Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2017

wanderer100

Really need that second goal. Our away form in Europe is atrocious

Mars Bar

wanderer100 wrote: »

Really need that second goal. Our away form in Europe is atrocious

Good work, sir.

GSPfan

Ha ha ha ha ha. Zlatan is a mad yoke. Jammiest goals he'll ever score.

wanderer100

wanderer100 wrote: »

Really need that second goal. Our away form in Europe is atrocious

Liam McPoyle

A third for us would be great to put the tie to bed before the second leg.

ElChe32

There ye go

Liam McPoyle

I feel like I'm repeating myself but once again, we looked a completely different team in the second half than we did in the first.

If SE had a decent forward or two we could have been losing at half time.

If we have ambitions of winning the tournament outright, we have to play for 90 minutes, there are much better teams left than SE.

Still, excellent win and surely the tie is over now.

Presumably the game has been moved to Wednesday due to the cup final.

Good chance to rest players next week and have the squad fully fit for the Saints.

duffman13

That 3rd goal is huge, it means we can potentially give everyone a week off and play a weekend side at either Blackburn or St Etienne or even both. Hopefully relatively fresh legs for the Southampton game!

Edit: By everyone I mean the 6 or 7 lads who have played right through, Herrera, Pogba, Zlatan etc

J. Marston

That was one ugly hattrick.

Jayop

Much improved there in the second half. Delighted to get that 3 goal cushion. Still wouldn't be resting everyone next week, cup final or not.

Lord TSC

Thought we were dreadful in the first half, OK up till Rashford came on and then we're very good.

Ugliest ha trick I have ever seen but don't care. That should be tie over.

Sand

Don't really care how pretty or ugly the goals were. The team got the result which has been the problem too many times. 3-0. Tie over.

Jayop

Lord TSC wrote: »

Thought we were dreadful in the first half, OK up till Rashford came on and then we're very good.

Ugliest ha trick I have ever seen but don't care. That should be tie over.

I remember a certain goonie character scoring one against us just as ugly.

sky88

Didn't get to see the match but whens the last time someone scored a hat trick

jayo26

sky88 wrote: »

Didn't get to see the match but whens the last time someone scored a hat trick

Van Persie against villa?? Or rooney last year against brugge

jambofc

add a bit of pace.....vola

spiralism

Not the prettiest but we won without ever getting out of third gear really. Happy enough with that.

Between the players rested today and in the coming games @ Blackburn and St.Etienne, we're going to be going into the league cup final pretty fresh, and with a bit of luck, injury free.

Ibra, DDG, Carrick, Valencia, Jones, Rojo should all not be seeing the pitch again until Wembley. Possibly Miki too

The_Kew_Tour

Bit lucky with goal or 2 but happy to have only played at 50% and still win.

Should really rest players now next few games

bangkok

Chalk and cheese game, first half awful and was probably down to the midfield, I'm not sure where fellaini was playing and I don't think he knew himself, rightly subbed at ht. 2nd half miles better, pogba is a joy to watch and martial on that can of form will be very hard stop. Rashford very good again when he came on

Jayop

spiralism wrote: »

Not the prettiest but we won without ever getting out of third gear really. Happy enough with that.

Between the players rested today and in the coming games @ Blackburn and St.Etienne, we're going to be going into the league cup final pretty fresh, and with a bit of luck, injury free.

Ibra, DDG, Carrick, Valencia, Jones, Rojo should all not be seeing the pitch again until Wembley. Possibly Miki too

No way does Carrick start the cup final. He's way down the pecking order rather than being rested.

RobbingBandit

Rest De Gea, Mata Mkhitaryan, Carrick Rooney for next two games start Schweinsteiger and Rashford on Sunday, Ibra as a sub if needed, Pogba too play them both on Wednesday though. Full team Sunday week for the EFL final.

bangkok

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Rest De Gea, Mata Mkhitaryan, Carrick Rooney for next two games start Schweinsteiger and Rashford on Sunday, Ibra as a sub if needed, Pogba too play them both on Wednesday though. Full team Sunday week for the EFL final.

