Citywest Village Launch Spring 2017

anewme

DancingHomer wrote: »

I work in Citywest so i drop down to the shopping centre regularly enough. You're either suffering from paranoid hallucinations or you're telling porkies. The shopping centre is perfectly nice, and very busy with shoppers. I've never seen gangs of youths around the shopping centre during working hours anyway, and i'd have a fairly sensitive knacker allergy.

I've stopped off at that shopping centre a few times and sorry, I agree with the other person, it's not a nice place.

Anytime I've been there (mostly evenings or weekends) there's s terrible rough crowd hanging round it.

Saw on Facebook yesterday a guy had to rescue a little lost dog from there as there were gurriers kicking it. I also had that exact same experience.

It's a nice Dunne's and Chemist and butchers but I've stopped going there in darkness as I don't like leaving the car outside.

fg1406

anewme wrote: »

I've stopped off at that shopping centre a few times and sorry, I agree with the other person, it's not a nice place.

Anytime I've been there (mostly evenings or weekends) there's s terrible rough crowd hanging round it.

Saw on Facebook yesterday a guy had to rescue a little lost dog from there as there were gurriers kicking it. I also had that exact same experience.

It's a nice Dunne's and Chemist and butchers but I've stopped going there in darkness as I don't like leaving the car outside.

It is a nice shopping centre, and badly needed for the area which is kinda like a lost suburb with estates as far as the eye can see, alongside business campuses and not much else. But you are burying your head in the sand if you think there isn’t a dodgy element around there. I wouldn’t go down there after dark, or if I did, to go to Eddie Rockets, I’d park the car outside the window so I could keep an eye on it. I lived in both saggart and citywest for a few years and commuted into town on the luas daily for maybe 4 years.
It’s nice to see more people come into the area but I’d be afraid there will be a clear divide between the haves and have nots where Citywest Village is concerned. A Beautiful gated estate with security within spitting distance of social estates with a rough element (not all social estates are bad...I grew up in one and lived there for 19 years!) but Brookview and Árd Mór aren’t exactly on the top of the most desirable places to live in Dublin.

anewme

fg1406 wrote: »

It is a nice shopping centre, and badly needed for the area which is kinda like a lost suburb with estates as far as the eye can see, alongside business campuses and not much else. But you are burying your head in the sand if you think there isn’t a dodgy element around there. I wouldn’t go down there after dark, or if I did, to go to Eddie Rockets, I’d park the car outside the window so I could keep an eye on it. I lived in both saggart and citywest for a few years and commuted into town on the luas daily for maybe 4 years.
It’s nice to see more people come into the area but I’d be afraid there will be a clear divide between the haves and have nots where Citywest Village is concerned. A Beautiful gated estate with security within spitting distance of social estates with a rough element (not all social estates are bad...I grew up in one and lived there for 19 years!) but Brookview and Árd Mór aren’t exactly on the top of the most desirable places to live in Dublin.

Totally agree.

From a council estate in west Dublin myself originally so no shrinking violet.

I also stupidly parked the car miles from the entrance as I'm concious of dings. Came back to find a load of sksngers looking in the window...

Did a stint on the Red line Luas for 3 months(left the job as the red line Luas was just not worth it)

How anyone could say that shopping centre is not rough is definintejy not aware of their surroundings.

I think those new homes are in a very unfortunate location but ppl need to make their own choices and do a bit of research. Hope it works out for them.

listermint

I must be looking into the sky or else at the ground as I've never once in my life seen any trouble in that shopping centre and never once ever seen anyone hanging around my car regardless of where I parked it day or night.

Would have frequented that Eddie rockets and O'Brien's there regularly when I was living in Dublin. thats over years since the place opened.


But apparently im oblivious to the mad Max nature of the place........

fg1406

listermint wrote: »

I must be looking into the sky or else at the ground as I've never once in my life seen any trouble in that shopping centre and never once ever seen anyone hanging around my car regardless of where I parked it day or night.

Would have frequented that Eddie rockets and O'Brien's there regularly when I was living in Dublin. thats over years since the place opened.


