Strange findings on Chain Reaction for Irish buyers.

ted1

gordongekko wrote: »

Tesco's charge a different price for Lyon's tea in the north than the south

I'm at the stage where I want to shake you and shout "what part of this don't you understand?"

They are different stores. Both stores will charge the same price to any customer not matter where they are from.

Beasty

ted1 wrote: »

You have to be trolling

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Weepsie

They have a separate registered company in RoI. I questioned already on the other thread could this be used to essentially set different prices for customers here, but not sure if there was reliable answer. Same store front, but different company. Unlikely I guess.

Beasty

Weepsie wrote: »

They have a separate registered company in RoI. I questioned already on the other thread could this be used to essentially set different prices for customers here, but not sure if there was reliable answer. Same store front, but different company. Unlikely I guess.

Their website makes it clear you contract with the UK company

Kaisr Sose

CRC are engaging in discriminatory and possibly predatory pricing by applying different prices for the same goods from a fixed cost base, for sales to customers in different geographic location within the EU (common market). They can use all the marketing bull they want about setting prices to match competitor promotions but that's what it is - bull, and anti competitive to boot!

I won't buy off them again.

The Tesco comparison is not an apples with apples one. Tesco have higher costs here (rent, staff, utilities, distribution (bigger economies of scale in the UK). NI benefits because Tesco treat the whole of the UK as a common pricing zone, including Highlands and Islands ). CRC would do well to copy the model.

gordongekko

ted1 wrote: »

I'm at the stage where I want to shake you and shout "what part of this don't you understand?"

They are different stores. Both stores will charge the same price to any customer not matter where they are from.

They are the same parent company. Both are owned by Tesco PLC. CRC will allow you to collect it from their store in the north and pay and pay the same price as anyone.

They have priced it differently down here as that is what price the market will take. You are not forced to buy off them.

Beasty

gordongekko wrote: »

They are the same parent company. Both are owned by Tesco PLC. CRC will allow you to collect it from their store in the north and pay and pay the same price as anyone.

They have priced it differently down here as that is what price the market will take. You are not forced to buy off them.

This remains completely irrelevant to the point in question. Tesco are not breaking European law, but CRC are

cython

gordongekko wrote: »

They are the same parent company. Both are owned by Tesco PLC. CRC will allow you to collect it from their store in the north and pay and pay the same price as anyone.

They have priced it differently down here as that is what price the market will take. You are not forced to buy off them.

Beasty wrote: »

This remains completely irrelevant to the point in question. Tesco are not breaking European law, but CRC are

And to extend on this, wiggle and CRC are owned by the same parent entity now (though are not necessarily the same company, in the same way as common ownership does to make Tesco Ireland and Tesco UK the same) as well, but that doesn't mean that they can't charge different prices on their two different sites (in this instance this is analogous to the two different tesco/centra/whatever outlets). However the point being made is that one distance seller should not vary their price based on location except where this is due to VAT differences, etc. (i.e. not varying the base price)

Kaisr Sose

cython wrote: »

However the point being made is that one distance seller should not vary their price based on location except where this is due to VAT differences, etc. (i.e. not varying the base price)

That's it in a nutshell! CRC have different prices (excl VAT influence) for the same items if you buy with location as IE, UK, DE, BE or FR, yet all goods are sold from the same location. Distribution costs would not influence price by much.
Bike24, Bike-Discount, Evans, 4TheBike, BikeComponents to name a few don't to this, so why don't they ? Because it's contrary to EU consumer and distance selling law.

ted1

gordongekko wrote: »

They have priced it differently down here as that is what price the market will take. You are not forced to buy off them.

Which is grand because they have physical stores with different operating costs. Each store will charge each individual who walks in the same price regardless of where they live.

Let's use the Tesco example for CRC,Paddy walks into Tesco Dun laoighre and is sold an item for 5 euro, then Jose from Madrid walks into Tesco Dun Laoighre and they say Jose you live in Spain so the same item is 4 euro, then George from England walks in and is sold the same item for 4.50 because he lives in England.

That's price descrimination which is what CRC is doing.

Different prices in different stores is fine as there are different operating costs for each store, but CRC don't have different stores, it's a website with the same staff, ware house and website etc.

magicbastarder

gordongekko wrote: »

Tesco's charge a different price for Lyon's tea in the north than the south

tesco will change their pricing patterns based on whether the store is in a well off area or a more 'working class' area, let alone in different countries.

ted1

magicbastarder wrote: »

tesco will change their pricing patterns based on whether the store is in a well off area or a more 'working class' area, let alone in different countries.

Superquinn were great at that, the blackrock store was like the Champs de elyse while the kilnamanha store was more like down town Aleppo

Kaisr Sose

magicbastarder wrote: »

tesco will change their pricing patterns based on whether the store is in a well off area or a more 'working class' area, let alone in different countries.

