Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2017

bangkok

astradave wrote: »

He was ****e in fairness. Something else though scoring 100 goals in Europe

****??

2 goals, nearly a hat trick, made a savage chance for marcelo, got Martinez sent off with speed and skill, if thats **** away to Bayern Munich we may as all well pack up and go home.....

The_Kew_Tour

I always laugh at people still trying to put Ronaldo down and still like he has somthing to prove.

The man has won pretty much it all and after his Euros win with his Country last summer when people laugh at us "fanboys" it always gives me chuckle.

He will go down as Greatest Bottler, Choker and Loser of all time. And that's before we mention what fat ugly guy he is.:pac:

jayo26

Watched the pogba press conference there he came across really well and handled all the usual stupid questions about his dancing and what not really well.

He seems genuinely happy long may it last and his form continue to improve

Potential Underachiever

jayo26 wrote: »

Watched the pogba press conference there he came across really well and handled all the usual stupid questions about his dancing and what not really well.

He seems genuinely happy long may it last and his form continue to improve

He's been on a steady decline has he not?

Potential Underachiever

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

He's been on a steady decline has he not?

For sure, I fully expect him to retire in the summer

fuzzydunlop85

jayo26 wrote: »

Watched the pogba press conference there he came across really well and handled all the usual stupid questions about his dancing and what not really well.

He seems genuinely happy long may it last and his form continue to improve

He's been getting worse I think as the season goes on.

M!Ck^

M!Ck^ wrote: »

For sure, I fully expect him to retire in the summer

Ridiculous talk M!Ck^, we should be aiming to get some of that transfer fee back from an MLS team. Surely he has another season or two in him before retirement, maybe I'm looking at it through red-tinted glasses though.

jayo26

fuzzydunlop85 wrote: »

He's been getting worse I think as the season goes on.

I dont think so. Maybe he aint improving on a steady scale but he is going along ok.

He plays some nice passed has great vision and has been unlucky with gosls.

His pass for rashford before the one two with ibra against Sunderland was a peach and he is doing stuff like that most games that goes in noticed because they haven't been taken advantage of.

fuzzydunlop85

jayo26 wrote: »

I dont think so. Maybe he aint improving on a steady scale but he is going along ok.

He plays some nice passed has great vision and has been unlucky with gosls.

His pass for rashford before the one two with ibra against Sunderland was a peach and he is doing stuff like that most games that goes in noticed because they haven't been taken advantage of.

Yeah I think we can all agree he has been a massive dissapointment. Hopefully with a rest over the summer and some reinforcements in midfield we can see the best of him next season. Needs to be played further up the pitch. Depressing seening him launching balls into Fellani from deep when we are chasing games.

Mantis Toboggan

Don't think Pogba is getting better or worse he's just been largely muck for most of the season with a few flashes of brilliance thrown in.

brinty

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

He's been on a steady decline has he not?

M!Ck^ wrote: »

For sure, I fully expect him to retire in the summer

yea for me Pogba is a Potential Underacheiver alright....

yabadabado

The wums are the real underachievers,gone hugely downhill over the last few seasons.

Minderbinder

I'm confused. I would say it's a fair assessment that Pogba's performances have declined as the season has gone on. Nothing remotely controversial about that.

NoviGlitzko

If Pogba played in a counter-attacking team like Chelsea or Juventus he'd flourish. The way we are playing with possession football has to change. It's not only producing an incredible lack of goals but it's blunting nearly all of our attacking players confidence, and we don't look like we have a real idea of what to do on the ball when the opposition are creating a man-made rampart in the 6 yard box. It's simply not working.

Just goes to show how important Zlatan has been this season and I was pessimistic when he joined.

bucketybuck

NoviGlitzko wrote: »

If Pogba played in a counter-attacking team like Chelsea or Juventus he'd flourish. The way we are playing with possession football has to change. It's not only producing an incredible lack of goals but it's blunting nearly all of our attacking players confidence, and we don't look like we have a real idea of what to do on the ball when the opposition are creating a man-made rampart in the 6 yard box. It's simply not working.

How do you counter attack against a man-made rampart in the 6 yard box?

NoviGlitzko

bucketybuck wrote: »

How do you counter attack against a man-made rampart in the 6 yard box?

The defensive line we lead is too high. We also don't utilise the speed of the likes of Micki, Rashers, and Martial enough as they have it. To put it simply, invite teams onto us more and use that extra energy to press. We more or less haven't moved on from the LVG way and I'm a huge fan of Jose but we have to try something different I feel. Said above was what made Jose so successful for many years.

Lord TSC

Game Day!

Never matters what form we're in, nothing like knowing there's football on tonight to help you through a long day :P

jayo26

Lord TSC wrote: »

Game Day!

Never matters what form we're in, nothing like knowing there's football on tonight to help you through a long day :P

It was so different last season.

fuzzydunlop85

Lord TSC wrote: »

Game Day!