But apparently im oblivious to the mad Max nature of the place........

It’s not Mad Max but saying the area is quiet with little or no trouble is someone who is oblivious to the daily goings on. I’ve seen assaults on the luas stop at citywest campus and fortunestown, cars broken into at cheeverstown car park (never seen it at Red Cow for instance), saw a horrific incident where a group of tourists on their way to the hotel in saggart were racially abused by teens who got on at fortunestown. Look I could write a book on it. What happened the other night is not the norm for the area or any area for that matter but to say antisocial behaviour around Citywest doesn’t happen or is only very minor in nature is kidding themselves. Estates like McUilliam should never have been built but they have and now neighbours in the belfry, verschoyle, corbally as well as the decent folks in ard mor, Brookview and sundale have to put up with the animals that live in their neighbourhoods.

terri83

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/nine-appear-in-court-following-looting-of-dublin-supermarkets-36665826.html

April 73 wrote: »

Doubtful considering the city was pretty much on lockdown. I doubt anyone from Santry or Clonsilla were travelling to Lidl in Citywest.

I lived in Clonsilla for 4 years when I first moved in Dublin. I’ve also worked in the Citywest Business Campus so I know both areas pretty well.I know people who live there because it was handy for work but they won’t use the Luas because of messers. I wouldn’t invest €400k of my money in a house in Citywest I have to be honest.

April 73

terri83 wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/nine-appear-in-court-following-looting-of-dublin-supermarkets-36665826.html

Well they must have travelled there in snow ploughs.

xpletiv

Or stayed a couple of days in their knacker friends house which is the most likely.

Went up today. CWV looking well in the snow. Then went around the back to see the lidl. Promptly had a snowball thrown at my car, while driving, right on driver window. Think it was just snow though, nothing smashed. The lidl is in pieces, and gards there too, all fenced off. Then tried to get out the kingswood way, forced to do u-turn due to the traffic. Got back up to the CW shopping centre, another feckin snowball!

If id a hurl in my boot Id have pulled over and smashed them up. Knacker young teenagers.

Its horrible to say but they are clearly rancid areas based on what has happened last few days. I dont want my children socialising with the knacker's children in Scoil Aoife either. Im feeling a bit of buyers remorse. But the state of property in this country, we'd never afford any where else. Im embarrassed by our government not tackling the disgusting practices by developers and real estate agents to combat these massively inflated prices. And embarrased by the lack of policing in this area.

I'll very much be pushing developer to scrap the idea of the road coming out at Lidl. Keep it one way in for road. And for the security to be absolutely permanent for the estate.

listermint

fg1406 wrote: »

It’s not Mad Max but saying the area is quiet with little or no trouble is someone who is oblivious to the daily goings on. I’ve seen assaults on the luas stop at citywest campus and fortunestown, cars broken into at cheeverstown car park (never seen it at Red Cow for instance), saw a horrific incident where a group of tourists on their way to the hotel in saggart were racially abused by teens who got on at fortunestown. Look I could write a book on it. What happened the other night is not the norm for the area or any area for that matter but to say antisocial behaviour around Citywest doesn’t happen or is only very minor in nature is kidding themselves. Estates like McUilliam should never have been built but they have and now neighbours in the belfry, verschoyle, corbally as well as the decent folks in ard mor, Brookview and sundale have to put up with the animals that live in their neighbourhoods.

Just for clarity so I'm clear.

Youve never seen a car broken into in the car park that is the head office of luas with security in it versus one in the middle of nowhere right?

And you've never seen anyone racially abused in city centre Dublin?


Welcome to any capital city in Europe mate because this is what it's like.

Now I'm not saying tallaght doesn't need a new Garda station with more guards but the way your going on your swear these things are isolated to tallaght or that your comparison are valid neither of which are true.

For clarity I wouldn't live there because the houses are too small and don't like the area. But i really think there's some rose tinting that goes on when discussing crime across Dublin or greater Ireland

jayjay2010

My friend lived in Carrigmore apartments for 6 months, he had to park his car in sight as he was afraid to leave it out of sight as there were large gangs of brats hanging around the car parks.

