cheapo and gathering dust lol)
    various bands
    couple of kettlebells

    Covers a wide range for me anyway, the mrs is less enthusiastic though lol.
    That is some amount of kit to have at home! Wouldn't have room for a quarter of that stuff. Since moving during the summer the shed can only store what I have, not enough room to actually work out so have to do that outside. Been a bit chilly the last few nights!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Deano7788


    For those who have competed, what kind of way would you deload prior to a competition? Would you typically drop volume, intensity or both? And by how much roughly?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,586 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Kinda depends on what your current training is like. Last few weeks before the comp and you should reduce the assistance and the number of lift variations and do more of the comp lifts.

    An ok rule of thumb is to warm up to do a single for your SBDs on the Friday or Monday* before a comp, then do everything up to your last warmup on the Wednesday before the comp at the weekend. The exact time that you do your openers before the comp would vary from lift to lift. Doing your opener bench as close as the Monday before is fine, but deadlift should be further away. When to do your last squat would probably be up to you.

    FYI, I'm the worst at deloading. I deload so much, I show up undertrained. Someone else should have a better answer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭whippet


    Take the comp as a Saturday.

    I would take my last training day on the Monday and do all three openers on that day ... typically a 2 hour session with no assistance work etc.

    Before that I would so a last heavy deadlift 3 weeks out (2nd attempt), last heavy squat 2 weeks out and last heavy bench on same week as the last squat.

    Typically the last four weeks to competition will be just the comp lifts with decreasing amount of accessories


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,357 ✭✭✭bladespin


    TRS30 wrote: »
    That is some amount of kit to have at home! Wouldn't have room for a quarter of that stuff. Since moving during the summer the shed can only store what I have, not enough room to actually work out so have to do that outside. Been a bit chilly the last few nights!!

    Ah, lots of nooks and crannies to hide it all, mrs gave up giving out about it ages ago. Still been told a load has to be moved for the Christmas ;) but am in the process of converting the box room over to a mini gym, might post a pic when it's done.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    How does this look?

    Day 1
    Bulgarina split squat
    kettle bell swing
    Hammer Curls & shoulder press
    Back pulls
    Bicep pulls
    3 body weight back strengthening exercises Bird Dog etc.,

    Day 2

    Bench
    Lateral lunges
    Back pull
    Bicep pull
    3 body weight back strengthening exercises Bird Dog etc.,
    Abs

    Day3
    Sumo Deadlift
    Back pull
    Shoulder dumbell work out
    Hammer curls
    3 body weight back strengthening exercises Bird Dog etc.,
    Abs


  • Registered Users Posts: 355 ✭✭BadBannana


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    How does this look?

    Day 1
    Bulgarina split squat
    kettle bell swing
    Hammer Curls & shoulder press
    Back pulls
    Bicep pulls
    3 body weight back strengthening exercises Bird Dog etc.,

    Day 2

    Bench
    Lateral lunges
    Back pull
    Bicep pull
    3 body weight back strengthening exercises Bird Dog etc.,
    Abs

    Day3
    Sumo Deadlift
    Back pull
    Shoulder dumbell work out
    Hammer curls
    3 body weight back strengthening exercises Bird Dog etc.,
    Abs

    What is a bicep pull and a back pull?
    What kind of sets/reps have you planned?
    Why lateral lunges?
    How is "shoulder press & hammer curl" on day 2 different to "shoulder workout followed by hammer curl"
    Why isolation for your biceps but not your triceps?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,416 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    How does this look?

    Day 1
    Bulgarina split squat
    kettle bell swing
    Hammer Curls & shoulder press
    Back pulls
    Bicep pulls
    3 body weight back strengthening exercises Bird Dog etc.,

    Day 2

    Bench
    Lateral lunges
    Back pull
    Bicep pull
    3 body weight back strengthening exercises Bird Dog etc.,
    Abs

    Day3
    Sumo Deadlift
    Back pull
    Shoulder dumbell work out
    Hammer curls
    3 body weight back strengthening exercises Bird Dog etc.,
    Abs


    Looks like you really want big biceps.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 12,820 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Brian? wrote: »
    Looks like you really want big biceps.

    How else is anybody supposed to know you lift?


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,393 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Brian? wrote: »
    Looks like you really want big biceps.

    How else is anybody supposed to know you lift?
    Invisible Lat Syndrome


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    BadBannana wrote: »
    What is a bicep pull and a back pull?
    What kind of sets/reps have you planned?
    Why lateral lunges?
    How is "shoulder press & hammer curl" on day 2 different to "shoulder workout followed by hammer curl"
    Why isolation for your biceps but not your triceps?

    Sorry I meant face pull, bicep curl using the weight machine.
    I have inflamed my hip (going to physio to find out what is exactly wrong so avoiding barbell squats.
    Shoulder press or other shoulder exercise.
    I sort of feel that bench covers triceps but that's why I'm here to look for advice it may be a rubbish program.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,189 ✭✭✭drdeadlift


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    How does this look?