Never matters what form we're in, nothing like knowing there's football on tonight to help you through a long day :P

Finish work at 8, straight to the pub.

TheDoc

Lord TSC wrote: »

Game Day!

Never matters what form we're in, nothing like knowing there's football on tonight to help you through a long day :P

Didn't realise the Dortmund game was pushed to yesterday, thought it would have got a week or two delay, so I was well surprised to get two matches in last night

Lord TSC

TheDoc wrote: »

Didn't realise the Dortmund game was pushed to yesterday, thought it would have got a week or two delay, so I was well surprised to get two matches in last night

I missed most of the game cause of the early kick off Shame, cause I love both Dortmund and Monaco

jayo26

How did fabinho do for Monaco last night? Anyone take note?

markc91

jayo26 wrote: »

How did fabinho do for Monaco last night? Anyone take note?

Took a shocker of a pen!

yabadabado

markc91 wrote: »

Took a shocker of a pen!

Yeah very unlike him.He had 15/15 before that.

Potential Underachiever

Minderbinder wrote: »

I'm confused. I would say it's a fair assessment that Pogba's performances have declined as the season has gone on. Nothing remotely controversial about that.

I know, it's just that because I said it then the wise guys have to get their quips in.

The_Kew_Tour

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

I know, it's just that because I said it then the wise guys have to get their quips in.

It says it all when even the Liverpool lads cant stand ya.

Potential Underachiever

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

I know, it's just that because I said it then the wise guys have to get their quips in.

Yep, pretty much.

Also, it was bs.

Liam McPoyle

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

I know, it's just that because I said it then the wise guys have to get their quips in.

Its really not.

When someone consistently posts any where on a wind up, then gets banned from a forum because of their winding up, do you really expect them to have a single ounce of credibility or that they deserve any respect?

Cos I don't.

There are a few supporters from other teams that post in here with no issues, I don't need to name names because we know who they are and they can have a conversation and get along with most. There are also others that have shown nothing but being WUMs and they are treated as such.

You fall into the latter category so don't act so bloody injured over it.

Potential Underachiever

stankratz wrote: »

Yep, pretty much.

Also, it was bs.

How was it bs? Do you think his form has improved as the season has went on, that was my original point? He's been playing awfully for months now, much derided by his own fans, some people think if he plays one good pass in a game that that's some sort of justification for his price tag. It's hardly controversial to say he has in the main been hopeless this season. A Liverpool fan saying makes it no less true than the plethora of United fans who would say the same thing and actually have already in reply to my comments.

Giggsy11

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

How was it bs? Do you think his form has improved as the season has went on, that was my original point? He's been playing awfully for months now, much derided by his own fans, some people think if he plays one good pass in a game that that's some sort of justification for his price tag. It's hardly controversial to say he has in the main been hopeless this season. A Liverpool fan saying makes it no less true than the plethora of United fans who would say the same thing and actually have already in reply to my comments.

That's nonsense. Pogba isn't playing great and for sure not awfully. There is middle ground too. He is having good season, it's like Pogba said people expect him to attack, defend and play as midfielder because of price tag. He is a midfielder and should be judged as a midfielder, not with goals scored.

Cantona's Collars

If all the screamers of shots and headers had gone in rather than hitting the woodwork then the discussion on Pogba would be a bit different.

Potential Underachiever

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Depends who comes in after Jose.

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

I keep seeing the line being trotted out about how much more free flowing the football is now Under Jose, is it really though or are yous desperately trying to clutch at something to be positive about?

Utd have played poorly in the majority of their matches for months now, looking at the GS section of the table makes for some really grim reading for a team that's playing like Brazil circa 1970, 42 compared to 60, 57, 64, 54, 56, 52 from all the other top 7 teams!

Sure you's have had a billion shots per match (Pogba) but that doesn't equate to good football as such, with so much talent in the squad and the money spent you'd have to say Jose is having a mare thus far, he might still turn it round though, the chequebook will need to come out though could cost 300-400 million.

I as a Liverpool fan thought Utd could have a sniff of winning the league this season, I definitely didn't foresee a scrap for 4th place being the main target and it has been since pretty early in the season, I'm sure most Utd fans fancied way better league form this season and must be gutted, in fact I read a few on here yesterday saying they've given up on the league and they are not angry with draws, again all very surprising to me.

I shall just roll under the bottom rope now and wait for another chair shot at a future date, ciao.

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Nope, it's tough to have a nice jersey with that hideous Chavrolet logo on it in fairness.

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

I saw loads of starting XI's on here for next season with Griezmann too, I just can't make head nor tail of it.

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

I have to say I'm confused lads, I thought Griezmann was a done deal? Was his brother not tweeting constantly about Utd?

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

I'm sure they loved him when he was their manager, much like Utd fans hated him and now love him, that's fans for you, fickle as....

