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Tolka river filth

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  • 25-01-2017 5:58pm
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    Dr Crayfish
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    Cycling past this river every day, going over the Luke Kelly bridge coming into North Strand, it breaks my heart to see the beautiful Cranes and Swans with all their grace, among the shopping trolleys, traffic cones, and general rubbish in the river, which has been absolutely shamefully filthy for as long as I can remember. I went to school around there in the 90s and it hasn't improved at all.
    Is there anything that can be done to clean it up? Or who's responsible for this?
    I know the people of North Inner City Dublin like to throw their rubbish around the streets without thinking about it (it's voted dirtiest place in Ireland every year), but what can we do to improve cleanliness in this river and this part of the city? Is it purely a class thing? I used to cycle through Summerhill every day - instead of paying for bin tags the locals just leave bags of rubbish all over the streets that get blown around and kicked around eventually. They seem to like living in their own filth.
    Same goes for Fairview park. The rubbish left around the place, even in winter, is just shocking. What goes through these people's minds? Oh wait, nothing probably...


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    neris
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    tolka has always been a shi**y river and its looks probably arent helped that it nearly drys out at low tide. Probably the OPW who look after with the city council.


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    subpar
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    Why not contact Irish Waterways and An Taisce and organise a spring clean up one Saturday like they do on the Dodder


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    Dr Crayfish
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    subpar wrote: »
    Why not contact Irish Waterways and An Taisce and organise a spring clean up one Saturday like they do on the Dodder

    I'm not sure how you'd even get down there, when the tide is out there's probably a 3 meter drop.

    I needed to get that rant off my chest earlier. Seeing the beautiful Crane on a shopping trolley on the way to work made me emotional ffs.


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    L1011
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    subpar wrote: »
    Why not contact Irish Waterways and An Taisce and organise a spring clean up one Saturday like they do on the Dodder

    Waterways would not be responsible for the Tolka as its not a navigable waterway. An Taisce generally don't care about the northside :pac:

    DCC/local councillors would be the main point of contact to get anything done.


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    newacc2015
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    L1011 wrote: »
    An Taisce generally don't care about the northside :pac:

    Come on they do! They love blocking the redevelopment of the north inner city. Why have a modern hospital when you keep the skyline of the city the same.

    OP try asking DCC. I wonder if their flood defenses have anything to with the river dirt build up. DCC instead of regularly cleaning, only appear to clean things on request. My road used to be cleaned every 3 months, now it is every 6 months. But it was looking really rough and DCC told it was 9 months since they last cleaned it.


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    loyatemu
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    Dr Crayfish wrote: »
    Cycling past this river every day, going over the Luke Kelly bridge coming into North Strand, it breaks my heart to see the beautiful Cranes and Swans with all their grace

    we don't have cranes in Ireland (not the avian kind anyway) - probably herons.


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    odyssey06
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    loyatemu wrote: »
    we don't have cranes in Ireland (not the avian kind anyway) - probably herons.

    Could be Egrets too... have seen them in the Tolka. I try to focus on them and not the debris ... that's when I'm not dodging the footpaths fouled with dogs dirt :(

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    Dr Crayfish
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    loyatemu wrote: »
    we don't have cranes in Ireland (not the avian kind anyway) - probably herons.

    Oh sorry yeah, it's a grey heron. They are beautiful. It's amazing that they look so exotic yet they just walk around Fairview Park in the morning.


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    L1011
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    If you work in eastpoint, herons are a regular visitor to the ponds too.


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    John_Rambo
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    I was involved in a few clean ups in the Tolka and it's actually not that dirty. There's debris alright, cones, trolleys ect.. but while they're certainly an eyesore, they're not that much of a pollutant. More like urban perching and nesting points for birds! (as witnessed here). There's breeding salmon coming up river every year. Dublin is the only capital in Europe with breeding salmon on three rivers.


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    italodisco
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    I live around the turn from Luke Kelly Bridge and there are both egrets and other resident herons there.

    Such a shame to see them out in the middle of shopping trolleys, dumped push bikes, domestic rubbish bins etc....

    There sure is a lack of pride around North inner city, it's not just locals though, I've on more than one occasion caught Brazilians / Indians etc dumping their rubbish thinking they weren't seen.

    Place is an absolute dump now


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    Lovely Bloke
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    John_Rambo wrote: »
    I was involved in a few clean ups in the Tolka and it's actually not that dirty. There's debris alright, cones, trolleys ect.. but while they're certainly an eyesore, they're not that much of a pollutant. More like urban perching and nesting points for birds! (as witnessed here). There's breeding salmon coming up river every year. Dublin is the only capital in Europe with breeding salmon on three rivers.

    yep, there are salmon in the Tolka at Scribblestown, which is brilliant, and just further downriver in Tolka Valley Park is the whole natural cleaning pond thing.

    From there down through the Botanics and on past Drumcondra into Ballybough there isn't really anywhere it could be getting actually polluted.


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    andekwarhola
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    L1011 wrote: »
    If you work in eastpoint, herons are a regular visitor to the ponds too.

    Often see them along the Dodder as well.


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    harry Bailey esq
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    neris wrote: »
    tolka has always been a shi**y river and its looks probably arent helped that it nearly drys out at low tide. Probably the OPW who look after with the city council.

    Looks can be deceiving, salmon have been spawning in the tolka again for the past few years.A number of otters have been seen


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    John_Rambo
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    italodisco wrote: »
    Place is an absolute dump now

    It's actually not that bad. (according to the current wildlife) Certainly the dumping of household refuse is very very bad, but the trolleys and bikes aren't the worst type of pollutant.

    If you feel strongly about it PM me and I can put you in touch with groups that are involved with clean ups.


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    Del2005
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    italodisco wrote: »

    There sure is a lack of pride around North inner city, it's not just locals though, I've on more than one occasion caught Brazilians / Indians etc dumping their rubbish thinking they weren't seen.

    Place is an absolute dump now

    You know what they say "When in Rome do as the Romans do". Though neither nation has a good environmental reputation.


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