Rooney rested? He needs games not rest, mkhitarayan will def play as well, missed nearly half the season not playing

Jayop

I'd go full ressie team for the Blackburn game and if we get beat then no biggie. The FA cup is by a distance our least important competition now and we could do without the Southampton and possible Burnley games being rescheduled. If we win with a reserve team then fair enough.

spiralism

Jayop wrote: »

No way does Carrick start the cup final. He's way down the pecking order rather than being rested.

On what basis do you reckon that? He's been a very important player for us this year

Jayop

spiralism wrote: »

On what basis do you reckon that? He's been a very important player for us this year

Really? Since the turn of the year united have played 11 games. Carrick has featured in 5. 3 in the league, 2 of which he was taken off at half time and tye other two in the cups, one of which was the loss to Hull.

Carrick is way down the pecking order and I base this on it being an absolute fact.

Robson99

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Rest De Gea, Mata Mkhitaryan, Carrick Rooney for next two games start Schweinsteiger and Rashford on Sunday, Ibra as a sub if needed, Pogba too play them both on Wednesday though. Full team Sunday week for the EFL final.

Rooney should be nowhere near the cup final starting 11 so should play the next two games

Jayop

Robson99 wrote: »

Rooney should be nowhere near the cup final starting 11 so should play the next two games

I agree with that too.

S.M.B.

That was an odd game and both exciting and worrying in equal measures.

Pogba was immense even though he should have put that chance away. Martial looked like he was enjoying himself. Bailly had the odd moment where he looked like a rock we can build our entire defence around.

At the same time I find it troubling that we really struggled for a good 15/20 minutes in the first half.

I don't think it should be dismissed as us being lazy, failing to get out of first gear or simply 'bottling' it. I also don't think it should be a stick to beat Fellaini with.

The fact is that Mourinho set his team up a certain way and it did not work. And this to me felt like the setup we would aim to use against the Chelseas and the Man Cities.

spiralism

S.M.B. wrote: »

That was an odd game and both exciting and worrying in equal measures.

Pogba was immense even though he should have put that chance away. Martial looked like he was enjoying himself. Bailly had the odd moment where he looked like a rock we can build our entire defence around.

At the same time I find it troubling that we really struggled for a good 15/20 minutes in the first half.

I don't think it should be dismissed as us being lazy, failing to get out of first gear or simply 'bottling' it. I also don't think it should be a stick to beat Fellaini with.

The fact is that Mourinho set his team up a certain way and it did not work. And this to me felt like the setup we would aim to use against the Chelseas and the Man Cities.

Perhaps not, but it has been shown time and again what happens when he plays at the base of the midfield: Our midfield ends up struggling. He just simply does not have those qualities as a midfielder. That's not saying he doesn't have a specific role. But he shouldn't be starting much from here on in.

Bringing on Lingard on for him changed the game and we looked much sharper from then on

Jayop

spiralism wrote: »

Perhaps not, but it has been shown time and again what happens when he plays at the base of the midfield: Our midfield ends up struggling

Bringing on Lingard on for him changed the game and we looked much sharper from then on

Yeah Lingards running really opened the pitch up for us.

deadybai

Best performance from Pogba since his return. He really was excellent and I was critical of him earlier in the season.

Martial needs to be playing every week . He was excellent again and a run of form will do him good.

On a side note it's sad to see no sign of Rooney tonight. His days really seemed numbered for united. I thought he has actually had a decent season bar one or two games up till now

spiralism

deadybai wrote: »

Best performance from Pogba since his return. He really was excellent and I was critical of him earlier in the season.

Martial needs to be playing every week . He was excellent again and a run of form will do him good.

On a side note it's sad to see no sign of Rooney tonight. His days really seemed numbered for united. I thought he has actually had a decent season bar one or two games up till now

I agree he's not been bad but there's no use in overstating what have largely been bit part contributions: the writing has been on the wall for some time now. Time waits for no man and there's no room for sentimentality at the highest level of football. He's had a great career for the club, won everything and will leave our top goalscorer whatever happens.

Cantona's Collars

S.M.B. wrote: »

That was an odd game and both exciting and worrying in equal measures.

Pogba was immense even though he should have put that chance away. Martial looked like he was enjoying himself. Bailly had the odd moment where he looked like a rock we can build our entire defence around.

At the same time I find it troubling that we really struggled for a good 15/20 minutes in the first half.