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

How was it bs? Do you think his form has improved as the season has went on, that was my original point? He's been playing awfully for months now, much derided by his own fans, some people think if he plays one good pass in a game that that's some sort of justification for his price tag. It's hardly controversial to say he has in the main been hopeless this season. A Liverpool fan saying makes it no less true than the plethora of United fans who would say the same thing and actually have already in reply to my comments.

Just for fun, here's all your posts in this particular thread since it opened in that exact order, and nothing selective.

I can do the match threads if you want

It's funny that you continue to play innocent and expect to be taken seriously. I'm not falling for it

jayo26

zerks wrote: »

If all the screamers of shots and headers had gone in rather than hitting the woodwork then the discussion on Pogba would be a bit different.

if half of them even had to go in it would be a total different scenario, if even a few extra of his chances were put away it would be different.

its all ifs and buts, but i am genuinely happy enough with pogba long term. yes he could do better but he also could be luckier. The two players that pool have that even comes close to his position is lallana and henderson and i would have him in my team above any of them.

Potential Underachiever

Mick, I don't see anything wrong with any of them posts, not sure what point you're trying to make. Last thing about Pogba, he should thank me for his stock has never been higher this season now that all of a sudden I question him, I've read hundreds of post on here saying how poor he is, yet now all of a sudden he's playing brilliantly apparently.

NoviGlitzko

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Mick, I don't see anything wrong with any of them posts, not sure what point you're trying to make. Last thing about Pogba, he should thank me for his stock has never been higher this season now that all of a sudden I question him, I've read hundreds of post on here saying how poor he is, yet now all of a sudden he's playing brilliantly apparently.

Point is you coming in antagonising opposite fans for no reason. What's with the Man United obsession?

Potential Underachiever

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

How was it bs? Do you think his form has improved as the season has went on, that was my original point? He's been playing awfully for months now, much derided by his own fans, some people think if he plays one good pass in a game that that's some sort of justification for his price tag. It's hardly controversial to say he has in the main been hopeless this season. A Liverpool fan saying makes it no less true than the plethora of United fans who would say the same thing and actually have already in reply to my comments.

Basically what Rod Munch said a few posts above, and Mick supplied the evidence. And if I'm not mistaken, you're the poster who went and quoted a load of us (who never had a problem with you previously) from the thread here into a match thread to try and get a "lol, stupid United fans" response. You're fooling no-one in here with your act.

The one thing I'll add about Pogba and your assessment of him and this thread - A player blowing hot and cold, and a thread of posters debating this, is not equal to "been on a steady decline", at all.

KombuchaMshroom

Giggsy11 wrote: »

That's nonsense. Pogba isn't playing great and for sure not awfully. There is middle ground too. He is having good season, it's like Pogba said people expect him to attack, defend and play as midfielder because of price tag. He is a midfielder and should be judged as a midfielder, not with goals scored.

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Mick, I don't see anything wrong with any of them posts, not sure what point you're trying to make. Last thing about Pogba, he should thank me for his stock has never been higher this season now that all of a sudden I question him, I've read hundreds of post on here saying how poor he is, yet now all of a sudden he's playing brilliantly apparently.

You see, when you lie about the contents of comments posted not even an hour earlier, that's why you have no credibility in here.

Liam McPoyle

Who is on match thread duty?

One of the Jayos did well at the weekend so if Zerks takes the chance and we don't win then I with have the torches waiting.

yabadabado

It would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic

Lord TSC

Lads, if you think someone is trolling, then report it. Otherwise, best ignore. In the mean time, can we get back on topic?

Lithium93_

Rod Munch wrote: »

Who is on match thread duty?

One of the Jayos did well at the weekend so if Zerks takes the chance and we don't win then I with have the torches waiting.

All set up, please keep torches and pitch forks away if it backfires :pac:

Lord TSC

A Fifa Streamer played Martial. Here's his Fifa Ultimate Team.

Jayop

Rod Munch wrote: »

Who is on match thread duty?

One of the Jayos did well at the weekend so if Zerks takes the chance and we don't win then I with have the torches waiting.

Lol

Cantona's Collars

We have a new scapegoat for the match thread.:)

Lithium93_

zerks wrote: »

We have a new scapegoat for the match thread.:)

Someone else to take the proverbial bullet.

Jayop

zerks wrote: »

We have a new scapegoat for the match thread.:)

Or a new hero?

Cantona's Collars

Jayop wrote: »

Or a new hero?

We'll know by 10pm.

This is the first European game I'll get to see in ages, feck you work.:):):)

wanderer100

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/852579056847646720

JaMarcusHustle

De Gea still in the doghouse!

Trigger

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

De Gea still in the doghouse!

Jose said Romero was always gonna start the cup game.

Other than that a pretty attacking line up. Try get the game over tonight