The luas stops from saggart to belgard are just dangerous. The shopping Centre looks the part but unfortunately the crowds there are not nice whatsoever.

It’s sad, I don’t understand why those houses were built there and I don’t understand why anybody would buy them. I mean they aren’t cheap! All one can hope is that the area improves somehow.

I wonder will Lidl open up again or just shut down the store completely after this event

fg1406

listermint wrote: »

Just for clarity so I'm clear.

Youve never seen a car broken into in the car park that is the head office of luas with security in it versus one in the middle of nowhere right?

And you've never seen anyone racially abused in city centre Dublin?


Welcome to any capital city in Europe mate because this is what it's like.

Now I'm not saying tallaght doesn't need a new Garda station with more guards but the way your going on your swear these things are isolated to tallaght or that your comparison are valid neither of which are true.

For clarity I wouldn't live there because the houses are too small and don't like the area. But i really think there's some rose tinting that goes on when discussing crime across Dublin or greater Ireland

Of course but when you travel on the luas daily and 3-4 times a week you see cars with smashed windows at a park and ride, you get the idea it’s not the safest of areas to leave your car. I lived in one of the roughest neighbourhoods on the north side for 18 months and I saw and heard much worse but they weren’t selling houses for €400k there. Even now in the midst of a housing crisis you won’t get houses there for that price.

Yes racial abuse can happen in any city centre, you’re right but I wouldn’t expect it to happen from locals in a suburb 20km from the city centre.

Look I liked saggart, I understand why prices are high there. It’s only down the road from Citywest but it seems sheltered from the trouble that happens down there. I just found, between living in those 2 areas for 4 odd years that Citywest is not the middle class utopia people think it is.

Vronsky

jayjay2010 wrote: »

My friend lived in Carrigmore apartments for 6 months, he had to park his car in sight as he was afraid to leave it out of sight as there were large gangs of brats hanging around the car parks.

The luas stops from saggart to belgard are just dangerous. The shopping Centre looks the part but unfortunately the crowds there are not nice whatsoever.

It’s sad, I don’t understand why those houses were built there and I don’t understand why anybody would buy them. I mean they aren’t cheap! All one can hope is that the area improves somehow.

I wonder will Lidl open up again or just shut down the store completely after this event

I was convinced Lidl would stay closed, but then I found out that Lidl had planned to demolish the shop anyway and build a two storey one, with a separate off license. It must be a fairly profitable store.

So maybe it will open again - that said, management must be having a long think about it.

listermint

Vronsky wrote: »

I was convinced Lidl would stay closed, but then I found out that Lidl had planned to demolish the shop anyway and build a two storey one, with a separate off license. It must be a fairly profitable store.

So maybe it will open again - that said, management must be having a long think about it.

That store is 100% opening again, its far too busy to pull out over this. And the article is correct there was planning permission from over a year ago to replace the store with a larger one on the same spot.

Frankie_Jaeger

Vronsky wrote: »

I was convinced Lidl would stay closed, but then I found out that Lidl had planned to demolish the shop anyway and build a two storey one, with a separate off license. It must be a fairly profitable store.

So maybe it will open again - that said, management must be having a long think about it.

I heard the digger that was stolen and used to tear Lidl down belonged to builders working for Lidl. They were there to demolish lidl and start on the new building. The scumbags just beat them to it.

xpletiv

Insurance job by lidl? XD

Vronsky

Lidl have confirmed that they are going to go ahead and build the new store as per their planning permission.

SteM

As listermint said, that store was never going to stay shut. It's the closest discount store to citywest, they're building houses/apartments right beside it and there's a huge plot of land right across the road that more housing will probably go on to. They'd be crazy to give up that site.

Merowig

Anyone heard by when Lidl would reopen? Before Christmas?
I work in Citywest and it was handy for doing some shopping during lunch break or late afternoon.

xpletiv

No nothing in terms of dates.