Where are you getting that from? Quote or link
They publish prices in the press or web for ROI, not by county or town. Same for Tesco in UK or Carrefour in France, Billa in Austria, Aldi/Lidl in Germany etc.

magicbastarder

i don't have a link for it, what i was referring to was a practice where say a 1l bottle of olive oil will often be a bit less than double the price of a 500ml bottle in a working class area, but often a bit more than double the price in a well off area. because generally, people are more budget conscious the less money they have, they pay more attention to the actual price per volume.

will try to find a source on that, i was told it by someone who used to work in tesco so i have no proof to hand.

fat bloke

magicbastarder wrote: »

i don't have a link for it, what i was referring to was a practice where say a 1l bottle of olive oil will often be a bit less than double the price of a 500ml bottle in a working class area, but often a bit more than double the price in a well off area. because generally, people are more budget conscious the less money they have, they pay more attention to the actual price per volume.

will try to find a source on that, i was told it by someone who used to work in tesco so i have no proof to hand.

Well that's clearly boll0x.

Everyone knows working class people don't buy olive oil. :pac:

Kaisr Sose

#inspired

Beasty

fat bloke wrote: »

Well that's clearly boll0x.

Everyone knows working class people don't buy olive oil. :pac:

We are allowed treats you know.

Also my ENT specialist recommends it for my ears.

Chuchote

magicbastarder wrote: »

tesco will change their pricing patterns based on whether the store is in a well off area or a more 'working class' area, let alone in different countries.

It used to be housewifely wisdom to buy cheap cuts of meat in well-off areas and expensive cuts in poor areas for this reason.

TheBlaaMan

They're still at it

Castelli Gabba 2 s/s
20% off Irish euro price but 35% UK Sterling price
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/castelli-gabba-2-jersey-aw16/rp-prod122846?icn=week4_2017_castellijersey&icb=bspot1-c-week4_2017_castellijersey

Saving is over €21 if you pay in sterling

jamesd

TheBlaaMan wrote: »

They're still at it

Castelli Gabba 2 s/s
20% off Irish euro price but 35% UK Sterling price
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/castelli-gabba-2-jersey-aw16/rp-prod122846?icn=week4_2017_castellijersey&icb=bspot1-c-week4_2017_castellijersey

Saving is over €21 if you pay in sterling

There is €400 saving on a set of carbon rims I'm looking at if I pay sterling with uk delivery address.

Bambaata

Which wheels are they doing that on?

I assume you can anything n the shop that they have online? I'm beside their Belfast store once a fortnight with work so may pay a visit

Chuchote

jamesd wrote: »

There is €400 saving on a set of carbon rims I'm looking at if I pay sterling with uk delivery address.

Does Conor Pope still do that value-for-money column in the Times?

harringtonp

Looking at a possible set of wheels from CRC (prime when they come back in stock) but the price difference is irritating to say the least and I'm looking at options. They won't fit in a parcel motel locker and based on guessed box dimensions size your looking at 40 euro with them. An post addresspal charge 25 euro for oversized items.

Has anybody shipped a wheelset using either of these (and found they were charged less) or found another way of doing it ?

jamesd

harringtonp wrote: »

Looking at a possible set of wheels from CRC (prime when they come back in stock) but the price difference is irritating to say the least and I'm looking at options. They won't fit in a parcel motel locker and based on guessed box dimensions size your looking at 40 euro with them. An post addresspal charge 25 euro for oversized items.

Has anybody shipped a wheelset using either of these (and found they were charged less) or found another way of doing it ?

Used addresspal - its €25 and if the savings are there whats €25 for shipping once you are saving a few hundred euros.

rubadub

harringtonp wrote: »

Has anybody shipped a wheelset using either of these (and found they were charged less) or found another way of doing it ?

Did you look at parcelconnect and parcelwizard. I think wizard do bigger parcel sizes than motel.

Eamonnator

TheBlaaMan wrote: »

They're still at it

Castelli Gabba 2 s/s
20% off Irish euro price but 35% UK Sterling price
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/castelli-gabba-2-jersey-aw16/rp-prod122846?icn=week4_2017_castellijersey&icb=bspot1-c-week4_2017_castellijersey

Saving is over €21 if you pay in sterling

I brought this to CRC's attention.
It has now been amended.

harringtonp

rubadub wrote: »

Did you look at parcelconnect and parcelwizard. I think wizard do bigger parcel sizes than motel.

Just looked, they are not giving delivery costs from virtual addresses without registration.

TheDocMan

They're still at it.
Fizik Kurve saddle. £59.99 but €91.99
At exchange rate of €1 to £0.85 this should be about €70.50
That's a nice 30% over charge for Irish customers.
Sent an email complaint but I expect a banal well worked reply. I'll update details when I get it.
Poor form.

Sinbad_NI

Bambaata wrote:

I assume you can anything n the shop that they have online? I'm beside their Belfast store once a fortnight with work so may pay a visit

Boucher Road is just a large shop. Not the warehouse. Availability is not as per the website.

If you go to Doagh store just outside Belfast it's where you can get most things from the warehouse.
They have another warehouse not at Doagh so probably best to check before you go maybe.

Weepsie

Hate to dig up old threads (bad Mod), but was looking at something on CRC and liked the price. There was about a 20% difference in price to get it delivered to Ireland. It was only £45 (€51) but was €67 when I changed.

I logged into their chat to see was it a mistake. I got a response saying, market value is different in each location, exchange rates etc, but then he said, we build in shipping costs to the final price. If they are, and are advertising free shipping, they may find themselves in trouble.

have a transcript of it, so might have to send it on to them,