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deadlybuzzman · 09-01-2018 12:24am

TRS30 wrote: »

Should you be able to lift the same weight/reps for block pulls as conventional DL?

The expectation for most people is that they will lift more, however for years mine was weaker. Basically I was using just my quads to generate momentum and blast through the lift.
Now that I can use my glutes and my hamstrings I can load much more weight onto them and I'm stronger on all variations of partial deads compared to regular deads

Mellor · 09-01-2018 12:33am

TRS30 wrote: »

Should you be able to lift the same weight/reps for block pulls as conventional DL?

Probably more tbh

TRS30 · 09-01-2018 2:27pm

TRS30 wrote: »

Should you be able to lift the same weight/reps for block pulls as conventional DL?

Confession time.........just realised it wasn't block pulls at all I was doing. It was deficit deadlifts. I was standing on the block not the weights!! Feel like a right numpty. Block is about 2 inches thick so assume this should be harder?!?

cloudatlas · 09-01-2018 2:34pm

What is the best oil to put in a protein shake to aid with meeting my calorie intake?

Blacktie. · 09-01-2018 2:40pm

cloudatlas wrote: »

What is the best oil to put in a protein shake to aid with meeting my calorie intake?

Jesus you must be hard up if you're using oil to meet calories! Honestly I don't think it matters. Just a tea spoon of whatever in.

09-01-2018 2:45pm

cloudatlas wrote: »

What is the best oil to put in a protein shake to aid with meeting my calorie intake?

U could make no-bake protein bars with oats and a load of nut butter. Doing it at the mo and they are tasty

cloudatlas · 09-01-2018 2:47pm

Blacktie. wrote: »

Jesus you must be hard up if you're using oil to meet calories! Honestly I don't think it matters. Just a tea spoon of whatever in.

Well I've only just started tracking and discovered that I'm struggling to hit maintenance so just trying to be more aware. Some days I miss breakfast and then I'm in a bit of a bind trying to get in the extra. Lunch is normally chicken salad and fruit, I bought almond butter and bags of nuts. I was thinking of putting the oil in my protein shake.

Blacktie. · 09-01-2018 3:05pm

cloudatlas wrote: »

Well I've only just started tracking and discovered that I'm struggling to hit maintenance so just trying to be more aware. Some days I miss breakfast and then I'm in a bit of a bind trying to get in the extra. Lunch is normally chicken salad and fruit, I bought almond butter and bags of nuts. I was thinking of putting the oil in my protein shake.

Well it is an easy way to add calories but there are tastier ways. Like dumping the salad for any starch source basically.

cloudatlas · 09-01-2018 3:52pm

Blacktie. wrote: »

Well it is an easy way to add calories but there are tastier ways. Like dumping the salad for any starch source basically.

Yea, a sandwich with the extra chicken would be a better option.

Brian? · 09-01-2018 6:35pm

Blacktie. wrote: »

Well it is an easy way to add calories but there are tastier ways. Like dumping the salad for any starch source basically.

I disagree. I used to drink shots of really good quality extra virgin olive oil to hit calorie goals. Really good quality olive oil is unbelievably tashty.

09-01-2018 6:48pm

Brian? wrote: »

I disagree. I used to drink shots of really good quality extra virgin olive oil to hit calorie goals. Really good quality olive oil is unbelievably tashty.

uwotm8

Mr. CooL ICE · 09-01-2018 7:14pm

I've never tracked my calories. But considering I accidentally lost 1.5kg last year while also getting stronger, I figured I was undereating. Made the following yesterday, which is an old favourite of mine:

Whole jar of coconut oil (about 500g? I dunno)
Two heaped tablespoons of nutella
Six scoops of chocolate protein powder
200g bag of ground almonds/almond flakes from the baking aisle
Two heaped tablespoons of hot chocolate powder
Porridge oats (initially a handful, but add more later)

Directions: Heat the coconut oil in a pot until it melts. Add the nutella and stir through to soften it. Add the dry ingredients in a bowl, then mix in the wet. Add additional porridge oats until all the coconut oil looks like it has been absorbed. Line a small baking tray with cling film, pour in and leave in the ridge for a few hours to set. Take out and slice into chunks.

It's not really a protein snack, but more like a calorie snack. I've no idea what the macros are but either way, these are more palatable than straight oil.

Alf Veedersane · 09-01-2018 7:17pm

Brian? wrote: »

Really good quality olive oil is unbelievably tashty.

I'll say!

caviardreams · 09-01-2018 7:29pm

I could easily eat one of those little 170g jars of cashew butter in one sitting - 1000 kcals :eek::eek: #selfimposednutbutterbanforagoodreason

Blacktie. · 09-01-2018 8:02pm

Nicolas Cage wrote:

Whole jar of coconut oil (about 500g? I dunno) Two heaped teaspoons of nutella Six scoops of chocolate protein powder 200g bag of ground almonds/almond flakes from the baking aisle Porridge oats (initially a handful, but add more later)

This sounds like a few litres of horribleness. 500g of coconut oil!? Surely you mean coconut water or coconut milk because that part alone is 4500 calories....

Dtp1979 · 09-01-2018 8:07pm

caviardreams wrote: »

I could easily eat one of those little 170g jars of cashew butter in one sitting - 1000 kcals :eek::eek: #selfimposednutbutterbanforagoodreason

Cashew butter is the best. Meridian. Great way to add calories too.