In other news from developer, that road that comes out at Lidl is now set to be apartments instead, so itll be one way in and out of CWV as far as I can tell from some other comments. Thats great news

SteM

Merowig wrote: »

Anyone heard by when Lidl would reopen? Before Christmas?
I work in Citywest and it was handy for doing some shopping during lunch break or late afternoon.

Late summer according to their tweet.

https://twitter.com/lidl_ireland/status/973933195988295680?s=20

Sc1993

Just wondering if anyone has any information about the next phase in Citywest Village? Prices,
house types etc. Also I heard its over the other side of the luas, just wondering what people's thoughts on buying on this side as we love the houses but we were hoping to stay beside the business park but looks like that phase won't be until 2020.

dolallyoh

I drove the area on Sunday. Large number of corpo houses going up in brookfield just up the road. I think the bird has flown for this estate to be worth it.

Sc1993

I have been up myself a couple of times in the last few weeks and it does seem that the next phase is a stone's throw away from fourtnestown etc. However Im still open minded but it seems majority of people I speak to regarding buying up here especially in the upcoming phase think I'm completely mad.

anewme

Drove past it yesterday for the first time in months.

Very near very undesirable areas so car doors locked driving through.

How will it manage to keep skangers out without the houses being fleeced.

new corpo type houses 2 mins drive(look fairly well built in fairness )

Makes you wonder why you'd bother In this instance.


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Sc1993

And I'm also thinking there may be a connecting road coming from somewhere where the Lidl is if this was the case I would totally be swayed not to buy. The houses are gorgeous it's just a tough desicion.

Frilly Knickers

Sc1993 wrote: »

And I'm also thinking there may be a connecting road coming from somewhere where the Lidl is if this was the case I would totally be swayed not to buy. The houses are gorgeous it's just a tough desicion.

This sounds a lot like the Sundale estate in 'citywest' - lovely houses but smack bang in jobs town. The residents there are plagued by anti social behaviour from neighbouring estates.

The houses never sell for anything like what the houses actually in citywest go for and rents achieved are comparable to jobstown not citywest because of the social problems.

A mortgage is a lifelong commitment, knowingly buying a gorgeous house in a terrible area sounds like a recipe for heart break. I wouldn't.

theteal

Sc1993 wrote: »

And I'm also thinking there may be a connecting road coming from somewhere where the Lidl is if this was the case I would totally be swayed not to buy. The houses are gorgeous it's just a tough desicion.

I’m sorry, I don’t see it as a tough decision at all. A nice house in a terrible/dangerous location does not appeal in the slightest. I just don’t get the appeal, not that close to Dublin City, Luas full of scrotes, surrounding estates are dodgy as fcuk, any nice cars will need to be kept in electrified cages. How much are these?

Naas isn’t that far further out the road, much better option

Sc1993

I think some may see that as an unfair statement to make not forgetting some people on here have bought these houses and I'm sure are very happy and more than likely won't have any trouble ��. I live in a very respectable estate in south dublin and houses are constantly being broken into and cars robbed. So it can really happen anywhere. I think this phase is starting at 320,000.

zl1whqvjs75cdy

theteal wrote: »

I’m sorry, I don’t see it as a tough decision at all. A nice house in a terrible/dangerous location does not appeal in the slightest. I just don’t get the appeal, not that close to Dublin City, Luas full of scrotes, surrounding estates are dodgy as fcuk, any nice cars will need to be kept in electrified cages. How much are these?

Naas isn’t that far further out the road, much better option

I wouldn't buy in citywest but naas is ****ing miles from town, particularly the south side/baggot Street. Doing that commute now and wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy long term.

Frilly Knickers

Sc1993 wrote: »

I think some may see that as an unfair statement to make not forgetting some people on here have bought these houses and I'm sure are very happy and more than likely won't have any trouble ��. I live in a very respectable estate in south dublin and houses are constantly being broken into and cars robbed. So it can really happen anywhere. I think this phase is starting at 320,000.

LOL. How many lidls in your respectable part of South Dublin were ripped down by locals drunk driving a stolen jcb?

Car break ins 'happening anywhere' isn't a good reason to move to essentially jobstown