Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2017

jayo26

Can't believe we are discussing a player and everyone seems to agree.

Jayop

Jayop wrote: »

One stat on it's own can be completely misleading. Like the leading passing accuracy for most teams tends to be the CB's. That doesn't mean they are the best passers, but that they play the easiest passes.

Ara sure I know that Jay and my point was a little tongue in cheek, but pointing out someone season long stats doesnt show me if they have hit a slumb in form or not. While stats deffo have there uses (I've used em lots in the past) if someone IMO isn't playing well after having watched them no amount of stats will change my mind on that

Jayop

jayo26 wrote: »

Can't believe we are discussing s player and everyone seems to agree.

You know I kinda liked the lad. He was limited but likeable. I'll never forget that little purple patch himself and Ando hit at the start of a season.

Deleted User wrote: »

Ara sure I know that Jay and my point was a little tongue in cheek, but pointing out someone season long stats doesnt show me if they have hit a slumb in form or not. While stats deffo have there uses (I've used em lots in the past) if someone IMO isn't playing well after having watched them no amount of stats will change my mind on that

Totally. Stats have their uses, but you need to back them up by using your eyes too. Like Pogba has the best stats for United this season in a lot of categories but he's clearly not been playing up to scratch for a while now.

jayo26

Jayop wrote: »

You know I kinda liked the lad. He was limited but likeable. I'll never forget that little purple patch himself and Ando hit at the start of a season.

Yeh that was the season I was talking about sire they played like xavi and Iniesta it was just like watching Barcelona. Think it was 11-12 season first 6 or so games.


PS. Joke about xavi and Iniesta.

Jayop

Is Kasper now world class??

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/mar/15/kasper-schmeichel-champions-league-leicester-steven-nzonzi

Barney Roney thinks he is and that's enough for me.

Trigger

I was watching Cleverly when he played a match for Watford there recently and I was amazed to see him still hiding behind opposition players.. he got the ball and passed it to the fullback and immediately ran in behind the opposition player and the fullback had no option but to hoof it forward. I remember it as I was giving out to the missus that he used to do that for United.

Jayop

Jayop wrote: »

Is Kasper now world class??

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/mar/15/kasper-schmeichel-champions-league-leicester-steven-nzonzi

Barney Roney thinks he is and that's enough for me.

I wonder was it Peter or Kasper himself who asked Barney to do the puff piece to help him get a move in the Summer.

Is Kasper Schmeichel world-class? Well, If DDG left this Summer and Kasper was linked with United as his replacement, I'd be hoping we'd look further. I don't think he is.

That article has some substance though, he would be a definite and necessary improvement for the likes of Liverpool who can't really decide on who is the lesser of two evils for their current keeper. I don't think Schmeichel is world-class, but that obviously doesn't mean that he can't win a PL title or help a team to one. He'd be a good signing for a Top 6 or 8 team who are currently lacking in the position.

Jayop

If DDG left I wouldn't be adverse to giving Romero a season.

jayo26

Jayop wrote: »

If DDG left I wouldn't be adverse to giving Romero a season.

Id love Schmeichel or butland if he recovers properly.

thelad95

Cleverley is a championship standard midfielder and it amazed me how he got nearly three seasons of first team football for us, two coming under ferguson.

Step 1: receive pass in promising position
Step 2: pass laterally to fullback or feign to pass the ball forward only to take a touch, turn around and pass back to the centre back
Step 3: run down a blind alley

And repeat.

RobertKK

TC23 just left me very frustrated when I watched him. Very negative football.

bucketybuck

And to think there were people that repeatedly tried to defend Cleverley and claim he was a good player and of enough quality for a big club.

People should remember the likes of Cleverley and Januazaj today when they try to argue that United have this super squad, its one thing to be a supporter but you don't need to be blind about it, you don't need to overrate plyers simply because they play for Manchester United. There are players in that squad now that just aren't good enough in the same way that Cleverley wasn't, and there are young players with talent that might never go anywhere same as Januzaj didn't, far better to recognise that fact.

jayo26

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thelad95

Will Januzaj ever make it at Manchester United? I think the loan spell to Dortmund was a terrible idea, he was always going to rot on the bench there and that hindered his development somewhat.