09-01-2018 8:15pm

I've never tried cashew butter but i love almond butter in stuff. my favourite brownies use it http://www.irishpaleogirl.ie/2013/10/paleo-avocado-and-chocolate-brownies.html
the bars i made are - melt some milk and peanut butter and honey, mix in with a cup of porridge oats and 2 heaped scoops/60g of protein powder and some cocoa powder, throw in some mixed nuts, mix the lot, freeze, makes 9 servings

Brian? · 09-01-2018 8:36pm

bluewolf wrote: »

uwotm8

You’re buying the wrong olive oil.

Or I’m a complete weirdo. I know where my money is going.

bladespin · 09-01-2018 8:45pm

Second on the olive oil, not only tasted good but adds brilliant texture to a protein shake, that said JAYSUS what are you not eating??? Find it so easy to overrun not undercut lol, that said I did go through a phase of adding 3 tbsps of peanutbutter to shakes, try it - gawgess!!!

Mr. CooL ICE · 09-01-2018 9:32pm

Blacktie. wrote: »

This sounds like a few litres of horribleness. 500g of coconut oil!? Surely you mean coconut water or coconut milk because that part alone is 4500 calories....

Nope. Oil. Aside from the greasy residue on your fingers, you wouldn't know how much oil is in it

Blacktie. · 09-01-2018 9:43pm

Jesus man that's 4500 calories of just oil though. Wtf is your calorie target? And I hope that's all you eat all day...

Wait a minute...I'm an idiot. This is obviously a bar mix. I was thinking it was a massive horrible shake you drank in one go.

Mr. CooL ICE · 09-01-2018 9:48pm

Blacktie. wrote: »

Jesus man that's 4500 calories of just oil though. Wtf is your calorie target? And I hope that's all you eat all day...

Wait a minute...I'm an idiot. This is obviously a bar mix. I was thinking it was a massive horrible shake you drank in one go.

Hahaha was wondering why there was confusion.

To be fair, it was in response to a question regarding shakes.

Alf Veedersane · 09-01-2018 10:09pm

Blacktie. wrote: »

I was thinking it was a massive horrible shake you drank in one go.

No, silly!

The mix goes into coffee and then you drink it because ketogenic weight loss.

09-01-2018 10:14pm

Blacktie. wrote: »

Jesus man that's 4500 calories of just oil though. Wtf is your calorie target? And I hope that's all you eat all day...

Wait a minute...I'm an idiot. This is obviously a bar mix. I was thinking it was a massive horrible shake you drank in one go.

:D:D:D

rubadub · 09-01-2018 10:17pm

Blacktie. wrote: »

. I was thinking it was a massive horrible shake you drank in one go.

coconut oil is solid at room temp. It melts only on very warm days. This is why lots of cinemas use it for popcorn, it has a really nice mouthfeel to it due to it melting a little below body temp.

I melt it and mix with melted high cocoa chocolate and let it set in the fridge in shallow containers. This can then be broken up so it is nice thin chocolate, like easter eggs. It melts in the mouth very nicely.

deadlybuzzman · 09-01-2018 10:24pm

TRS30 wrote: »

Confession time.........just realised it wasn't block pulls at all I was doing. It was deficit deadlifts. I was standing on the block not the weights!! Feel like a right numpty. Block is about 2 inches thick so assume this should be harder?!?

Yes that's definitely harder. It's my movement of choice at the moment for building the deadlift

Alf Veedersane · 09-01-2018 10:29pm

TRS30 wrote: »

Confession time.........just realised it wasn't block pulls at all I was doing. It was deficit deadlifts. I was standing on the block not the weights!! Feel like a right numpty. Block is about 2 inches thick so assume this should be harder?!?

If it's any consolation, you're right.

You are a numpty.

Yes, deficit deadlifts will be harder, more often than not, because of the bigger range of motion.

I prefer them to actual block pulls though. I think I find myself better at getting myself into a better starting position with deficits.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 10-01-2018 12:42am

Anyone else wishing it was Feb so you can find parking at the gym once the 'New Year, New Me' newbies have dropped off and sanity returns?.

Reps4jesus · 10-01-2018 9:38am

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

If it's any consolation, you're right.

You are a numpty.

Yes, deficit deadlifts will be harder, more often than not, because of the bigger range of motion.

I prefer them to actual block pulls though. I think I find myself better at getting myself into a better starting position with deficits.

My back angle goes all wrong if i try deficits so i never do them but they are a great exercise if you can do them with good form.

Re block pulls/ regular deadlifts, in theory you should be able to pull more from blocks due to shorter ROM but i have always found im about the same on both

TRS30 · 10-01-2018 11:11am

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

TRS30 wrote: »

Confession time.........just realised it wasn't block pulls at all I was doing. It was deficit deadlifts. I was standing on the block not the weights!! Feel like a right numpty. Block is about 2 inches thick so assume this should be harder?!?

If it's any consolation, you're right.

You are a numpty.

Yes, deficit deadlifts will be harder, more often than not, because of the bigger range of motion.

I prefer them to actual block pulls though. I think I find myself better at getting myself into a better starting position with deficits.

Always nice to have it confirmed

I enjoy them as I feel they work the back and hamstrings harder so I'm getting more out of them. I also feel my DL grip has got much better and only needed straps on the last set at a weight that I know I would have needed them previously for all sets. No idea if this due to deficits at all.
As I wasn't sure if deficits or RDL would be better for me I did 3 sets of deficits and 2 sets of RDL as one of my main accessory lifts.

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