I don't think it should be dismissed as us being lazy, failing to get out of first gear or simply 'bottling' it. I also don't think it should be a stick to beat Fellaini with.

The fact is that Mourinho set his team up a certain way and it did not work. And this to me felt like the setup we would aim to use against the Chelseas and the Man Cities.

Jose was pretty pissed off with the teams first half performance. He said they were too relaxed and having fun in the dressing room rather than concentrating on the game.Also there wasn't enough intensity in the warm up according to his coaches.

Jayop

By the by, I read that Rashford just made his 50th appearance tonight in less than a year after making his debut.

But the tabs would have you believe he's pissed of with not getting a chance. Like, who writes this garbage?

That was a great run from Rashford for the second goal

beno619

spiralism wrote: »

Perhaps not, but it has been shown time and again what happens when he plays at the base of the midfield: Our midfield ends up struggling. He just simply does not have those qualities as a midfielder. That's not saying he doesn't have a specific role. But he shouldn't be starting much from here on in.

He didn't play at the base though, Mourinho had him all over the shop.

He has performed well in games where he's actually had a defined role in front of the defence.

Lovely Bloke

M!Ck^ wrote: »

That was a great run from Rashford for the second goal

great positioning from Zlatan too.

S.M.B.

zerks wrote: »

Jose was pretty pissed off with the teams first half performance. He said they were too relaxed and having fun in the dressing room rather than concentrating on the game.Also there wasn't enough intensity in the warm up according to his coaches.

Fair enough. Maybe there was a level of complacency that had an effect on the performance.

However, It also felt like the midfield trip weren't really aware of their roles.

Jonesy just text me
Said he's ready for the Blackburn game

Nalz

http://metro.co.uk/2017/02/17/manchester-united-legend-roy-keane-slams-paul-and-florentin-pogbas-brotherly-display-as-nonsense-6453912/

He's gonna be a right grumpy old man in 20 years

sky88

who would be everyones first choice centre back pairing.

im not really sure on it. bailiy for sure is 1st choice for me then i think its a hard choice as rojo and jones were great together and smalling hasnt really done anything wrong in a while.

dont think jones and bailiy would be a good fit together.

Liam O

sky88 wrote: »

who would be everyones first choice centre back pairing.

im not really sure on it. bailiy for sure is 1st choice for me then i think its a hard choice as rojo and jones were great together and smalling hasnt really done anything wrong in a while.

dont think jones and bailiy would be a good fit together.

Jones isn't reliable to be fit enough so I'd go Bailly and Rojo. Can both do everything and one right and one left footed.

Cantona's Collars

Had a quick look at the match thread, jaysus it's amazing how much hassle one person can cause.

Flint Fredstone

zerks wrote: »

Had a quick look at the match thread, jaysus it's amazing how much hassle one person can cause.

Rip the piss out of his nonsense and move on. It's not that hard.
People arguing with him are worse.

jayo26

zerks wrote: »

Had a quick look at the match thread, jaysus it's amazing how much hassle one person can cause.

Sorry about that I won't do the match thread anymore

Crimson King

zerks wrote: »

Had a quick look at the match thread, jaysus it's amazing how much hassle one person can cause.

And plays the 'I'm only here to chat' card all the time. He is much more subtle than the obvious ones however its still an agenda (hate that word btw).

I avoid the match threads for the most part, matches become much more enjoyable tbh

Jayop

zerks wrote: »

Had a quick look at the match thread, jaysus it's amazing how much hassle one person can cause.

Meh when we win I'll just take the piss out of him

Trigger

jayo26 wrote: »

Sorry about that I won't do the match thread anymore

Tbf we would probably still be waiting on one if you didn't

spiralism

Jayop wrote: »

Really? Since the turn of the year united have played 11 games. Carrick has featured in 5. 3 in the league, 2 of which he was taken off at half time and tye other two in the cups, one of which was the loss to Hull.

Carrick is way down the pecking order and I base this on it being an absolute fact.

Notably, carrick getting less playing time coincided with a downturn in form. When we were playing him a lot over christmas(close to every game) and winning every match, people were falling all over the place talking about his importance.

We need him tbh.

jayo26

astradave wrote: »

Tbf we would probably still be waiting on one if you didn't

Zerks would of put one up this morning