Trigger

Continuing with 3 at the back and 2 up top.. will be interesting anyways. Looking forward to this one I must say

J. Marston

thelad95 wrote: »

Will Januzaj ever make it at Manchester United? I think the loan spell to Dortmund was a terrible idea, he was always going to rot on the bench there and that hindered his development somewhat.

Ha, no.

Vertigo100

Hopefully that's blind as a holding midfielder and not a left back.

I like the look of that line-up, pity I'm going to miss the game live. The team could do with a comprehensive win. With this game though, I'll take a 1-0 for qualification to the next round.

dubmick

looks like Besiktas are going through. To be avoided imo.

jayo26

Bt lads doing fair assessment of Pogba but jake is so bloody annoying.

Quandary

Herrera already on a yellow before this match. Hopefully he can keep it on the straight and narrow!

Hococop

disappointing so far

kstand

Painful viewing. Very slow and laboured, no one trying to beat his man apart from Valencia. They are a threat on the counter, need to oput this to bed.

Quandary

Once again our problems lie in our ability to finish off chances. Not getting through this tie would be unthinkable.

Rostov need to score so they'll have to push on a bit in the 2nd half. Let's hope they don't succeed.

VW 1

kstand wrote:

Painful viewing. Very slow and laboured, no one trying to beat his man apart from Valencia. They are a threat on the counter, need to oput this to bed.

Even at that, Valencia is turning back a hell of a lot and not taking on the fullback.

Very disappointing, need blind off and rashford or lingard on for some pace. Three at the back is wasted when we have so much possession and they all sit back.

kstand

VW 1 wrote: »

Even at that, Valencia is turning back a hell of a lot and not taking on the fullback.

Very disappointing, need blind off and rashford or lingard on for some pace. Three at the back is wasted when we have so much possession and they all sit back.

Agree - he doesn't offer a lot on that flank. Needs a change.

adox

https://twitter.com/bbcsport/status/842480857541758976

J. Marston

Pogba hamstring gone.

Mars Bar

Well that's Pogba out of the firing line for a week or two.

Hococop

pogbas hammy gone

Liam McPoyle

A minor injury for him could be a blessing in disguise, he badly needs a break.

Hopefully its only something that lasts a week or two.

bangkok

Thats what happens when you play over 100 games in a row...

#welldonejose

J. Marston

No Ibrahimovic, Pogba or Herrera for the Boro match.

A midfield of carrick, bastian and felllaini :cool:

jayo26

bangkok wrote: »

Thats what happens when you play over 100 games in a row...

#welldonejose

Thats another lie

How Soon Is Now

We won't miss him anyway sure he might as well not be playing. Give someone else a chance who might be arsed.

bangkok

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A midfield of carrick, bastian and felllaini :cool:

Where is bastian the last few weeks? Seems to have fallen off the face of the earth

bangkok

jayo26 wrote: »

Thats another lie

Yea i know. Im drinking. I love you xx

VW 1

bangkok wrote:

Where is bastian the last few weeks? Seems to have fallen off the face of the earth

Has he even been posting his weekly Twitter/Instagram photo? Might be time to file a missing persons report!

S.M.B.

This could all go horribly wrong if we don't take one of our chances.

kstand

I'd take Mata off, not at the races.

bangkok

VW 1 wrote: »

Has he even been posting his weekly Twitter/Instagram photo? Might be time to file a missing persons report!

Seen him on a carton of milk this morning

bangkok

kstand wrote: »

I'd take Mata off, not at the races.

Think he going cheltenham tomorrow

bangkok

bangkok wrote: »

Where is bastian the last few weeks? Seems to have fallen off the face of the earth

hasnt been on twitter in over a week hope he isnt locked in some room at carrington and forgotten about

Quandary

We're in danger of blowing this aren't we

Liam McPoyle

S.M.B. wrote: »

This could all go horribly wrong if we don't take one of our chances.

That's the fear, they have had one or two chances and we could get caught on the break.

Mick is on to shore it up though.

dubmick

Yep, worrying.

Quandary

Hints of panic starting to creep into our centre backs now and Rostov with confidence building have absolutely nothing to lose.

S.M.B.

Who elbowed Blind?

4 centre backs now?

kstand

No leaders on the field, its like Bouremouth a few weeks ago, very flat, no belief, very laboured