    Day 1
    Bulgarina split squat
    kettle bell swing
    Hammer Curls & shoulder press
    Back pulls
    Bicep pulls
    3 body weight back strengthening exercises Bird Dog etc.,

    Day 2

    Bench
    Lateral lunges
    Back pull
    Bicep pull
    3 body weight back strengthening exercises Bird Dog etc.,
    Abs

    Day3
    Sumo Deadlift
    Back pull
    Shoulder dumbell work out
    Hammer curls
    3 body weight back strengthening exercises Bird Dog etc.,
    Abs

    Try it for a a few weeks,you will know if it is effective soon enough.Making mistakes is an effective way of learning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    drdeadlift wrote: »
    Try it for a a few weeks,you will know if it is effective soon enough.Making mistakes is an effective way of learning.

    Okay well thanks for giving a non snarky reply compared with the above.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,628 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    How does this look?

    Day 1
    Bulgarina split squat
    kettle bell swing
    Hammer Curls & shoulder press
    Back pulls
    Bicep pulls
    3 body weight back strengthening exercises Bird Dog etc.,

    Day 2

    Bench
    Lateral lunges
    Back pull
    Bicep pull
    3 body weight back strengthening exercises Bird Dog etc.,
    Abs

    Day3
    Sumo Deadlift
    Back pull
    Shoulder dumbell work out
    Hammer curls
    3 body weight back strengthening exercises Bird Dog etc.,
    Abs

    There's not enough pulling or back work. The BW exercises (other than bird dog, what do you include?) are fine but you could stand to do more posterior chain work.

    What is the nature of the hip injury that makes you avoid squats but do split squats, KB swings, sumo DL and lateral lunges?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    There's not enough pulling or back work. The BW exercises (other than bird dog, what do you include?) are fine but you could stand to do more posterior chain work.

    What is the nature of the hip injury that makes you avoid squats but do split squats, KB swings, sumo DL and lateral lunges?

    I'm seeing a physio on Wednesday above my hip area feels inflamed, tender, there has always been a marked imbalance in my squat with one leg being very dominant over the other, I've tried to fix this by strengthening the 'weaker' leg, it hasn't worked the advice I got over the years from p.t.'s, physio, doctor ranged from ignoring it to, just put a plate underneath your foot, take up swimming, or it's fine my friend has the same problem and they are grand so now I need to seek proper help. The pain has gone away but I'm still aware of it and I think I need to use lighter weights in a more controlled movement.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,628 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    I'm seeing a physio on Wednesday above my hip area feels inflamed, tender, there has always been a marked imbalance in my squat with one leg being very dominant over the other, I've tried to fix this by strengthening the 'weaker' leg, it hasn't worked the advice I got over the years from p.t.'s, physio, doctor ranged from ignoring it to, just put a plate underneath your foot, take up swimming, or it's fine my friend has the same problem and they are grand so now I need to seek proper help. The pain has gone away but I'm still aware of it and I think I need to use lighter weights in a more controlled movement.

    Im not suggesting its the same but my squat can look lop-sided if i haven't done enough mobility work and it usually happens on the same side. Some proper mobility drills and Im fine. But hopefully the physio gets to the root of it because frankly it sounds like everyone that has addressed it previously has been incompetent to varying degrees if what you've said above is the sum of their advice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Im not suggesting its the same but my squat can look lop-sided if i haven't done enough mobility work and it usually happens on the same side. Some proper mobility drills and Im fine. But hopefully the physio gets to the root of it because frankly it sounds like everyone that has addressed it previously has been incompetent to varying degrees if what you've said above is the sum of their advice.

    I'm pretty sure it's hip bursitis by what I've read so the physio will be able to help. I asked the doc, physio and p.t for advice when my hip was fine and the symptoms were just a memory, as it flares up from time to time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    https://www.instagram.com/p/BcStX-6lkIR/?taken-by=sonnywebstergb

    This is gas. Mr. 'Ban the dopers for life' gets caught and uses the 'ol "dodgy supps" excuse to direct the blame away from him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,428 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Does anybody buy their meat from the butcher using the interweb?

    I like the look of these guys: http://www.thepremiumbutcher.ie/
    Has anyone ever ordered from them before?

    I'm thinking it might be worth trying out because I inevitably never buy enough meat when I do my weekly shop at the weekend, so ordering online will save me the hassle of going during the week. Plus it should lessen the likelihood of getting a takeaway when I am too lazy to go to the shop to buy said meat.

    They also have cuts of meat that I can't find in local butchers/supermarkets here in Galway, e.g. beef brisket and pork shoulder.

    ^^^
    Jesus I sound like a shill :o
    I have no affiliation whatsoever with the butcher that I linked!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    Looks like they finally got the Irish lifters on to http://www.openpowerlifting.org/.


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